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The Economist endorses Kamala Harris

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well then you really need to buy a 21st century edition because you are years out of date and further show that you have no understanding of physics or technology.
Yeah draining batteries is pretty much a trigger word for me that it's not going to be as good as something that is plugged directly into a massive nuclear powerhouse or fossil power in the tank.

Energy baby. Potential. That's the key.

Build a battery that rivals that and I'm on board.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Yeah draining batteries is pretty much a trigger word for me that it's not going to be as good as something that is plugged directly into a massive nuclear powerhouse or fossil power in the tank.

Energy baby. Potential. That's the key.

Build a battery that rivals that and I'm on board.
Better hurry up the only gasoline (actually needs E85 which is 85% alcohol) sub 2 second to 60 mph road car is a limited edition Dodge Challanger from 2023. The rest are EVs including the Tesla S plaid for less than 100k which is about half what a used low mileage dodge goes for.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Better hurry up the only gasoline (actually needs E85 which is 85% alcohol) sub 2 second to 60 mph road car is a limited edition Dodge Challanger from 2023. The rest are EVs including the Tesla S plaid for less than 100k which is about half what a used low mileage dodge goes for.
You're only gloating over brand new items and a fully charged one to boot. I'm looking at a car several years down the road performance wise , and with less than a full charge.

I don't really care for Planned Obsolescence more than it already has.

I'm betting on three things down the road if and when EVS are a monopoly.

1)Batteries Not Included.

2)Batteries will be sealed in your car forcing you to buy a new car every 7 to 10 years.

3) mandatory fire insurance.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
You're only gloating over brand new items and a fully charged one to boot. I'm looking at a car several years down the road performance wise , and with less than a full charge.

I don't really care for Planned Obsolescence more than it already has.

I'm betting on three things down the road if and when EVS are a monopoly.

1)Batteries Not Included.

2)Batteries will be sealed in your car forcing you to buy a new car every 7 to 10 years.

3) mandatory fire insurance.
Planned obsolescence was Detroit's strategy till the Japanese started importing cars that lasted longer, the average expected is now 200K, and 300 with care. Remember when they added the extra digit to odometers?
1 Batteries not included 2 batteries not removable, make up your mind.
Ford made the pinto and Nader was right. , I remember driving one when I closed the hatch to hard the window popped out.
Then there was the ****vette,


Also the limit to battery output is not state of charge, they are not carbon-zinc.

I miss Tom and Ray Magliozi but cars were not better back then.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Planned obsolescence was Detroit's strategy till the Japanese started importing cars that lasted longer, the average expected is now 200K, and 300 with care. Remember when they added the extra digit to odometers?
1 Batteries not included 2 batteries not removable, make up your mind.
Ford made the pinto and Nader was right. , I remember driving one when I closed the hatch to hard the window popped out.
Then there was the ****vette,


Also the limit to battery output is not state of charge, they are not carbon-zinc.

I miss Tom and Ray Magliozi but cars were not better back then.
Cars were repairable. Ever seen those houses with the engine hoist in the driveway? You can rip out and put in new carburetors , radiators, and whatnot without having to pay a mechanic at exorbitant prices.

Good luck trying to do that with cars these days without a college level education.

Planned Obsolescence going strong, make no bones about it. Cars today are pure overpriced expensive pieces of plastic junk.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Better hurry up the only gasoline (actually needs E85 which is 85% alcohol) sub 2 second to 60 mph road car is a limited edition Dodge Challanger from 2023. The rest are EVs including the Tesla S plaid for less than 100k which is about half what a used low mileage dodge goes for.
Put me down for an ethynol powered car. :)
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member


Cars were repairable. Ever seen those houses with the engine hoist in the driveway? You can rip out and put in new carburetors , radiators, and whatnot without having to pay a mechanic at exorbitant prices.

Good luck trying to do that with cars these days without a college level education.

Planned Obsolescence going strong, make no bones about it. Cars today are pure overpriced expensive pieces of plastic junk.
They still are, I am replacing a timing belt in my garage right now.
Unless you are working on a BMW or something, a $200 scan tool will give you as much information as most shops have.
The shop owner might have a college education but most likely business, the actual mechanics no, good ones have training, just as they always have.
I'm sorry that the world has gotten so far beyond you, but it is just a different set of skills not some sort of massive change.

Ok, you can't time an engine by ear just by rotating the distributor anymore without a controller plugged in, but it is still the same procedure if you just want to use your ear though the tool gives you more useful info and it sure beats setting points.

The biggest problem so far is the car has seen 15 NY winters and getting some of the bolts on the bottom free where the heads have rusted requires care not to round them off.

