The earth is 13,000 years old and it is soon to be renewed when Christ comes

[FFH]

Dallas, I haven't used air conditioning in over 7 years, I haven't driven a car in almost 4 years, I grew up heating my father's home with a wood stove (which he paid me to do), I use flourescent lights, I use a mixture of ethanol (corn fuel) and regular gas in my bike, I buy in bulk, like 50 pound bags of wheat, which I grind myself, etc.

We have a brand new highly effecient natural gas heater though and I do buy things like milk in plastic of course, but who doesn't, and I don't work for anyone else so I don't need to go anywhere more than about once a week.

Why wouldn't I, or anyone else, want to trade this life for a paradisiacal one, like the one Adam and Eve enjoyed, which will happen very soon.

 

[FFH]

Since it would make just as much sense to name any phenomenon at all as evidence of intelligent design, this just amounts to saying, "Things happen, so God must have designed things that way." It's not at all convincing to anybody who isn't bound and determined to find it convincing.

All the material things in my life have an intelligent designer behind them. Is it any less reasonable to suggest my body, the animals, the plants, this earth and this universe, also have an intelligent designer behind them as well ??

That cannot be such a hard thing to comprehend or believe, especially with so many intelligent posters here.

I find it impossible to believe big bang, evolution, etc. theories. They make no sense whatsoever, while obvserving our own universe and those universes outside our own.

 

[DallasApple]

Dallas, I haven't used air conditioning in over 7 years, I haven't driven a car in almost 4 years, I grew up heating my father's home with a wood stove (which he paid me to do), I use flourescent lights, I use a mixture of ethanol (corn fuel) and regular gas in my bike, I buy in bulk, like 50 pound bags of wheat, which I grind myself, etc.

We have a brand new highly effecient natural gas heater, I do buy things like milk in plastic of course, but who doesn't, and I don't work for anyone else so I don't need to go anywhere more than about once a week.

Why wouldn't I, or anyone else, want to trade this life for a paradisiacal one, like the one Adam and Eve enjoyed ????

Awesome..I have much respect for you..I pee in the toilet at least twice before I flush..I refuse to drink bottled water..I dont pound any wheat..or anything like that.And what do you mean you dont "work for anyone else"? How do you get your money?(are you a cave man?)

Anyway I still dont see how Adam and Eve were any better?They sure as hell seemed to screw things up..did they not?

Love

Dallas

 

[FFH]

Awesome..I have much respect for you..I pee in the toilet at least twice before I flush..I refuse to drink bottled water..I dont pound any wheat..or anything like that.And what do you mean you dont "work for anyone else"? How do you get your money?(are you a cave man?)

I worked for the same company for 20 years, from age 22 to 42, but the company went out of business in November of 2008. I have no retirement but have some savings.

I trade stocks on the net, using my savings, for income.

I have an account with Online Stock Trading, Discount Brokerage Firm, Investment Accounts, Stock Research, Online Broker, Retirement Investing, IRA - Scottrade and use their trading system to trade stocks for income.

Anyway I still dont see how Adam and Eve were any better?They sure seemed to mess things up..did they not?

Yes, but that can be reversed, if we become righteous again, as they (Adam and Eve) were, before they fell (decided to disobey God).

 

[DallasApple]

Also..how do you run your computer? Is it corn fuel too?

Are you on a generator to be on the computer?

Does corn fuel give you free internet access?


Do you have a windmill for that? Or 4,000 gerbils running round on a spinning wheel for that?

Love

Dallas

 

[challupa]

Yes, but that can be reversed, if we become righteous again, as they were, before they fell (decided to disobey God).

Adam and Eve didn't "fall". Adam and Eve and the garden story is an analogy of human evolution finally reaching a point where we became self-aware.

 

[darkendless]

All the material things in my life have an intelligent designer behind them. Is it any less reasonable to suggest my body, the animals, the plants, this earth and this universe, also have an intelligent designer behind them as well ??

That cannot be such a hard thing to comprehend or believe, especially with so many intelligent posters here.

I find it impossible to believe big bang, evolution, etc. theories. They make no sense whatsoever, while obvserving our own universe and those universes outside our own.

Evolution is not a stand alone theory, evolution impacts many many fields of science. We've all said it, why cant you accept it FFH?

The reason its so hard to believe is because your theories and evidence is so rediculous that a 10 year old starting science at primary school would know better. Evolution makes sense, you need to go dig a 3ft deep hole in your backyard and look at the colour of the dirt change, thats 20,000 years of evolution for you.

 

[FFH]

Dallas,

God has promised to renew this earth.

Joseph Smith wrote the LDS Articles of Faith, which are a part of the LDS church's very basic doctrine...

Articles of Faith 1: 10
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

 

[DallasApple]

I worked for the same company for 20 years, from age 22 to 42, but the company went out of business in November of 2008. I have no retirement but have some savings.

I trade stocks on the net, using my savings, for income.

I have an account with Online Stock Trading, Discount Brokerage Firm, Investment Accounts, Stock Research, Online Broker, Retirement Investing, IRA - Scottrade and use their trading system to trade stocks for income.

Yes, but that can be reversed, if we become righteous again, as they (Adam and Eve) were, before they fell (decided to disobey God).

