The Evils of the Religious Mob

[Ormiston]

The faith of an individual in God and religious principles is, in itself, harmless and even respectable (although suspect and, at times, comical). The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the "Church". The "mob" mentality that arrises when any group of people take an emotionally fueled agenda is extremely dangerous, especially when the agenda is the damnation of ones enemies. For example, the Christians revel in the fact that non-believers shall suffer eternally for their sins and masquerade this rush with their pity and selflessness. Despicable. I know this is simply a forum for discussion, and yet, I am truly afraid of the power they wield in our governments and in social groups. Speak out against Jesus or God and you will be the only martyr.

John

 

[Majikthise]

The faith of an individual in God and religious principles is, in itself, harmless and even respectable (although suspect and, at times, comical). The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the "Church". The "mob" mentality that arrises when any group of people take an emotionally fueled agenda is extremely dangerous, especially when the agenda is the damnation of ones enemies. For example, the Christians revel in the fact that non-believers shall suffer eternally for their sins and masquerade this rush with their pity and selflessness. Despicable. I know this is simply a forum for discussion, and yet, I am truly afraid of the power they wield in our governments and in social groups. Speak out against Jesus or God and you will be the only martyr.

John

It has been my experience that christians are sincere in their fear that non-believers will suffer in hell. I really don't think they "revel" in it. It may be totally lost on some of us and we may even find it annoying at times, but I believe they are truely concerned. Mob mentality is definitely not exlusive to religion either. The nazis are an excellent example of that.

 

[justa_gurl]

The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the "Church". The Christians revel in the fact that non-believers shall suffer eternally for their sins and masquerade this rush with their pity and selflessness.

Christianity was formed on the premise of a simple man, who by touching lepers and eating with gentiles went against the church authority and their false perceptions. He proved that the best of mankind and the highest of laws -love and grace- are bound to instigate opposition, will often persecute and even perceivably destroy you, but are in fact indestructible in simplicity and truth. It's a message which promotes the exact opposite of an aggressive stance. In no way shape or form does religion promote violence, aggression, or judgment in principle. The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the individual. From there it spreads outward and often infects 'god', who ends up becoming the patsy and unfortunate casualty, serving to provide them with sense of false authority and thus legitimizing their actions and uniting them in principle and purpose for a cause they themselves invented.

The problem, in my opion, is therefore not religion itself or anyone learning from god, but those speaking for him. Even, i might add, when those who would speak for god don't even acknowledge they have one.

 

[Majikthise]

You must spread karma......

Well said!

 

[Mister Emu]

The faith of an individual in God and religious principles is, in itself, harmless and even respectable (although suspect and, at times, comical). The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the "Church". The "mob" mentality that arrises when any group of people take an emotionally fueled agenda is extremely dangerous, especially when the agenda is the damnation of ones enemies. For example, the Christians revel in the fact that non-believers shall suffer eternally for their sins and masquerade this rush with their pity and selflessness. Despicable. I know this is simply a forum for discussion, and yet, I am truly afraid of the power they wield in our governments and in social groups. Speak out against Jesus or God and you will be the only martyr.

Wow. Just wow. Not whoa, not huh, not what the hell. Just. Wow.

Edit:

Ok, now the reply. Wow.

Really, here is the reply

Yup, we revel in the fact that y'all heathens are gonna burn in Hell, ain't it a hoot, I would suggest we jump up and dance about it , but dancing is a sin...

One question. You are afraid of the power wielded by Christians in government? Yeah, so much power, that 10-C's are barred from public buildings. So much power that school prayer of is banned. SO much power that abortion is legal. (Okay, two questions. How long would you like me to go on?)

 

[michel]

I'm not part of a religious mob, and I do believe in God. i also believe that there is no reason why anyone else has to - it's your choice. What's more I don't think any one will 'burn in hell' or anything so awful. As long as you and your conscience are OK about life, believe in what you will...for you, that is the truth.

 

[kreeden]

Justa Gurl , who happens to have a way of saying things .

Although there is no doubt that religion does find it's way into politics , I think that as often as not , politians use religion as a spring board . After all , what was it that the Boble says about politics ???

 

[Caprice]

what was it that the Boble says about politics ???

"Jiggie Jiggy Kajunga Junga, Boogie woogie woo."

Honestly, I've never read the Boble so I wouldn't know. :jiggy:

 

[kreeden]

Actually , the Bible has quite a bit to say about politics . But what I was thinking of is things like " Give to Rome that which is Rome's " and " My Kingdom is not of this world "... ok , both are very likely not as they are said in the Bible , but close enough for my point . Jesus don't appear to be much concerned about earthy politics .

I wonder what happened ???

 

[Tawn]

One question. You are afraid of the power wielded by Christians in government? Yeah, so much power, that 10-C's are barred from public buildings. So much power that school prayer of is banned. SO much power that abortion is legal. (Okay, two questions. How long would you like me to go on?)

You believe you have a God given right to inflict your beliefs on others.. thats why you see a problem with the above.
The 10 Commandments can be proudly displayed at any (christian) church you like. Those are public buildings are they not?
Im sure nobody is stopping a Christian child praying at breaktimes. How would you feel if your child was forced to bow to allah every day?
Abortion involves someone elses body and some elses fetus. YOu have every right to not go to an abortion clinic yourself.]\

Or am I to assume that you dont agree with the principles of a free society?

