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The first creature could not have come into being by random chance. It is impossible.

McBell

Unbound
No they are still missing because they have not been found.
There is no continuum of changing species but disparate species just like in the world today.
And if a worldwide flood happened today it would've the same fossil pattern.
And you would be fooled again.
And once they are found, they are no longer missing.

the rest of your above post is nothing more than you making bold empty claims in a sad attempt to support your previous bold empty claims.

Seems you have a rather difficult time understanding that adding empty to empty still ends up being empty.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Perhaps you triggered them because they do not have a family photo album to browse?
I laughed and then thought about it. Some Muslim sects are rather extreme and do not allow pictures:

People only have people for parents and ancestors.
That is always observed and never not observed.
But evolutionists claim that the ancestors of people includes non people.
That is not science.
So evolutionist must PROVE your religious dogma.
I need to remind you that you do not understand even the basics of science. A proper answer would be beyond your ken, and probably your barbie too.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No they are still missing because they have not been found.
There is no continuum of changing species but disparate species just like in the world today.
And if a worldwide flood happened today it would've the same fossil pattern.
And you would be fooled again.
No. A worldwide flood would only fossilize extent life, or life living at that time or at the most very recently dead. That would mean that there would be only one thin, and I mean just a few inches, layer of fossils all around the world with all life jumbled up in it. We would not observe the current fossil record because it has far far far too much life in it.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No. A worldwide flood would only fossilize extent life, or life living at that time or at the most very recently dead. That would mean that there would be only one thin, and I mean just a few inches, layer of fossils all around the world with all life jumbled up in it. We would not observe the current fossil record because it has far far far too much life in it.
No,
It would be many thousands of feet thick.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
..the first creature (i.e. God) came into being by random chance..
G-d is not a 'creature' by definition i.e. not created

G-d did not 'come into being' .. G-d is the ultimate reality, which cannot be
compared to the creation, and the true nature hidden from us .. purposely.
 

McBell

Unbound
G-d is not a 'creature' by definition i.e. not created

G-d did not 'come into being' .. G-d is the ultimate reality, which cannot be
compared to the creation, and the true nature hidden from us .. purposely.
Are you saying that no one knows anything about god because god wants it that way?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Since we really don't know how life came from non-life, we really can't say one way or the other if it is random or not.
Even if it was ("Even"?? Why did I put that for the most probably and rational answer?) by abiogenesis that does not mean that it was "Random". According to that belief the planets randomly orbit around the Sun. Snowflakes randomly form into objects with a random number of sides. I could claim that every naturalistic event was "random'. Scientists are beginning to get a fairly decent idea of how abiogenesis occurred since like those other events it is not random.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
But you have a lot to prove.
All my ancestors were people. That matches all observation.

Not all your ancestors were people. Before they were people they were apes.
And before they were apes, they were mammals.
And before they were mammals, they were tetrapods.
And before they were tetrapods, they were vertebrates.

And humans today still are apes, mammals, tetrapods and vertebrates.
So, every createure that ever lived, only produced more of its "kind".
No member of any species ever gave birth to a member of another species.
Yet not all your ancestors were humans.

Chew on that.



According to you, your were not al people.

According to the evidence.

Prove it as it violates what is observed.
It doesn't violate what is observed at all.
The genome tells the tale of our past.

The genome of any species carries with it an account of its history of the past 3.8 billion years.
And every one of these "history books" ends up in the same starting point, following the same branching routes.
A genome is the result of a gradual accumulation of mutations of what it took to survive at the time they became fixated in the genepool.

It's an incredible piece of data along with the process that explains it. Honestly, I find it sad for you that you have to miss out on it simply out of religious stubborness and the unwillingness to learn.
 
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