The Downfall of the Left

[Twilight Hue]

Just like the true colors of Republicans are the Neo Nazi's and KKK and Westboro right?

Not even comparable.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Not even comparable.

It is, and I did. Trying to demean 'the left' by a fraction of a percent of demonstrators who were violent is exactly like trying to demean 'the right' by a fraction of a percent who identify as Neo Nazi, KKK and Westboro.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

The growth rates of radical left communities on reddit and discord have never been higher.

What are the positions of the radical left, compared to the nonradical left? How much higher have the rates gotten, and based on what timeline?

 

[Monk Of Reason]

I just pointed out that 28 years and 2 mos. makes it 6-2 compared to 28 years flat.


You're the one who included that time period by going back 28 years, I just pushed it back 2 months.

Sure. It makes no differnece to the point. If you dislike the usage of 28 years I can say that the Republicans have only won one popular election for president since the 80's.

 

[idav]

Many people may not realize it right now, but the protests, the violence, the chants of "not my president," etc., are only going to hurt the Democratic Party in the long run. Moderates and swing voters are looking at that behavior and they will associate it with the Left. When future elections roll around, those same swing voters may think twice before aligning themselves with the Left because of it.

To the protesters, it may seem like they are standing up for a cause they believe in. Ultimately, they are driving a wedge between the Left and everyone else. Politically, they are their own worst enemy.

Yes I realize many don't hold women's rights up to the level that many would like in a misogynistic world. The worldwide demonstrations should be telling us that people will not be taking it laying down. To make it a partisan issue is half the problem, the right always taking things personal. Maybe if trump weren't a misogynist the right wouldn't take such demonstrations personally.

 

[Revoltingest]

The republicans have won only a single popular vote for president in the last 28 years.

If one looks at a longer time frame, it evens out.
Twice in the last 32 years.
Thrice in the last 36 years.
Ref...
List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia

 

[Monk Of Reason]

If one looks at a longer time frame, it evens out.
Twice in the last 32 years.
Thrice in the last 36 years.
Ref...
List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia

That doesn't matter to the point I"m making. I'm takling about the trend we have seen for nearly 30 years. 30 years may not be very long to you old timer but to anyone under 50 its been a while. During my lifetime I have only ever seen a republican win once. My entire life. And that is the entire life of my entire generation.

Now if that means we will continue to see a more liberal shift as the old die out and the young continue to trend more and more liberal I don't know. But I was just making the counter that the democratic party/ liberalism hasn't taken some huge hit with trump's win.

edit: Also the political landscape is very different today that it was in the 80's. When George Bush Sr took office in 1988 (The 1st of two elections since where Rep have won the popular vote since) Gay marriage was trending at around 8% support. Today its nearly 60%. We went from having a crime crisis to fighting tough crime and war on drugs to finding out that it isn't working and attepmting to work something else out. We've went from "whats the internet" to "I have six divices in my home and or on my person that can download movies faster than they could have loaded a page".

 

[Carl W.]

@Monk Of Reason

WHO are you calling old???

I prefer "seniority" .
Remember: Getting old ain't for wimps.

Arthritis, pain, c.r.s.
"c.r.s." is the worse of all.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

@Monk Of Reason

WHO are you calling old???

I prefer "seniority" .
Remember: Getting old ain't for wimps.

Arthritis, pain, c.r.s.
"c.r.s." is the worse of all.

Ah ya'll geezers crack me up. jk jk.

I just wanted perspective put that the 80's was before about 1/3rd of the country was born so its a long time ago for us.

 

[Revoltingest]

That doesn't matter to the point I"m making. I'm takling about the trend we have seen for nearly 30 years. 30 years may not be very long to you old timer but to anyone under 50 its been a while. During my lifetime I have only ever seen a republican win once. My entire life. And that is the entire life of my entire generation.

It's a trend only if one carefully chooses the cut-off year.
The problem is that presidential elections are infrequent events.

Now if that means we will continue to see a more liberal shift as the old die out and the young continue to trend more and more liberal I don't know. But I was just making the counter that the democratic party/ liberalism hasn't taken some huge hit with trump's win.

I agree with that.
Things which look dramatic & decisive are usually an illusion.
I've lived long enuf to see the pendulum swing back & forth a few times.

edit: Also the political landscape is very different today that it was in the 80's. When George Bush Sr took office in 1988 (The 1st of two elections since where Rep have won the popular vote since) Gay marriage was trending at around 8% support. Today its nearly 60%. We went from having a crime crisis to fighting tough crime and war on drugs to finding out that it isn't working and attepmting to work something else out. We've went from "whats the internet" to "I have six divices in my home and or on my person that can download movies faster than they could have loaded a page".

Warning!
Trite sentence coming up....
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

It's a trend only if one carefully chooses the cut-off year.
The problem is that presidential elections are infrequent events.

1 out of 7 or 2 out of 8 isn't really a big issue. And even if the election is infrequent 30 years is still a long time. It isn't a cherry picked special number. I just took my lifetime which may be arbitrary but its all I really can attest for.

Warning!
Trite sentence coming up....
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

People are people no matter their time or place.

 

[Revoltingest]

1 out of 7 or 2 out of 8 isn't really a big issue. And even if the election is infrequent 30 years is still a long time. It isn't a cherry picked special number. I just took my lifetime which may be arbitrary but its all I really can attest for.

Your lifetime is the mere blink of my eye.
OK....it's several blinks.

 

[tytlyf]

Nope, that's just your opinion. You're focusing on less than 1% of democrats, most aren't protesting. Oh well, the republican party is crapping itself.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Your lifetime is the mere blink of my eye.
OK....it's several blinks.

Occasional winks.

 

[Revoltingest]

Occasional winks.

So long as we're not twinks.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

So long as we're not twinks.

no twinks. Yanks maybe if we're honest.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So long as we're not twinks.

Aww.

 

[Revoltingest]

Aww.

I recently learned of that term when searching for images of something else.
There are many many things to learn in that big world out there.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I recently learned of that term when searching for images of something else.
There are many many things to learn in that big world out there.

"searching for images of something else."

Bears?

 

[Mindmaster]

The republicans have won only a single popular vote for president in the last 28 years.

Of course, then it stands to reason to question why that is...

Since there aren't any shortages of people with traditional values, fundamentalists, and other right-affiliated folks.

As far as I can tell, the Democrats have been scamming the voting system for a long time -- thankfully, the electoral college is doing its thing.