 

[Dayv]

Exactly Tawn. Christians may not have absolute power in the government, but they do push their beliefs on it a lot more than they should. Recent events, such as the ones Mister Emu mention, are just the result of people finally seperating religion from the state. To the best of my knowledge, one still swears on a bible in court (I might be wrong, has that changed?), on my college campus there are quite a few other pagans and I've heard numerous stories of them getting fired or kicked out of things when they finally come out about their beliefs. Where I work, the more serious christians come in and drop off pamphlets in obvious places in the store bashing other religions, but if I were to put out a pamphlet about druidism, even if I didn't bash other religions, people would go nuts.
Christianity has had a stranglehold on this country for 200 years, but now that others are finally starting to get sick it, christians act like the world's falling apart.

 

[Pah]

To the best of my knowledge, one still swears on a bible in court (I might be wrong, has that changed?)

It's now optional - the bible (or "So help me, God") is for swearing and without the bible for affirmations.

 

[michel]

I'm going to 'pop in' on this one again; perhaps we need to hear from more of my British (To include the Scots and Welsh) friends.

Am I living in dreamland, or is it not that the US seems to have far greater problems than we do about Christianity being rammed down every one's throat, with groups trying desperately to keep religion out of politics ? (where it ought not to be in the first place?)

I know that we have our own 'brand' (C of E) - but I heard not long ago that Blair intends to convert to Catholicism AFTER standing down as party leader.

 

[stemann]

I stand by what I said in the other thread. Everyone should abandon their religion and help everyone else, because any God that wouldn't be happy about this isn't worth worshipping.

 

[Scuba Pete]

The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the "Church".

Please re-read your post. Can you see the anti-Christian bias within it? Many Americans have bought into a double standard.

It's not OK for "the Church" to call others sinners.
It is OK for the others to call those belonging to the church any names they want.

I would suggest that your reaction to Christians, is the very same reaction that crucified Jesus in the first Century; Hate.

I thought it particularly amusing that you would say this (emboldening mine):

and masquerade this rush with their pity and selflessness.

How RUDE of these people to be so kind and caring. We know their TRUE agenda! Hide your hate behind love will you? I got you pegged!"

I don't ask that you like us. I will certainly not ask that you agree with us. But, I would suggest that your own "hates and prejudices" are equal or greater than what you are accusing us of. I would also suggest that you realize that some political parties will use religion as a shield to hide behind. That's not the church's fault.

 

[Mister Emu]

You believe you have a God given right to inflict your beliefs on others.. thats why you see a problem with the above.

You misunderstood my post. Also, I do not believe I have a right to force my beliefs on others. You assume too much.

The 10 Commandments can be proudly displayed at any (christian) church you like. Those are public buildings are they not?

I meant government(buildings).

Im sure nobody is stopping a Christian child praying at breaktimes. How would you feel if your child was forced to bow to allah every day?

I was not speaking of forced prayer, that is wrong. I was referring to times when a vast majority wish to pray, say when all but one or two of a football team before a game, and they cannot be led by their coach(this applies to any religion)

Abortion involves someone elses body and some elses fetus. YOu have every right to not go to an abortion clinic yourself.]\

Now this I believe should be a secular law, I do not believe a fetus should be property to be discarded at your discretion. Has nothing to do with my religion, except that my religion is strongly against it.

Or am I to assume that you dont agree with the principles of a free society?

Not really, and unless you believe that there should be no laws neither do you.

All I was saying was, that religion has so much power, that it can't stop any of these things. I made no qualitative statements about them.

because any God that wouldn't be happy about this isn't worth worshipping.

Helping people? Or, Abandoning their religion?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The faith of an individual in God and religious principles is, in itself, harmless and even respectable (although suspect and, at times, comical). The true problem lies in the hatred and prejudices of the "Church". The "mob" mentality that arrises when any group of people take an emotionally fueled agenda is extremely dangerous, especially when the agenda is the damnation of ones enemies. For example, the Christians revel in the fact that non-believers shall suffer eternally for their sins and masquerade this rush with their pity and selflessness. Despicable. I know this is simply a forum for discussion, and yet, I am truly afraid of the power they wield in our governments and in social groups. Speak out against Jesus or God and you will be the only martyr.

Yes, there are some christian extremist that do go way to far. www.landoverbaptist.org is an example. But there are some christians that can set aside religious differences, and be friends with heathens. There are some that don't even believe in Hell. The owner of the local metaphysical shop were I live hired an epescopalian to help run the shop. She is actually a very down to earth, decent person, and doesn't try to force the christian religion on others.

 

[Pah]

Yes, there are some christian extremist that do go way to far. www.landoverbaptist.org is an example. But there are some christians that can set aside religious differences, and be friends with heathens. There are some that don't even believe in Hell. The owner of the local metaphysical shop were I live hired an epescopalian to help run the shop. She is actually a very down to earth, decent person, and doesn't try to force the christian religion on others.
But please, for the sake of others, look deeper and farther into something before making such an extreme judgement of an entire group that is large and vast, and has much diversity.

Sorry to break this to you, Landover is run by one of the prolific atheists in the world. Landover is a satire as is his whitehouse.org ( I think there are others)

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I would suggest that your reaction to Christians, is the very same reaction that crucified Jesus in the first Century; Hate.

Ironically, that bit of fiction can be played either way. One could argue, for example, that your NT stories paint him as the victim of "The Evils of the Religious Mob". The OP is clearly biased, but hardly more so than your comments or those found in your Scripture.

 

[jewscout]

Yes, there are some christian extremist that do go way to far. www.landoverbaptist.org is an example.

I LOVE LANDOVER BAPTIST CHURCH!!!

i want the "Jesus was a Hippie" T-shirt!