The world is really not that scary out there if you back off and think about it instead of freaking every time something new comes up.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Put me down for an ethynol powered car. :)
Yeah, I can see you in one of these.
images
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
And Trump had to pay some hefty fines, lost the licence to do business in New York, has to pay millions in court costs for the cases he's still being prosecuted for, and they are not going to get him money. If anything, he lost more money in the last three years.
He is totally dependent on donations, and without them, he'd be probably bankrupt by now.
And Trump is 1.8 billion in debt. Some is fines, and most is loans on his buildings. Most he will find it hard to get banks to refinance given his history with fraud and other liabilities. His media shares are worth about 4 billion but if he loses the election this value will likely drop. If he sells shares the value will drop, and good luck trying to find buyers.

If he wins he can appoint someone as DOJ head, and immediately settle his 100 million lawsuit against the US. He can pocket that money. He can then file a series of lawsuits against the USA and his DOJ head will settle every case regardless of their validity. Trump could bilk the US Treasury for billions and billions. Who could stop him? Our presidents have massive power and can control the DOJ. A DOJ that answers to the executive and doesn't act independently will be very dangerous.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The Economist has endorsed Kamala Harris for President. It writes in part:

While some newspapers refuse to back a presidential candidate this year, today "The Economist" is endorsing Kamala Harris.
Tens of millions of Americans will vote for Mr. Trump next week. Some will be true believers. But many will take a calculated risk that in office his worst instincts would be constrained. We see that as recklessly complacent.
By making Mr. Trump leader of the free world, Americans would be gambling with the economy, the rule of law, and international peace.
Ms. Harris's shortcomings, by contrast, are ordinary, and none of them are disqualifying.
If "The Economist" had a vote, we would cast it for her.
This was a great piece.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
I'm citing myself, citing Rachel Maddow here, but.....
The Economy and the Election

Of course The Economist endorses VP Harris, she and Biden's economic policies have turned the USA into the envy of every other nation on the planet in recovery from the COVID collapse, and made it the best in US (and possibly planetary) history. It is, as they say, "a Dream Economy". If you JUST take the time to look at the facts, instead of listening to the majority of press outlets (i.e. the right wing outlets), and if you can put your whiny emotions aside for a few minutes; reality starts to shine through.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I've never had a minivan before. Hmm.
Well it burns E85 gasoline if you can find it which is 10-15% less than regular but gets 20-25% less mileage per gallon but does support corn farmers and their ethanol subsidies. It does however increase horsepower if the engine is designed for it so you can be a red hot soccer mama in your mommy van.

Yes ethanol from corn is greener than regular gasoline and most gas has some in it at this point, but by the time you are done with fertilizer etc. it becomes questionable. Some say it is 40% greener and some say it is 40% worse, but red states like it and so it gets bipartisan support for subsidies and maybe saving the enviroment.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I'm citing myself, citing Rachel Maddow here, but.....
The Economy and the Election

Of course The Economist endorses VP Harris, she and Biden's economic policies have turned the USA into the envy of every other nation on the planet in recovery from the COVID collapse, and made it the best in US (and possibly planetary) history. It is, as they say, "a Dream Economy". If you JUST take the time to look at the facts, instead of listening to the majority of press outlets (i.e. the right wing outlets), and if you can put your whiny emotions aside for a few minutes; reality starts to shine through.
The funny thing is, while many Americans emotionally feel like the economy is bad, they are behaving as if it weren't. Check out voluntary spending -- travelling for vacation or family time on holidays, for example. It's up, significantly up. Consumer spending is up by more than can be accounted for by inflation -- in part because wages are also rising. And rising wages offset inflation.

In my view, many people are ignoring their own experiences and instead believing the dire threats from the Trump campaign. Their behaviors say they know that things are actually quite good, but they can't quite bring themselves to accept that emotionally, because they've been persuaded by very skewed news telling them how bad it is.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
In my view, many people are ignoring their own experiences and instead believing the dire threats from the Trump campaign. Their behaviors say they know that things are actually quite good, but they can't quite bring themselves to accept that emotionally, because they've been persuaded by very skewed news telling them how bad it is.
Sad that certain people will let emotions trump facts and positive experiences in my view.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Well it burns E85 gasoline if you can find it which is 10-15% less than regular but gets 20-25% less mileage per gallon but does support corn farmers and their ethanol subsidies. It does however increase horsepower if the engine is designed for it so you can be a red hot soccer mama in your mommy van.

Yes ethanol from corn is greener than regular gasoline and most gas has some in it at this point, but by the time you are done with fertilizer etc. it becomes questionable. Some say it is 40% greener and some say it is 40% worse, but red states like it and so it gets bipartisan support for subsidies and maybe saving the enviroment.
Well, heck, you don't have to use corn for ethanol. You can make ethanol from cattails and clean up the water at the same time.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
In my view, many people are ignoring their own experiences and instead believing the dire threats from the Trump campaign. Their behaviors say they know that things are actually quite good, but they can't quite bring themselves to accept that emotionally, because they've been persuaded by very skewed news telling them how bad it is.
The own, daily experience is the prices in the grocery store. The raise is a one time event. When asked, the most recent and most often experiences are dominant. That's why most feel that the economy is bad.
The news may help with that, but the experience is real (though skewed).
 
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