I see..you are a "day trader" on a corn fueled computer.

O>k I get it.

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

Dallas,

God has promised to renew this eath if we are righteous and believe in him.

Joseph Smith wrote the LDS Articles of Faith, which are a part of the LDS churches very basic doctrine...

Articles of Faith 1: 10
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacalglory.

Hey..no problem..I believe you.

Happy day trading(do you realize what that means) ..Keep pounding wheat and hoping for the return of the original garden while you fiddle with Wal Street using a corn fed generator.

Love

Dallas

 

[FFH]

Also..how do you run your computer? Is it corn fuel too?

Are you on a generator to be on the computer?

Does corn fuel give you free internet access?


Do you have a windmill for that? Or 4,000 gerbils running round on a spinning wheel for that?

I have a 200 dollar extremely compact electric grinder that sounds like a jet taking off when I use it.

I do have an electric, gas, telephone/dsl, etc. bill, just like everyone else. I rent part of a house on about an acre of land, in the middle of an expensive suburb, in the heart of an LDS community.

Soon we will all be fueling our cars with waste materials, not corn.

Verenium Corporation and BP Global | BP are working together to accomplish this.

Verenium owns a patent Einstein was working on, which will allow waste materials to be turned into fuel.

 

[DallasApple]

YouTube - Lauryn Hill Zion

FFH..

You will love this song ..trust me on this one..(turn it up too) KISS

Love

Dallas

 

[FFH]

Here's my wheat grinder.

I'm not living in the dark ages, just living sensibly and within my means, so I don't have to work (be a slave) for someone else for the rest of my life.

I refuse to be a slave to debt also.

 

[DallasApple]

Here's my wheat grinder.

I'm not living in the dark ages, just living sensibly and within my means, so I don't have to work (be as slave) for someone else for the rest of my life.

I refuse to be a slave to debt also.

I uderstand sweet heart. :yes:

You owe me no explanation..

Listen to that song I sent you..its about a promise of something to come.The song is about a baby..but think of the bigger picture..

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

P.S I Like your wheat grinder!!! TEE HEE..

Love

Dallas

 

[DallasApple]

Nevr mind..You got it!

Love

Dallas

 

[FFH]

YouTube - Lauryn Hill Zion

FFH..

You will love this song ..trust me on this one..(turn it up too) KISS

Love

Dallas

Thanks, you got me figured out, you got me pinned down, right on. I'm just a regular guy, not a freak. That song is just the kind of stuff I like.

I also like these two songs by P.O.D.

I'm no more of a freak than P.O.D. is for writing and singing these songs.


POD - Set Your Eyes To Zion

"Dreaming of Zion awake, sleeping awake" ~ P.O.D.

POD- Sleeping Awake

 

[jacobweymouth]

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

However we do know when the last days have come

7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass? 8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. 9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. 13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

http://bible.cc/luke/21-7.htm

 

[FFH]

POD- Sleeping Awake

Lyrics

P.O.D ~ Sleeping Awake

Reveal to me the mysteries
Can you tell me what it means?
Explain these motions and metaphors
Unlock these secrets in me
Describe the vision, the meaning is missing
Won't anybody listen?

Define the riddles of my mind
Nothing is really what it seems

Dreaming of Zion, Awake
Sleeping Awake
Dreaming of Zion, Awake
Can't stop Sleeping Awake

Do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
Do you feel what I feel?
Can't stop Sleeping Awake
Do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
Do you feel like I feel?
Can't stop Sleeping...

Can you see it? The writing,
Can you tell me what it means?
Translate the symbols, Enigma
Expressions keep questioning me
The message is written, the meaning is missing
Won't anybody Listen?

Prophesy, interpretate the signs
Nothing is really what it seems

Dreaming of Zion, Awake
Sleeping Awake
Dreaming of Zion, Awake
Can't stop Sleeping Awake

Do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
Do you feel what I feel?
Can't stop Sleeping Awake
Do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
Do you feel like I feel?
Can't stop Sleeping Awake

Do you see what I see?
Can you hear what I hear?
And do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
And do you feel like I feel?
And can you dream like I dream?

Do you see what I see?
Can you hear what I hear?
Or do you feel like I feel?
Or do you dream like I dream?
Anybody see me?
Anybody hear me?
Anybody feel me?
Anybody out there?!?

Dreaming of Zion, Awake
Sleeping Awake
Dreaming of Zion, Awake
Can't stop Sleeping Awake

Do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
Do you feel what I feel?
Can't stop Sleeping Awake
Do you see what I see?
And can you hear what I hear?
Do you feel like I feel?
Can't stop Sleeping Awake

Anybody see me?
Anybody hear me?
Anybody feel me?
Anybody out there?!?

 

[DallasApple]

Thanks, you got me figured out, you got me pinned down, right on. I'm just a regular guy, not a freak. That song is just the kind of stuff I like.

I also like these two songs by P.O.D.

I'm no more of a freak than P.O.D. is for writing and singing these songs.


POD - Set Your Eyes To Zion

"Dreaming of Zion awake, sleeping awake" ~ P.O.D.

POD- Sleeping Awake

THANK YOU!!

I Loved the first one..2nd one isint moving me..(its too rough for me)

But I appreciate both of them!

Thank you..

Love

Dallas