The Devine Light in the Electromagnetic Universe

[Native]

No, actually, he simply misunderstand what the consensus science says.

I just conclude that:

You prefer to hold onto an old *occult agency* which cannot be explained dynamically and ignore an explanation which can be explained dynamically and logically - even with your belowed math.

You´re frequently asking for mathematical calculations and when you get lots of these, you´re STILL in automatic denial mode.

 

[Clara Tea]

Abstract:
For my fellow debaters here, It should not come to any surprise, that I go all in for a modern interpretation of the Ancient Myths of Creation and take their prime *deities* of Light as in an Electric Universe.

Of course I´m not alone in this perception as several Independent Thinkers always are asking questions to standing theories and their ancient dogmas.

I want to introduce you all for such an excellent example here:

Mahmoud E. Yousif
External Magnetic Field Propulsion Systems (ExMF-PS) Foundation · Independent Researcher
Diploma in Electronics.

His articles:
(PDF) Newtons Gravitation Law is Wrong | Mahmoud E . Yousif - Academia.edu

(PDF) The Hydrostatic Force (F_H) of Gravity (The Atmospheric Force of Gravity) | Mahmoud E . Yousif - Academia.edu

(PDF) The Unified Force of Nature: 1-The Electric & Magnetic Forces | Mahmoud E . Yousif - Academia.edu

(PDF) The Grand Unification: 2-The Nuclear (F_N ) and Weak (F_W ) Forces | Mahmoud E . Yousif - Academia.edu

For those of you who cannot take in *oral* philosophical explanations by plain words and sentenses, I´m happy to say, that the articles contains lots of *mathematical number acrobatics* as well. Enjoy!

And your comments to these articles are?

Edit: REMEMBER to have an independent thinker approach before replying.

Souls don't use electromagnetism (light is one form). If they did, they wouldn't transcend time.

 

[Native]

Souls don't use electromagnetism (light is one form). If they did, they wouldn't transcend time.

*Time* doesn´t excist at all.

 

[Native]

How does *Newton´s Occult Force* manage to pull more or less on the Earth´s surface?

Googling *gravity anomalies* provides Ca. 4.470.000 results. Not excactly very comforting for the dogmatic *gravitationalists*.

"There Are A Lot of Gravitational Anomalies on Earth" AND: It´s even *TIME* dependent!? (Timestamp 2:30) How does *gravity* know what time it is and when to change it´s force?

*Gravity* compared to the Atmospheric Pressure:

Atmospheric pressure, also known as barometric pressure (after the barometer), is the pressure within the atmosphere of Earth. The standard atmosphere (symbol: atm) is a unit of pressure defined as 101,325 Pa (1,013.25 hPa; 1,013.25 mbar), which is equivalent to 760 mm Hg, 29.9212 inches Hg, or 14.696 psi.[1] The atm unit is roughly equivalent to the mean sea-level atmospheric pressure on Earth, that is, the Earth's atmospheric pressure at sea level is approximately 1 atm.

In most circumstances, atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by the # 1. hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point. As elevation increases, there is less overlying atmospheric mass, so that atmospheric pressure decreases with increasing elevation. Pressure measures force per unit area, with SI units of Pascals (1 pascal = 1 newton per square metre, 1 N/m2). On average, a column of air with a cross-sectional area of 1 square centimetre (cm2), measured from mean (average) sea level to the top of Earth's atmosphere, has a mass of about 1.03 kilogram and exerts a force or "weight" of about 10.1 newtons, resulting in a pressure of 10.1 N/cm2 or 101 kN/m2 (101 kilopascals, kPa). A column of air with a cross-sectional area of 1 in2 would have a weight of about 14.7 lbf, resulting in a pressure of 14.7 lbf/in2.

The bolded and larger font is noticed to the information and (dis)honour for Polymath257 who ridicules me when I´m referring to this scientific subject.

# 1. Hydrostatic Pressure:
(PDF) The Hydrostatic Force (F_H) of Gravity (The Atmospheric Force of Gravity) | Mahmoud E . Yousif - Academia.edu

Hurricane formation, motion and pressure.
Tropical cyclones are like giant engines that use warm, moist air as fuel. That is why they form only over warm ocean waters near the equator. The warm, moist air over the ocean rises upward from near the surface. Because this air moves up and away from the surface, there is less air left near the surface. Another way to say the same thing is that the warm air rises, causing an area of lower air pressure below.

