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The Crook-In-Chief

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
This is from USA Today:

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages...

The actions in total paint a portrait of Trump’s sprawling organization frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals, then sometimes tying them up in court and other negotiations for years. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether...
-- https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

And here's what also bothers me, namely why do we not give prison time to business owners who knowingly violate the law? If the reader of this and I go and rob a 7-11, do you think we might end up in jail? Fines alone can just be a relative slap on the wrist because for every one illegal transaction that may get caught, there may be numerous others that don't, therefore crime does pay, otherwise Trump wouldn't have kept doing this.

There's all too often a double standard in our country when the wealthy get caught versus the rest of us, and how many CEO's and business owners do we actually see going to prison for defrauding others? Very few, and yet the FBI in the past at least, theorized that there's around four rimes more money defrauded in white-collar crime versus blue-collar crime each year.

And as far as Trump is concerned, since these are not just allegations in many cases with Trump since he lost some of the law suits, we now have the Crook-In-Chief as our president, so is there any surprise why his crookedness keeps on going? Hell's bells, even a kindergarten student can connect these dots.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
This is from USA Today:

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages...

The actions in total paint a portrait of Trump’s sprawling organization frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals, then sometimes tying them up in court and other negotiations for years. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether...
-- https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

And here's what also bothers me, namely why do we not give prison time to business owners who knowingly violate the law? If the reader of this and I go and rob a 7-11, do you think we might end up in jail? Fines alone can just be a relative slap on the wrist because for every one illegal transaction that may get caught, there may be numerous others that don't, therefore crime does pay, otherwise Trump wouldn't have kept doing this.

There's all too often a double standard in our country when the wealthy get caught versus the rest of us, and how many CEO's and business owners do we actually see going to prison for defrauding others? Very few, and yet the FBI in the past at least, theorized that there's around four rimes more money defrauded in white-collar crime versus blue-collar crime each year.

And as far as Trump is concerned, since these are not just allegations in many cases with Trump since he lost some of the law suits, we now have the Crook-In-Chief as our president, so is there any surprise why his crookedness keeps on going? Hell's bells, even a kindergarten student can connect these dots.

It must really frost your flakes knowing that whatever you think about Trump, whatever you say about Trump, no matter how loud you shout your hatred of Trump you can't do one blessed thing about Trump. He will be the President of the United States for the next four years at least. Sorry.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It must really frost your flakes knowing that whatever you think about Trump, whatever you say about Trump, no matter how loud you shout your hatred of Trump you can't do one blessed thing about Trump. He will be the President of the United States for the next four years at least. Sorry.
This won't end the creation of many new threads per day
about the same topics which have been covered before.
It's important to dislike the man after what he did to she
who shall not be named. That requires regular reinforcement.
And just adding posts to an existing thread won't do.
 
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BSM1

What? Me worry?
This won't end the creation of many new threads per day
about the same topics which have been covered before.
It's important to dislike the man after what he did to she
who shall not be name. That requires regular reinforcement.
And just adding posts to an existing thread won't do.


I know. It's fun to watch them squirm.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
This won't end the creation of many new threads per day
about the same topics which have been covered before.

In all likelihood. Unfortunately, there will be no shortage of new topics either.

It's important to dislike the man after what he did to she who shall not be name. That requires regular reinforcement.
And just adding posts to an existing thread won't do.

Then again, there is the not-inconsequential matter of the merits (so to speak) of Trump himself...
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
You're in Texas in May, 2017, and there is chaos everywhere around you caused by recent flooding there. You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper, caught in the middle of this great disaster. The situation is overwhelming, and you're trying to shoot career-making photos, as houses and people swirl in the great vortex around you, some disappearing under the water.

Then you see a man in the water fighting for his life, trying not to be swept away with the debris by the raging current.

You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar. Suddenly, you know who it is - Donald Trump! At the same time you notice that the swirling waters are about to take him under, forever

You have two options. You can save him, or you can take the most dramatic photos of your career. You can save Trump's life, or you can shoot a sure Pulitzer Prize winning photo of him dying.

