The Crook-In-Chief

[Jeremiahcp]

Being well informed is a great thing.
But is that the motive for creating so many?

No one is forcing you to read and/or reply to any of these threads, and no one is breaking any rules by posting these threads. So maybe you should just get over it and accept the fact that Trump is a very unpopular president.

 

[metis]

I would agree with this statement. Yet, the alternative, IMO, was catastrophic as she should have been in prison multiple times already.

On which charges, and how do you supposedly know she was guilty of anything? Bad judgement at several intervals, yes, and I was very critical of her on several occasions and planned on voting 3rd party until it was obvious things could be very close.

The dishonesty of Trump was well established before the election, and his bragging about his sexual prowess that included adultery, his use of name-calling, his saying "lock her up!" that violates the tone of the Constitution, etc., etc., should have been more than enough red-flags.

I've known you for quite a while now, and I know you're a moral person, but what Trump repeatedly has said and done is very far removed from the kind of person you are-- thankfully!

We all make mistakes, and I can accept that, but what I cannot accept are people who are still defending the man after all that he has said and done even just since he's been president. As Gandhi said "To cooperate with evil is evil", and so many things that Trump has said and done fit into that paradigm all too well.

 

[metis]

And what is in YOUR closet!

Clothes.

 

[BSM1]

I wouldn't be betting your house on that if I was you, plus I would think anyone who has a problem with serious and maybe even treasonous crimes would not be supporting Trump.

Proof, my friend. Aye, there's the rub...

 

[BSM1]

For some reason I don't find dishonesty to be "fun".

Then you are sorely missing the point.

 

[BSM1]

Being well informed about the president seems to be a liberal goal that's largely incomprehensible to you conservatives, since you see it as so useless.

This, for the most part, is not information about the President, it's innuendo and wishful thinking. On the one hand many, if not most, left-wingers state that The Donald is an idiot and a buffoon. However, it seems he's smart enough to hide a lifetime of felonious endeavors.

 

[suncowiam]

It must really frost your flakes knowing that whatever you think about Trump, whatever you say about Trump, no matter how loud you shout your hatred of Trump you can't do one blessed thing about Trump. He will be the President of the United States for the next four years at least. Sorry.

This won't end the creation of many new threads per day
about the same topics which have been covered before.
It's important to dislike the man after what he did to she
who shall not be name. That requires regular reinforcement.
And just adding posts to an existing thread won't do.

Are there any logical associations with Hillary and the election concerning the OP?

Admittedly, there are many anti-Trump posts. Question is... So what? What does that imply?

Where are the pro-Trump threads? The supporters here have every right to do so. No one is censoring Trump threads. Or at least that I'm not aware of.

 

[Revoltingest]

No one is forcing you to read and/or reply to any of these threads, and no one is breaking any rules by posting these threads. So maybe you should just get over it and accept the fact that Trump is a very unpopular president.

Someone says Trump is popular?
You must associate with a very different crowd.
He didn't even win a majority or the popular vote...
...& it seems to have gone downhill from there.

 

[tytlyf]

...& it seems to have gone downhill from there.

That was predictable 20 years ago.

 

[Revoltingest]

Are there any logical associations with Hillary and the election concerning the OP?

Yes...goes to motive for repititious threads & starting new ones rather than posting in existing ones.

Admittedly, there are many anti-Trump posts. Question is... So what? What does that imply?
Where are the pro-Trump threads? The supporters here have every right to do so. No one is censoring Trump threads. Or at least that I'm not aware of.

Good questions.
I imagine several reasons we might not see many.....
- Trump had more voters than supporters.
To voters who aren't supporters, once the election ended, he's just this juggernaut set in motion.
- Trump hasn't accomplished much (good or bad) yet.
- Few Trump voters or supporters think his behavior is more "Trump" than worthy of praise.
- Negativity tends to inspire thread creation more than positivity.

How do you think we should use the information in the OP?
(Some favor impeachment, & would prefer that Pence be in
charge. I don't see that as an improvement.)

 

[suncowiam]

Yes...goes to motive for repititious threads & starting new ones rather than posting in existing ones.