 

[wellwisher]

The first article is a bit redundant. Newton's gravitational law is indeed false. It has been replaced almost a 100 years ago by Eisntein general relativity though Newton's calculous is still quite useful to calculate and predict the movement of stars.

If you look at a star, Einstein theory of General Relativity; GR, says that the mass of the star, via GR, will cause local space-time to contract, with this contraction of space-time maximized at the center of the star.

However, the center of the star, where nuclear fusion occurs, shows states of matter and energy, with the fastest frequencies; fusion and gamma. In other words, although clock time slows in the core, the material time expressions; frequency, speeds up in the core. Newtonian is able to take this particle time vector into account, while GR cannot. This second time vector is connected to pressure and material phase transitions where matter rearranges itself in time and space.

Acceleration due to any force, and due to gravity in particular, is d/t/t. This is one part distance and two parts time. Newtonian and Einsteinian each take into account one of the two opposing time vectors; space-time slows, and matter/energy speeds up.

The question becomes, what would happen if we use only GR to explain distant observations in space, that really have a connection to the second or particle based time vector, that is not based on GR? For example, a massive star will become hotter than a less massive star. As such, its average material frequencies will increase, even though we will assume that a red shift will occur due to GR. The result is the mass will be overestimated.

 

[Native]

Now we need a dark matter bandaid.

Shouldn´t that be: Yet another dark bandaid

 

[Polymath257]

I just conclude that:

You prefer to hold onto an old *occult agency* which cannot be explained dynamically and ignore an explanation which can be explained dynamically and logically - even with your belowed math.

You´re frequently asking for mathematical calculations and when you get lots of these, you´re STILL in automatic denial mode.

When the calculations are garbage, they don't help anything. The papers you linked to are worthless: they show basic misunderstandings about things that are easily tested and simply don't work the way the papers claim.

The calculations themselves show a complete lack of understanding of the basics: from not understanding significant decimal places (getting over 10 decimal places from data having only 2 or 3), to not understanding that air pressure works on ALL sides, not just on the top, to eliminating the gravitational constant in place of dynamic variables unrelated to the situation being modeled, the papers you gave a full of basic mistakes and misunderstandings of simple material.

Well, you found your 'maverick mathematician' and got the quality you asked for.

 

[Polymath257]

How does *Newton´s Occult Force* manage to pull more or less on the Earth´s surface?

Googling *gravity anomalies* provides Ca. 4.470.000 results. Not excactly very comforting for the dogmatic *gravitationalists*.

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Did you bother to look at the caption? Those anomalies are in millgals. A milligal is 1/000 cm per sec^2. That is compared to the 980 cm per sec^2 for the main part of the acceleration.

"There Are A Lot of Gravitational Anomalies on Earth" AND: It´s even *TIME* dependent!? (Timestamp 2:30) How does *gravity* know what time it is and when to change it´s force?

Because the mass upon which it depends isn't distributed evenly. It moves around.

*Gravity* compared to the Atmospheric Pressure:

Atmospheric pressure, also known as barometric pressure (after the barometer), is the pressure within the atmosphere of Earth. The standard atmosphere (symbol: atm) is a unit of pressure defined as 101,325 Pa (1,013.25 hPa; 1,013.25 mbar), which is equivalent to 760 mm Hg, 29.9212 inches Hg, or 14.696 psi.[1] The atm unit is roughly equivalent to the mean sea-level atmospheric pressure on Earth, that is, the Earth's atmospheric pressure at sea level is approximately 1 atm.

In most circumstances, atmospheric pressure is closely approximated by the # 1. hydrostatic pressure caused by the weight of air above the measurement point. As elevation increases, there is less overlying atmospheric mass, so that atmospheric pressure decreases with increasing elevation. Pressure measures force per unit area, with SI units of Pascals (1 pascal = 1 newton per square metre, 1 N/m2). On average, a column of air with a cross-sectional area of 1 square centimetre (cm2), measured from mean (average) sea level to the top of Earth's atmosphere, has a mass of about 1.03 kilogram and exerts a force or "weight" of about 10.1 newtons, resulting in a pressure of 10.1 N/cm2 or 101 kN/m2 (101 kilopascals, kPa). A column of air with a cross-sectional area of 1 in2 would have a weight of about 14.7 lbf, resulting in a pressure of 14.7 lbf/in2.

The bolded and larger font is noticed to the information and (dis)honour for Polymath257 who ridicules me when I´m referring to this scientific subject.