Here's the dilemma: Color, or would you rather go with the classic simplicity and aesthetic value of black and white?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This is from USA Today:

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages...

The actions in total paint a portrait of Trump’s sprawling organization frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals, then sometimes tying them up in court and other negotiations for years. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether...
-- https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

And here's what also bothers me, namely why do we not give prison time to business owners who knowingly violate the law? If the reader of this and I go and rob a 7-11, do you think we might end up in jail? Fines alone can just be a relative slap on the wrist because for every one illegal transaction that may get caught, there may be numerous others that don't, therefore crime does pay, otherwise Trump wouldn't have kept doing this.

There's all too often a double standard in our country when the wealthy get caught versus the rest of us, and how many CEO's and business owners do we actually see going to prison for defrauding others? Very few, and yet the FBI in the past at least, theorized that there's around four rimes more money defrauded in white-collar crime versus blue-collar crime each year.

And as far as Trump is concerned, since these are not just allegations in many cases with Trump since he lost some of the law suits, we now have the Crook-In-Chief as our president, so is there any surprise why his crookedness keeps on going? Hell's bells, even a kindergarten student can connect these dots.
Hillary is a lawyer. Hire her.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This sordid record was known before the election but the media chose to basically ignore it in favor of a non-story which they hyped and hyped and hyped and hyped and hyped.

Now he's wrecking America.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
You're in Texas in May, 2017, and there is chaos everywhere around you caused by recent flooding there. You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper, caught in the middle of this great disaster. The situation is overwhelming, and you're trying to shoot career-making photos, as houses and people swirl in the great vortex around you, some disappearing under the water.

Then you see a man in the water fighting for his life, trying not to be swept away with the debris by the raging current.

You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar. Suddenly, you know who it is - Donald Trump! At the same time you notice that the swirling waters are about to take him under, forever

You have two options. You can save him, or you can take the most dramatic photos of your career. You can save Trump's life, or you can shoot a sure Pulitzer Prize winning photo of him dying.

Here's the dilemma: Color, or would you rather go with the classic simplicity and aesthetic value of black and white?


May the situation never be reversed.
 
There's all too often a double standard in our country when the wealthy get caught versus the rest of us, and how many CEO's and business owners do we actually see going to prison for defrauding others? Very few, and yet the FBI in the past at least, theorized that there's around four rimes more money defrauded in white-collar crime versus blue-collar crime each year.

Major banks are the worst violators. The standard 'punishment' is that they pay a bribe fine to make it go away. Usually less than they have profited from illegal activity too.

It's sort of like a burglar avoiding punishment by saying 'I'll give the TV and camera back, but I get to keep the laptop myself'.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It must really frost your flakes knowing that whatever you think about Trump, whatever you say about Trump, no matter how loud you shout your hatred of Trump you can't do one blessed thing about Trump. He will be the President of the United States for the next four years at least. Sorry.

Being well informed about the president seems to be a liberal goal that's largely incomprehensible to you conservatives, since you see it as so useless.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
This won't end the creation of many new threads per day
about the same topics which have been covered before.
It's important to dislike the man after what he did to she
who shall not be name. That requires regular reinforcement.
And just adding posts to an existing thread won't do.

Yes, I do believe that being well informed probably never crossed your mind as a possible motive for all those threads since being well informed does not seem important to you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes, I do believe that being well informed probably never crossed your mind as a possible motive for all those threads since being well informed does not seem important to you.
Being well informed is a great thing.
But is that the motive for creating so many?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Major banks are the worst violators. The standard 'punishment' is that they pay a bribe fine to make it go away. Usually less than they have profited from illegal activity too.

It's sort of like a burglar avoiding punishment by saying 'I'll give the TV and camera back, but I get to keep the laptop myself'.
It can be even worse than mere paying of a fine.
Sometimes the taxpayers end up owning the bank, eg, RBS.

Oddly, once government takes'm over, they continue some bad behavior, eg, RBS.
 
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