Good questions.
I imagine several reasons we might not see many.....
- Trump had more voters than supporters.
To voters who aren't supporters, once the election ended, he's just this juggernaut set in motion.
- Trump hasn't accomplished much (good or bad) yet.
- Few Trump voters or supporters think his behavior is more "Trump" than worthy of praise.
- Negativity tends to inspire thread creation more than positivity.

How do you think we should use the information in the OP?
(Some favor impeachment, & would prefer that Pence be in
charge. I don't see that as an improvement.)

Actually, good point with redundant threads. That needs to get cleaned up.

I was going to make a thread to suggest that we should pick our battles better and not stress every little thing. The important stuff gets lost in all the shuffling.

I think you're right, people that defend Trump is defending more their ideologies than they are actually defending Trump the person.

 

[Revoltingest]

Actually, good point with redundant threads. That needs to get cleaned up.

I was going to make a thread to suggest that we should pick our battles better and not stress every little thing. The important stuff gets lost in all the shuffling.

I think you're right, people that defend Trump is defending more their ideologies than they are actually defending Trump the person.

I'm also doing my part by bringing up the redundancy & pettiness in few threads.
I know....I know....it might seem otherwise, but this is me being restrained.

 

[Kenny]

On which charges, and how do you supposedly know she was guilty of anything? Bad judgement at several intervals, yes, and I was very critical of her on several occasions and planned on voting 3rd party until it was obvious things could be very close.

The dishonesty of Trump was well established before the election, and his bragging about his sexual prowess that included adultery, his use of name-calling, his saying "lock her up!" that violates the tone of the Constitution, etc., etc., should have been more than enough red-flags.

I've known you for quite a while now, and I know you're a moral person, but what Trump repeatedly has said and done is very far removed from the kind of person you are-- thankfully!

We all make mistakes, and I can accept that, but what I cannot accept are people who are still defending the man after all that he has said and done even just since he's been president. As Gandhi said "To cooperate with evil is evil", and so many things that Trump has said and done fit into that paradigm all too well.

I'm not defending anyone... wrong is wrong and especially when power made what is wrong-- right whether current or past.

As for Clinton:

Secretary of State favors for contributions
Lying about Benghazi
The creating her own server knowing that it was against the law and the rest of her digital errors.
A litany of others.

I am agreeing with your point that wrong is wrong no matter who does it. It is a shame that lady justice is not a blind judge.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Someone says Trump is popular?
You must associate with a very different crowd.
He didn't even win a majority or the popular vote...
...& it seems to have gone downhill from there.

People are going to talk about an unpopular president more than a popular one.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

People are going to talk about an unpopular president more than a popular one.

You're ^ above ^ post about an 'unpopular president being talked about more than a popular one' makes me think that to Christians Jesus is their President (Hail to the Chief !) because Jesus is Head of the Christian congregation, and Jesus is talked about more than a popular person in office, although Jesus' office is that he is in the position of being King of God's Kingdom government for a thousand years.

 

[Mindmaster]

This won't end the creation of many new threads per day
about the same topics which have been covered before.
It's important to dislike the man after what he did to she
who shall not be name. That requires regular reinforcement.
And just adding posts to an existing thread won't do.

At this point, I simply cannot tell whether it is the Backfire Effect or Stockholm Syndrome at play. Honestly, I've given up responding to most of these threads because the people who post them aren't interested in anything but buttressing up their confirmation biases for another round of Trump-hate. It's one thing to be a loser, certainly another to be a sore loser. This stuff is just really petty at this point, and lacks any importance whatsoever.

 

[Revoltingest]

At this point, I simply cannot tell whether it is the Backfire Effect or Stockholm Syndrome at play. Honestly, I've given up responding to most of these threads because the people who post them aren't interested in anything but buttressing up their confirmation biases for another round of Trump-hate. It's one thing to be a loser, certainly another to be a sore loser.

Well, perhaps it can become something positive, ie, acting on the info posted.

 

[Mindmaster]

Well, perhaps it can become something positive, ie, acting on the info posted.