# 1. Hydrostatic Pressure:
(PDF) The Hydrostatic Force (F_H) of Gravity (The Atmospheric Force of Gravity) | Mahmoud E . Yousif - Academia.edu

Hurricane formation, motion and pressure.
Tropical cyclones are like giant engines that use warm, moist air as fuel. That is why they form only over warm ocean waters near the equator. The warm, moist air over the ocean rises upward from near the surface. Because this air moves up and away from the surface, there is less air left near the surface. Another way to say the same thing is that the warm air rises, causing an area of lower air pressure below.

Yes, I understand about atmospheric pressure. What you quoted above is correct. What is in the paper is not. The paper shows basic misunderstandings of how fluid pressure works.

 

[Native]

Yes, I understand about atmospheric pressure. What you quoted above is correct. What is in the paper is not. The paper shows basic misunderstandings of how fluid pressure works.

We´re not dealing with some fluids in your bathtub. Maybe you should extend your *fluid* perceptions to the relevant subject of Hydrostatic Force in the Atmospheric Pressure? .

Well, you found your 'maverick mathematician' and got the quality you asked for.

Whic is much better than you ever have provided for with your hopeless concensus dogmatics.

 

[Native]

Because the mass upon which it depends isn't distributed evenly. It moves around.

What? *Gravity* is (time) dependent of masses which moves around on the Earth?

You should feel very lucky that your philosophical and logical skills aren´t in your ways when postulating such nonsense.

 

[Polymath257]

What? *Gravity* is (time) dependent of masses which moves around on the Earth?

Yes, the force of gravity is produced by mass. You really didn't know this?

You should feel very lucky that your philosophical and logical skills aren´t in your ways when postulating such nonsense.

Do you agree that mass moves? We can measure the effects of weather on the rotation of the Earth. We can measure the differences in gravity because mountains tend to be less dense than the Earth as a whole. These aren't philosophical positions, but actual facts that we can measure. And those facts agree with the model of gravity Newton (later modified by Einstein) proposed.

 

[Polymath257]

We´re not dealing with some fluids in your bathtub. Maybe you should extend your *fluid* perceptions to the relevant subject of Hydrostatic Force in the Atmospheric Pressure? .
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Once again, getting so many decimal places out of that data ALREADY shows incompetence. Not understanding the basics (as shown in the equations mentioned) just substantiates that.

Whic is much better than you ever have provided for with your hopeless concensus dogmatics.

When you collect your Nobel Prize, we will all agree we were wrong. Don't hold your breath.

 

[Native]

Do you agree that mass moves? We can measure the effects of weather on the rotation of the Earth. We can measure the differences in gravity because mountains tend to be less dense than the Earth as a whole. These aren't philosophical positions, but actual facts that we can measure. And those facts agree with the model of gravity Newton (later modified by Einstein) proposed.

It´s STILL nonsense as this is NOT connected to the dayly time-motions of the tidal waves.

Once again, getting so many decimal places out of that data ALREADY shows incompetence. Not understanding the basics (as shown in the equations mentioned) just substantiates that.

In other circumstances you would have demanded such mathematical accuracies and now you´re complaining over such accuracy - just for being stubbernly opposite as usual.

 

[Polymath257]

It´s STILL nonsense as this is NOT connected to the dayly time-motions of the tidal waves.

Which are produced by the gravity of the moon and sun?

In other circumstances you would have demanded such mathematical accuracies and now you´re complaining over such accuracy - just for being stubbernly opposite as usual.

Mathematics is a *language*. But like all languages, it can also produce nonsense when incorrectly applied. What your links do is NOT 'mathematical accuracies', but rather complete nonsense. That is because it is based on fundamental misunderstandings and mistakes. And I have pointed out those misunderstandings. As have others.

 

[Native]

Which are produced by the gravity of the moon and sun?

More disconnected nonsense! The daily tidal waves have nothing to do with neither the Sun nor the Moon.

That is because it is based on fundamental misunderstandings and mistakes. And I have pointed out those misunderstandings. As have others.

I don´t care what you *points out* from your consensus dogmas as it´s mostly disconnected from all logics - as with your *gravity* sentense above too.

 

[epronovost]

More disconnected nonsense! The daily tidal waves have nothing to do with neither the Sun nor the Moon.

Good grief! That's been explained in the 18th century. Of course it's linked to lunar and solar cycles. That's why we can predict them so accurately and even its size. In coastal area, tide strength and hour is announced just like the weather.

