The Devil allows freedom of all false religions but not the true one.

[TagliatelliMonster]

You rely on a website that is not simply anti-Israel, but is anti-Jewish as well?

Whatever regard I might have had for you just got flushed down the toilet.

I didn't even click around on the site until I read your post.

And omg....

Not only anti-jewish... anti-many things it seems.
Racist, anti-LBGT, anti-vaccine, anti-west-in-general, ...

In summary:
anti-tolerance and anti-intelligence

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If you didn't know this view I had, now you know. I believe supporting Israel is evil because they are oppressors.

So which oppressors do you do support?

 

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I never been on the site, till, this incident. I just quoted it as a source because I saw in it another thread.

 

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But as a Muslim, by definition, we don't support Homosexual behavior or bi-sexual or gender confusion etc.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Learn something about what government is supposed to be, purpose, and human rights. You talk about freedom of speech, except, when propaganda begins to defeat you, you get desperate and go all out to squash it.

You forfeit your right to talk about human rights when you roam anti-human-right websites like the one you linked, dude.

Also... hate speech and terrorist propaganda = not covered by "freedom of speech".

It seems you are confusing "freedom" with "anarchy" or similar.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

There is extreme secularism too

lol...
Care to explain what that looks like?

But all this has nothing to do with that, your devilish government is getting desperate against us Shiites. We beating them bad in propaganda.

At least you acknowledge that it concerns propaganda. I guess that's something.

 

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You forfeit your right to talk about human rights when you roam anti-human-right websites like the one you linked, dude.

Also... hate speech and terrorist propaganda = not covered by "freedom of speech".

It seems you are confusing "freedom" with "anarchy" or similar.

Then you should just go on and forbid Quran by the way you define "hate speech" and "terrorist" and "propaganda". Some Dutch politicians were saying this about Quran, some of the very people doing it ended up becoming Muslim after studying and trying to prove their case.

 

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lol...
Care to explain what that looks like?

Sure, France forbidding Hijaab and as well, when countries try to force secularism on other societies and don't let them practice their religion in government. Both are extremists.

 

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We will eventually replace all governments with an Islamic one. This is going to happen. This is because Quran doesn't allow you to believe in authority other then God's.

And the nature of humans is to take God as their King and his anointed guides as kings, and be ruled by his legislation. This is our faith. If you can't handle it might as well forbid Quran because it's a direct threat to all governments built on falsehood, deception, and borders they have no right to claim and is built on oppressive history.

No one is saying we will force this, but, people have the right to believe in this and accept it, and if they do and form majority, they have the right to implement their faith.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You guys want to mix everyone up that resists you. You support Al-Nusra which was a violent group linked to Al-Qaeeda which was linked to ISIS. And when Russia and Iran - more Iran, defeated ISIS, you killed Qasim Sulaimani the main man who did it.

You guys are going to lose - even if has to be the Mahdi coming out and God destroying your civilization in the same way Noah's people were destroyed. But your propaganda is dying, even your favorite word "terrorist" is losing it's appeal.

This is why you getting desperate.

You really do live in your own little world of make-belief, do you?

Al-Nusra Front - Wikipedia

The group formed in 2012.
The US put it on a terrorist list in december that same year.

You should be a bit more picky concerning your news sources.
If the one you linked in the OP sets the standard to what kind of "news" sites you frequent, then no wonder you will walk away so uninformed. Or rather: malinformed.

 

[McBell]

We will eventually replace all governments with an Islamic one. This is going to happen. This is because Quran doesn't allow you to believe in authority other then God's.

Well, it will not happen in my life time.
And I seriously doubt it will ever happen.

But you are free to believe whatever you like.

 

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You really do live in your own little world of make-belief, do you?

Al-Nusra Front - Wikipedia

The group formed in 2012.
The US put it on a terrorist list in december that same year.

You should be a bit more picky concerning your news sources.
If the one you linked in the OP sets the standard to what kind of "news" sites you frequent, then no wonder you will walk away so uninformed. Or rather: malinformed.

Nah, I don't pick my new sources just by deceivers. Al-Nusra was trained and armed by the Obama government. I will make a thread proving all this.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

There is battle between good and evil, one side will be in heaven and the other in hell.

And such simplistic, faith based, barbaric black and white thinking is only going to ensure that conflict continues.

 

[McBell]

No one is saying we will force this,

except that by force is the only way it will happen.

 

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And such simplistic, faith based, barbaric black and white thinking is only going to ensure that conflict continues.

Or it's the only way to end it, no more confusion, mental clarity, and taking side of the truthful.

 

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except that by force is the only way it will happen.

Rather, force is going to try to stop it, but it will happen despite that.

 

[McBell]

Rather, force is going to try to stop it, but it will happen despite that.

yeah, cause Muslims are world renown for their peaceful take overs.....

In case you missed it, that was sarcasm

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You gave the green light to Saudi Arabia and disbelievers go to hell forever for these type of reasons. They can't keep a live and let live attitude, they have to oppress believers.

SA are "disbelievers"?

Owkay then....

No true scottsman, much?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

America buys other countries' "equipment". Even if someone was fanatic enough to not use them, sooner or later their favorite website or app or product is bougth by the US. The question is, why? Why do they buy these things?

Too stupid or lazy to make it themselves?

 

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yeah, cause Muslims are world renown for their peaceful take overs.....

In case you missed it, that was sarcasm

Some of the very people who ruled us had sex with monkeys (Yazid did this for example) and didn't have any fear of God. This was the people conquering lands and causing wars.

We never a had a true theocracy since Imam Hassan (a) had to do a treaty with Mauwiya till the revolution of Iran. Iran is also a theocracy but it's imperfect, it doesn't mean the clerics there have interpreted Islam correctly.

And the interpretation and changing people mind's about human rights, is essential, for us to implement a just Islamic government.

In the hadiths you will find for every x teaching in hadiths, there is negation of x in some other hadith. Nothing is there without the negation.

The Quran is to be interpreted with help of ahadith but not at the mercy of them. And ilmel rijaal has been proven in time, to be conjecture, and not knowledge of people. Quran also showed reputation is unreliable and so this to me is no suprise.

We did wrong through out history, and still have not interpreted Islam correctly. But we still have right to try do so, and to try to implement government with our best interpretation of Islam that we know.