The First Cause was not God.

[Sonofason]

Then that means all other Gods/Goddesses also exist because people experience Them and believe in Them.

God - A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe.
the sole Supreme Being , eternal, spiritual, and transcendent, who is the Creator and ruler of all and is infinite in all attributes.
god - definition of god by The Free Dictionary

There is only one God. There is only one perfect, omnipotent, omniscient Creator. There is only one perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe.

There can be only one Supreme Being.

 

[Disposable member]

God - A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe.
the sole Supreme Being , eternal, spiritual, and transcendent, who is the Creator and ruler of all and is infinite in all attributes.
god - definition of god by The Free Dictionary

There is only one God. There is only one perfect, omnipotent, omniscient Creator. There is only one perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe.

There can be only one Supreme Being.

Yes, we know you're able to regurgitate stale dogma. That's your opinion, though, and doesn't address your contradiction.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Lets address this. What are you talking about specifically? Are you invoking this with evolution? Because we have a pretty good idea of how we evolved all the way from a simple cell to now. Nothing else required. Abiogensis is something we are not sure of but it is possible and it is the best answer we currently have evidence for.

The big bang? We don't know what caused it but there is much disorder in the universe. Then onto the universe. Do you know how many stars there are in our own Galaxy? Roughly 300 Billion stars. Do you know that galaxies form clusters. Sometimes those clusters can form super-clusters with millions and billions of galaxes? And from there they form the observable universe which is structred in string like structures called galaxy filament.

The best estimate we have for the number of stars is 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars. That is a trillion trillion. And this is assumed to be a gross underestimation. At "least" this many.

For life to have started on Earth a phenomenal amount of "luck" must have happened. But the probability of it happening and it happening in other places is statistically likely.

Luck is not an answer.. more a cop out I think. It stops people seeing what is really going on. All things you speak of are processes... where do they come from? Luck again?!?

 

[Sonofason]

Yes, we know you're able to regurgitate stale dogma. That's your opinion, though, and doesn't address your contradiction.

I'd love to see you try to present the contradiction you're accusing me of making.

 

[Disposable member]

I'd love to see you try to present the contradiction you're accusing me of making.

You are saying that because many people experience the Christian god, then that's evidence for his existence. I mentioned that that also applies to all the other deities worshiped by humans, but you ignore it and just say that there's only one god.

You're not making sense. Your deity isn't the only player in town.

 

[Sonofason]

You are saying that because many people experience the Christian god, then that's evidence for his existence. I mentioned that that also applies to all the other deities worshiped by humans, but you ignore it and just say that there's only one god.

You're not making sense. Your deity isn't the only player in town.

There is only one existing deity capable of being worshiped. If indeed people who believe that they are worshiping a deity are actually worshiping a deity, then they must be worshiping the same deity, for there is only one God that can be worshiped, as there is only one God. That is not a contradiction.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

There is only one existing deity capable of being worshiped. If indeed people who believe that they are worshiping a deity are actually worshiping a deity, then they must be worshiping the same deity, for there is only one God that can be worshiped, as there is only one God. That is not a contradiction.

There is a contradiction since you're ignoring the spiritual experiences of people with other gods. Certainly, we're not all worshiping the same god. For example, if a person masturbates or is having sex as as an act of worship and communion with a sex/love God, they're certainly not worshiping the chaste, asexual Abrahamic deity!

 

[Ouroboros]

There is a contradiction since you're ignoring the spiritual experiences of people with other gods. Certainly, we're not all worshiping the same god. For example, if a person masturbates or is having sex as as an act of worship and communion with a sex/love God, they're certainly not worshiping the chaste, asexual Abrahamic deity!

Are you sure? Do you know what goes on behind the veils in the heavenly throne room?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Are you sure? Do you know what goes on behind the veils in the heavenly throne room?

Well, that's another topic. But we can only go by what is known about a deity. There is a history of sexually repressed Christian mystics having sexual encounters with Jesus and/or angels and even some male ascetics entering into gay marriages with him.

 

[Ouroboros]

Well, that's another topic. But we can only go by what is known about a deity. There is a history of sexually repressed Christian mystics having sexual encounters with Jesus and/or angels and even some male ascetics entering into gay marriages with him.

And I think the nuns actually are supposedly married to Jesus. Strange thought, isn't it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And I think the nuns actually are supposedly married to Jesus. Strange thought, isn't it.

Yes, they are. Plus, the entire Church is viewed as the Bride of Christ. There's a lot of sexual metaphors in liturgical Christianity. It's not a bad thing, either. The Song of Solomon is erotic poetry itself.

 

[Sonofason]

There is a contradiction since you're ignoring the spiritual experiences of people with other gods. Certainly, we're not all worshiping the same god. For example, if a person masturbates or is having sex as as an act of worship and communion with a sex/love God, they're certainly not worshiping the chaste, asexual Abrahamic deity!

Christianity believes that God Created the earth. Islam believes that Allah created the earth. Allah is the English transliteration of the Arabic word (الله) which in English means God.

Consider the following basic Islamic belief.
"The God of Islam is the God of all true prophets of God from Adam down to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. But it is a basic claim of the religion with which Muhammad came that previous religions (including Christianity and Judaism) have not been kept in their pristine form which those prophets advocated, but have been tampered with and distorted."