 

[Polymath257]

More disconnected nonsense! The daily tidal waves have nothing to do with neither the Sun nor the Moon.

Just. Wow. The connection is well established and has been known and used for centuries.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

 

[Native]

Just. Wow. The connection is well established and has been known and used for centuries.

I was specifically talking of the DAILY tidal rhythms in connection with the gravity assumptions.

Once again you forget to make the natural and philosophical observations and connections – just like Newton – before making your judgmental conclusions.

Qoute from - Circadian rhythm - Wikipedia
A circadian rhythm is a natural, internal process that regulates the sleep-wake cycle and repeats on each rotation of the Earth roughly every 24 hours.[1] It can refer to any biological process that displays an endogenous, entrainable oscillation of about 24 hours. These 24-hour rhythms are driven by a circadian clock, and they have been widely observed in plants, animals, fungi, and cyanobacteria.[2]

The term circadian comes from the Latin circa, meaning "around" (or "approximately"), and diēm, meaning "day". The formal study of biological temporal rhythms, such as daily, tidal, weekly, seasonal, and annual rhythms, is called chronobiology. Processes with 24-hour oscillations are more generally called diurnal rhythms; strictly speaking, they should not be called circadian rhythms unless their endogenous nature is confirmed

All this is specifically connected to the Earth physical rotation and has NOTHING to do with your *occult agency* at all - along with lots of other things with the *occult agency* assumed Apple Force.

 

[epronovost]

I was specifically talking of the DAILY tidal rhythms in connection with the gravity assumptions.

Once again you forget to make the natural and philosophical observations and connections – just like Newton – before making your judgmental conclusions.

Qoute from - Circadian rhythm - Wikipedia
A circadian rhythm is a natural, internal process that regulates the sleep-wake cycle and repeats on each rotation of the Earth roughly every 24 hours.[1] It can refer to any biological process that displays an endogenous, entrainable oscillation of about 24 hours. These 24-hour rhythms are driven by a circadian clock, and they have been widely observed in plants, animals, fungi, and cyanobacteria.[2]

The term circadian comes from the Latin circa, meaning "around" (or "approximately"), and diēm, meaning "day". The formal study of biological temporal rhythms, such as daily, tidal, weekly, seasonal, and annual rhythms, is called chronobiology. Processes with 24-hour oscillations are more generally called diurnal rhythms; strictly speaking, they should not be called circadian rhythms unless their endogenous nature is confirmed

All this is specifically connected to the Earth physical rotation and has NOTHING to do with your *occult agency* at all - along with lots of other things with the *occult agency* assumed Apple Force.

Dude, tidal rythm as linked to circadian rythm in animal is about those animals whose behavior and life cycle is not based on change of light like day/night cycle, but low and high tide. It as nothing to do with how the tide are formed and why. Tides are formed by the movement of the sun and moon exerting a gravitational pull on the oceans.

 

[Polymath257]

I was specifically talking of the DAILY tidal rhythms in connection with the gravity assumptions.

So was I.

Once again you forget to make the natural and philosophical observations and connections – just like Newton – before making your judgmental conclusions.

Qoute from - Circadian rhythm - Wikipedia
A circadian rhythm is a natural, internal process that regulates the sleep-wake cycle and repeats on each rotation of the Earth roughly every 24 hours.[1] It can refer to any biological process that displays an endogenous, entrainable oscillation of about 24 hours. These 24-hour rhythms are driven by a circadian clock, and they have been widely observed in plants, animals, fungi, and cyanobacteria.[2]

The term circadian comes from the Latin circa, meaning "around" (or "approximately"), and diēm, meaning "day". The formal study of biological temporal rhythms, such as daily, tidal, weekly, seasonal, and annual rhythms, is called chronobiology. Processes with 24-hour oscillations are more generally called diurnal rhythms; strictly speaking, they should not be called circadian rhythms unless their endogenous nature is confirmed

All this is specifically connected to the Earth physical rotation and has NOTHING to do with your *occult agency* at all - along with lots of other things with the *occult agency* assumed Apple Force.

Actually, yes it does. The size of the tide varies in the course of a month, which shows that the major component of the tides is due to the gravitational pull of the moon. It is actually the *difference* between the force of the Earth as a whole and the force on the water, so the tides tend to be large in the direction of the moon.

There is also a solar components to this.

And, yes, I know what 'circadian' means. And yes, the tides are due to the gravitational influence of both the moon and the sun.

NOAA Tides & Currents.