The dishonest use of the name "Christian"

[Bob Dixon]

Admittingly, I made a distinction between orthodox Christians and adherents of heretical doctrines. The kind of heretical doctrine I really had in mind were the kind that deny the divinity of Jesus.

You still haven't demonstrated that the earliest Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

You still haven't demonstrated that the earliest Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

I'm still waiting too.

 

[Me Myself]

And first christians didn´t believe in the trinity as we know it.

 

[waitasec]

What if I decide to change my name to "Sunstone?" I'd like to take your avatar as well and design my profile so that it's so similar that on the surface people will not be able to distinguish between us. Would you appreciate that?

so it's about the surface, presentation and image.


how incredibly shallow, well for me that is.


doesn't this contradict the notion that jesus wants a personal relationship with people?
or are you the one who's wanting a relationship with those that call themselves christian...

 

[waitasec]

While we're on the subject of freedom:

Galatians 5:6 The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. NIV

what does that mean for todays "christian"

you have those that believe tough love is to be shown to the homosexual community as they down right ignore..."treat other as you would like to be treated" and "give to those that ask of you without expecting it to be returned"
as showing gods love somehow...

does control = christian love?

 

[Reverend Rick]

what does that mean for todays "christian"

you have those that believe tough love is to be shown to the homosexual community as they down right ignore..."treat other as you would like to be treated" and "give to those that ask of you without expecting it to be returned"
as showing gods love somehow...

does control = christian love?

Finally something we can agree upon waitasec! :yes:

Perhaps the christians you speak of are the dishonest christians.

 

[Nakosis]

what does that mean for todays "christian"

you have those that believe tough love is to be shown to the homosexual community as they down right ignore..."treat other as you would like to be treated" and "give to those that ask of you without expecting it to be returned"
as showing gods love somehow...

does control = christian love?

A Christian's job I think ought be to spread the message of Jesus. Not force others into living the way they think they should.

Allow everyone to judge and decide for themselves without judging that person.
Some Christians are like that.

 

[waitasec]

A Christian's job I think ought be to spread the message of Jesus. Not force others into living the way they think they should.

Allow everyone to judge and decide for themselves without judging that person.
Some Christians are like that.

true, but sadly the majority of christians are not....
:sad:

 

[Reverend Rick]

Some Christians are like that.

You mean there are actually christians that don't cherry pick verses that they like while ignoring others?

You actually believe some christians don't pig out at the buffet while their children run wild and sit and talk about the evil homosexuals next door to them?

I'm proud of you for not stereotyping all Christians, thank you!

 

[waitasec]

i'm sorry, i didn't see this earlier...

Finally something we can agree upon waitasec! :yes:

wassup with that?
just kidding.
we agree on a lot of things i think, it's just those things we disagree on are of the sensitive nature... :faint:

Perhaps the christians you speak of are the dishonest christians.

or just dishonest people

 

[Nakosis]

You mean there are actually christians that don't cherry pick verses that they like while ignoring others?

You actually believe some christians don't pig out at the buffet while their children run wild and sit and talk about the evil homosexuals next door to them?

I'm proud of you for not stereotyping all Christians, thank you!

My Grandmother was a Christian like that so...
Her church had a homosexual female pastor.
That's kind of who I had in mind. Her work with the church made her happy. They would work with other churches to do a lot of charity work. She never tried to force her religious beliefs on me.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I kind of like the way this thread is turning. So who are the dishonest Christians?

 

[Me Myself]

They are silent. Guess it´s better than being called on the spot!

 

[Rainbow Mage]

"That they might know you, the only one God, and Jesus who you have sent."- (Gospel of John) Hmmm. Jesus is God?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

You still haven't demonstrated that the earliest Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

Matt 14:28 "Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."

Here's one.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Matt 14:28 "Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."

Here's one.

How so? I certainly don't interpret it as such so please explain.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Matt 14:28 "Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."

Here's one.

Noun

κύριος (kýrios) m, plural κύριοι

1. master (someone who has control over something or someone)
2. mister (title conferred on an adult male)
3. sir (an address to any male)

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Noun

κύριος (kýrios) m, plural κύριοι

1. master (someone who has control over something or someone)
2. mister (title conferred on an adult male)
3. sir (an address to any male)

Exactly. Kurios is applied to angels in the LXX

 

[Scuba Pete]

what does that mean for todays "christian"

Here's a thought: Jesus never condemned homosexuals. He didn't even condemn prostitutes. WHAT WAS HE THINKING???

Matthew 12:7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. NIV

 

[McBell]

You still haven't demonstrated that the earliest Christians worshipped Jesus as God.

I'm still waiting too.

I am not going to be holding my breath, that's for sure.