Many Christians believe the same thing about Islam, that Islam has misrepresenting God.

So in fact, it is not that we worship different Gods, but our particular beliefs about this one in the same God are different, even to the point of great conflict. Nevertheless, there is only One God. It's up to you to try to figure out for yourself the true characteristics of God, and which religion is closer to the truth with regard to this one existing God. Or, you can accept all of them if you choose, despite the contradictions, if any such contradictions should be found.

 

[Sonofason]

Christianity believes that God Created the earth. Islam believes that Allah created the earth. Allah is the English transliteration of the Arabic word (الله) which in English means God.

Consider the following basic Islamic belief.
"The God of Islam is the God of all true prophets of God from Adam down to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. But it is a basic claim of the religion with which Muhammad came that previous religions (including Christianity and Judaism) have not been kept in their pristine form which those prophets advocated, but have been tampered with and distorted."

Many Christians believe the same thing about Islam, that Islam is misrepresenting God.

So in fact, it is not that we worship different Gods, but our particular beliefs about this one in the same God are different, even to the point of great conflict. Nevertheless, there is only One God. It's up to you to try to figure out for yourself the true characteristics of God, and which religion is closer to the truth with regard to this one existing God. Or, you can accept all of them if you choose, despite the contradictions, if any such contradictions should be found.

 

[Sonofason]

There is a contradiction since you're ignoring the spiritual experiences of people with other gods. Certainly, we're not all worshiping the same god. For example, if a person masturbates or is having sex as as an act of worship and communion with a sex/love God, they're certainly not worshiping the chaste, asexual Abrahamic deity!

Christianity believes that God Created the earth. Islam believes that Allah created the earth. Allah is the English transliteration of the Arabic word (الله) which in English means God.

Consider the following basic Islamic belief.
"The God of Islam is the God of all true prophets of God from Adam down to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. But it is a basic claim of the religion with which Muhammad came that previous religions (including Christianity and Judaism) have not been kept in their pristine form which those prophets advocated, but have been tampered with and distorted."

Many Christians believe the same thing about Islam, that Islam is misrepresenting God.

So in fact, it is not that we worship different Gods, but our particular beliefs about this one in the same God are different, even to the point of great conflict. Nevertheless, there is only One God. It's up to you to try to figure out for yourself the true characteristics of God, and which religion is closer to the truth with regard to this one existing God. Or, you can accept all of them if you choose, despite the contradictions, if any such contradictions should be found.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Christianity believes that God Created the earth. Islam believes that Allah created the earth. Allah is the English transliteration of the Arabic word (الله) which in English means God.

Consider the following basic Islamic belief.
"The God of Islam is the God of all true prophets of God from Adam down to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. But it is a basic claim of the religion with which Muhammad came that previous religions (including Christianity and Judaism) have not been kept in their pristine form which those prophets advocated, but have been tampered with and distorted."

Many Christians believe the same thing about Islam, that Islam has misrepresenting God.

So in fact, it is not that we worship different Gods, but our particular beliefs about this one in the same God are different, even to the point of great conflict. Nevertheless, there is only One God. It's up to you to try to figure out for yourself the true characteristics of God, and which religion is closer to the truth with regard to this one existing God. Or, you can accept all of them if you choose, despite the contradictions, if any such contradictions should be found.

You just refuse to see that perspectives other than your own exist. I'm a polytheist, as are millions of other people on the planet. In my worldview, there is not just "one god". If we're all worshiping the same god, then this god is ridiculous and its personality and attributes are so all over the place as to be meaningless.

The Gods are real and distinct individual Beings. They are not aspects of a greater whole or any such other monotheistic notions. They are distinct individuals as you and I are. And they don't always get along. Some of them hate each other and some of them aren't exactly fans of humanity.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Why do people have to use words like that?

 

[Sonofason]

You just refuse to see that perspectives other than your own exist. I'm a polytheist, as are millions of other people on the planet. In my worldview, there is not just "one god". If we're all worshiping the same god, then this god is ridiculous and its personality and attributes are so all over the place as to be meaningless.

The Gods are real and distinct individual Beings. They are not aspects of a greater whole or any such other monotheistic notions. They are distinct individuals as you and I are. And they don't always get along. Some of them hate each other and some of them aren't exactly fans of humanity.

And your evidence for there being many gods? Please explain how you differentiate your gods.

 

[Sonofason]

You just refuse to see that perspectives other than your own exist. I'm a polytheist, as are millions of other people on the planet. In my worldview, there is not just "one god". If we're all worshiping the same god, then this god is ridiculous and its personality and attributes are so all over the place as to be meaningless.

The Gods are real and distinct individual Beings. They are not aspects of a greater whole or any such other monotheistic notions. They are distinct individuals as you and I are. And they don't always get along. Some of them hate each other and some of them aren't exactly fans of humanity.

Christianity has a fair explanation for your gods - fallen angels

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Christianity has a fair explanation for your gods - fallen angels

No, that's not a "fair explanation". It's slander and demonization and leads to cultural genocide. My Gods manifest Themselves through the various facets of life, Nature and the Cosmos.

 

[Sonofason]

No, that's not a "fair explanation". It's slander and demonization and leads to cultural genocide. My Gods manifest Themselves through the various facets of life, Nature and the Cosmos.

Lol, care to be a bit more specific?