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The Frubal Free Market Failure and the Problems inherent in a socialised Frubal economy

The changes to the system have impacted me:

  • Positively

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • Negatively

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Neither positively nor negatively

    Votes: 13 61.9%
  • both positively and negatively

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Total voters
    21

blackout

Violet.
Frubals are forum assets, like all currency they have no value except the value members put on them, in this regard the system was capitalistic in nature.

I seem to recall you were quite irked when you felt your frubals were devalued by the new moneyed contigent, if they truly held no value to you why would you have been irritated?


You're right actually.

People brought unbacked frubals into a backed frubal system.

If frubals are not backed by the value of the posts they were given for...
what backs them?

I know,
people's imaginations.

It's all dumb anyway, and at this point, I actually think a non-numbered system
probably makes the most sense.
Just an alert that you have a comment.
 

You're right actually.

People brought unbacked frubals into a backed frubal system.

If frubals are not backed by the value of the posts they were given for...
what backs them?

I know,
people's imaginations.

It's all dumb anyway, and at this point, I actually think a non-numbered system
probably makes the most sense.
Just an alert that you have a comment.

I have always thought a comment only system was the fairest, but then, it would only be fair if all the frubal were abolished.
 
Anyone remember when you could buy things in the RF Store? Ah, the good old days....

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Effectively you bought this, or at least used your frubal count as collateral to assure the forum that you were worthy to be allowed have this.
 

croak

Trickster
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Effectively you bought this, or at least used your frubal count as collateral to assure the forum that you were worthy to be allowed have this.
That system was based on points of some sort, if I recall correctly. I could be wrong.

And I don't know if that signature requirement was around when I joined. Many changes. ;)
 

blackout

Violet.
I have always thought a comment only system was the fairest, but then, it would only be fair if all the frubal were abolished.

Well... a non numbered system ... wouldn't have any.. numbers.... right?

I WOULD be very ****** off though,
if all of my COMMENTS suddenly disappeared!

Come to think of it,
if you want a frubal count that reflects anything "real" and "quantifiable",
it would be one frubal for each comment,
with a reset,
that also reflected
the ACTUAL TOTAL NUMBER of comments
of each older member.

That way every count number
of every member
simply reflects the exact number of comments
they have received
since the time they first joined.


simple.
 

Well... a non numbered system ... wouldn't have any.. numbers.... right?

I WOULD be very ****** off though,
if all of my COMMENTS suddenly disappeared!

Come to think of it,
if you want a frubal count that reflects anything "real" and "quantifiable",
it would be one frubal for each comment,
with a reset,
that also reflected
the ACTUAL TOTAL NUMBER of comments
of each older member.

That way every count number
of every member
simply reflects the exact number of comments
they have received
since the time they first joined.


simple.

I doubt that is possible, or at least practical. I think you would have to manually reset each past frubal for each member :yikes: it would still be a system whereby value was placed on frubals, I mean if I get 10 ''lol''s is that 10 times more valuable than 1 ''interesting post'' or if someone has been her since 2006 are they more ''worthy'' than someone who has just joined?
 

blackout

Violet.
I doubt that is possible, or at least practical. I think you would have to manually reset each past frubal for each member :yikes: it would still be a system whereby value was placed on frubals, I mean if I get 10 ''lol''s is that 10 times more valuable than 1 ''interesting post'' or if someone has been her since 2006 are they more ''worthy'' than someone who has just joined?

Well if abolishing my comments is necessary to resetting the frubal count,
then I would oppose it,
because there is VERY REAL and meaningful importance in the comments.
At least for me.

My frubal comments are of great worth to me.

They're not just some **** numbers up in the corner,
they are WORDS of appreciation, laughter, and even love
written to ME.


The numbers do NOT reflect WORTH.

Even an LOL frubal comment though,
can link me back to a MEMORY
of something that was funny
that I shared
with someone I care about.


EDIT: I was just saying before that one number for each post,
literally turns the frubal number into a "Counter".
Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
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blackout

Violet.
So anyway, whatever, as I said,
just do away with the damned numbers,
but leave my comments alone.


If it can't be done?

Just leave it alone.


Either way... numbers or not... I still can't get affordable health care,
so who cares.
 

blackout

Violet.
When I die an early death,
(from lack of health care)

you may cremate my frubals,
and give them to Nanda or Ronnie. :(
 
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Well if abolishing my comments is necessary to resetting the frubal count,
then I would oppose it,
because there is VERY REAL and meaningful importance in the comments.
At least for me.

My frubal comments are of great worth to me.

They're not just some **** numbers up in the corner,
they are WORDS of appreciation, laughter, and even love
written to ME.


The numbers do NOT reflect WORTH.

Even an LOL frubal comment though,
can link me back to a MEMORY
of something that was funny
that I shared
with someone I care about.


EDIT: I was just saying before that one number for each post,
literally turns the frubal number into a "Counter".
Nothing more. Nothing less.

I agree with you the comments are the important thing. But I think the numbers could be gotten rid of, if the will was there to do it, at the very least the numbers could be made invisible to everyone which would be much the same thing. Oddly there are members with negative frubals on the board (not active members) so at some point there must have been negative fruballing :eek: I'm glad I wasn't around for that one :D I hope eo doesn't read this, that would give him nightmares :biglaugh:

I just think it's horrible for the new members the way it is at the moment, much as I find being thrust into the grips of communism hilarious :D
 
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Renji

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure you left a respectable amount of time between orgy posts to make this claim :p

It's just for fun.:D Frubals are the fun part of this forum, but even without it, the forum would still be active. I just post on any thread when I find it interesting. Who could have thought that the expression "Frubal me" could make a thread and a lot of posts, then share a lot of fun.
 
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dust1n

Zindīq
They took your ribbons! :hug:

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Yah! It look kind of like that, but I had 5 of every color.

After I got every medal possible, there wasn't even really a point to frubals anymore. I had accomplished all that could be accomplished. They took it away from me and than made it impossible for me to ever get it back. :(
 

Smoke

Done here.
The old system used to have some merit, I think, in that the opinions those like Sunstone and GreenGaia who had established themselves as members and as people who had made positive contributions had greater "frubal power." But in the long term it had an inflationary quality that grew ridiculous, where "welcome to RF" frubals earned a new member more frubals than, say, Sunstone had after his first year here. And then the whole "frubal orgy" game just made the whole thing completely meaningless, and frubals didn't indicate anything at all about the quality of anybody's contributions to RF. So I like the new system much better. I'm glad they changed it before it got to the point where the software had to accommodate trillions and quadrillions of frubals that had no meaning and didn't indicate anything at all about positive contributions to the forums.

However I do think it's unfair to the new people that many of us are sitting on great piles of frubals that were earned far more easily than they will ever earn them. I wish there could be found a simple way to apply the new rule retroactively, so that we each have one frubal for each frubal occasion. I guess that would be complicated, though.

Personally, I don't care about the numbers. I enjoy getting frubals, but it's the fact that somebody thinks I made a good contribution -- and quite often it's who thinks so -- that's gratifying to me. So I can get along fine with just about any method of calculation, and the change doesn't really affect me. But I do think it was a good change.

I don't understand why one system is being called "socialist" and the other "free market," though. Unless it's because in politics, people who claim to support "free markets" actually tend to favor subsidies for the wealthy.
 
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