The first creature could not have come into being by random chance. It is impossible.

[TagliatelliMonster]

Then how do you know that it ever happened or is even impossible without God?

The same way I know that I have great, great, great, great grandparents eventhough I never met them or know who they are, where they lived, what their names were or how old they became.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Yes, but the forum covers much more than just religious topics.

What? In the subforum of "Religious Debates" ?

Try "kitchen sink"..

 

[Subduction Zone]

What? In the subforum of "Religious Debates" ?

Try "kitchen sink"..

I can't help it if the religious cannot reason rationally.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

The same way I know that I have great, great, great, great grandparents eventhough I never met them or know who they are, where they lived, what their names were or how old they became.

But you have a lot to prove.
All my ancestors were people. That matches all observation.
According to you, your were not al people.
Prove it as it violates what is observed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But you have a lot to prove.
All my ancestors were people. That matches all observation.
According to you, your were not al people.
Prove it as it violates what is observed.

Not true. There are all sorts of observations that show that you are an ape that is descended from an ape. If you claim to be a human being you are claiming to be an ape too.

 

[John53]

But you have a lot to prove.
All my ancestors were people. That matches all observation.
According to you, your were not al people.
Prove it as it violates what is observed.

Observe the fossil record.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Observe the fossil record.

So you admit it has never been observed.
So prove your conjecture.

 

[John53]

So you admit it has never been observed.
So prove your conjecture.

I think you have a problem understanding the English language.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you admit it has never been observed.
So prove your conjecture.

We can observe the past using the fossil record just as you can look at your family's past using a photo album.

 

[muhammad_isa]

We can observe the past using the fossil record..

..along with theories of evo-devo and what not.

 

[muhammad_isa]

There are all sorts of observations that show that you are an ape that is descended from an ape..

Meaningless twaddle!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Meaningless twaddle!

Oh no, another denier of reality.

Now you deny that you cannot check out your own family history using a photo album.

 

[McBell]

Oh no, another denier of reality.

Now you deny that you cannot check out your own family history using a photo album.

Perhaps you triggered them because they do not have a family photo album to browse?

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Perhaps you triggered them because they do not have a family photo album to browse?

People only have people for parents and ancestors.
That is always observed and never not observed.
But evolutionists claim that the ancestors of people includes non people.
That is not science.
So evolutionist must PROVE your religious dogma.

 

[McBell]

People only have people for parents and ancestors.
That is always observed and never not observed.
But evolutionists claim that the ancestors of people includes non people.
That is not science.
So evolutionist must PROVE your religious dogma.

Your desperate attempt at dragging science down to your religions level is most comical.

 

[John53]

People only have people for parents and ancestors.
That is always observed and never not observed.
But evolutionists claim that the ancestors of people includes non people.
That is not science.
So evolutionist must PROVE your religious dogma.

The fossil record.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

The fossil record.

But all the millions of chains of missing links are all missing.

 

[McBell]

But all the millions of chains of missing links are all missing.

That is because once they are found, they are no longer missing.

Thus your missing link argument only makes you look ignorant and desperate.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

That is because once they are found, they are no longer missing.

Thus your missing link argument only makes you look ignorant and desperate.

No they are still missing because they have not been found.
There is no continuum of changing species but disparate species just like in the world today.
And if a worldwide flood happened today it would've the same fossil pattern.
And you would be fooled again.

 

[Eddi]

People only have people for parents and ancestors.
That is always observed and never not observed.
But evolutionists claim that the ancestors of people includes non people.
That is not science.
So evolutionist must PROVE your religious dogma.

A study of DNA reveals that humans have both non-human ancestors and also non-human relatives

Just as a study of DNA can tell if any one human is related to any other human

That is science

The denial of these facts is religious dogma of the lowest kind