It generally is redundant to attempt convince someone that such lawsuits are commonplace among billion dollar businesses. Business owners are liable for things their employees are doing wrong, so when it comes time to pay (lawsuits) they have to. It doesn't indicate ANYTHING on Trump's part, because his operation is just too large to micro-manage - much of it falls on subordinates, but why put any logic to it? In essence, that's what we're dealing with - a bunch of people who think Trump's businesses are run like a mom and pop dollar store because they lack perspective. I'll simplify it for those who lack the processing power internally: when someone WANTS you to think something, it has little to do with what that thing actually is. It's propaganda... So if people want you to think Trump is a womanizer, a tax evader, a douche, or anything else the first question to ask is... Why do they want you to think that? Or, what do they gain if you do feel that way? That's when people are manipulating you for their own ends. If the Dems have the right message, and the liberals are right, why are they so busy attempting to mind control their own people? Evil is easy to find - it's right in front of your face, not sneaking around in dark corners.

 

[Revoltingest]

It generally is redundant to attempt convince someone that such lawsuits are commonplace among billion dollar businesses. Business owners are liable for things their employees are doing wrong, so when it comes time to pay (lawsuits) they have to. It doesn't indicate ANYTHING on Trump's part, because his operation is just too large to micro-manage - much of it falls on subordinates, but why put any logic to it? In essence, that's what we're dealing with - a bunch of people who think Trump's businesses are run like a mom and pop dollar store because they lack perspective. I'll simplify it for those who lack the processing power internally: when someone WANTS you to think something, it has little to do with what that thing actually is. It's propaganda... So if people want you to think Trump is a womanizer, a tax evader, a douche, or anything else the first question to ask is... Why do they want you to think that? Or, what do they gain if you do feel that way? That's when people are manipulating you for their own ends. If the Dems have the right message, and the liberals are right, why are they so busy attempting to mind control their own people? Evil is easy to find -i t's right in front of your face, not sneaking around in dark corners.

I've pointed out something more specific, ie, that if one is a residential landlord with enuf experience,
Fair Housing suits will be endured. Doesn't matter if one never commits a violation...one will be sued.
So the existence of suits means nothing. Critics should examine the suit in detail. Note also that
settling doesn't tell much either, since many landlords will settle them because it's cheaper than
winning. I don't settle....& it does cost more. But I once had a client derect me to pay the suer $400 to
make a $1,000,000+ suit go away. Prolly could'a won it for less than $100,000 back then.

 

[metis]

Proof, my friend. Aye, there's the rub...

"Proof" of what? What I posted in the OP contains proof of Trump's previous wrongdoings because of fines he has had to pay that are not just allegations. As far as what's going on now, I haven't made any judgments.

Then you are sorely missing the point.

Did you ever stop and think that maybe it could have been your wording-- or whatever? Either way, I certainly would not say that this general topic is "fun"-- this is rather serious stuff, and I believe it should be treated as such, imo. .

 

[metis]

I'm not defending anyone... wrong is wrong and especially when power made what is wrong-- right whether current or past.

Then I'm glad we're on the same page.

As for Clinton:

Secretary of State favors for contributions

Allegations that have not been established, thus no fines or any other legal actions against the Clinton's have been announced. The issue of "pay to play" is not at all unheard of when it comes to charities, and only some of it may be illegal. So far at least, no smoking gun.

Lying about Benghazi

There have been roughly 10 investigations with no wrongdoing being evident. And if lying is important to you, and I know that it is, do you honestly think that she has lied more the Trump, who even Graham and Jindal have called a "pathological liar"-- their words, not mine. Also, he constantly contradicts himself, and how much of that is ignorance and how much is lying I simply cannot say.

The creating her own server knowing that it was against the law and the rest of her digital errors.

Comey, a Republican, says that he feels it was more of a call of bad judgment versus being a prosecutable offense. Also, she heavily payed the price as I do think it's likely that this was the number one reason why she lost the election, although there's many other self-inflicted mistakes she made as well.

She ran a terrible campaign, and the only reason I mourn for her loss is because Trump is now our president, and it's one scandal after another. Matter of fact, the t.v. series "Scandal" has decided to drop Kerry Washington and the rest of the cast and just cover news on Trump's administration.

A litany of others.

Such as...?