The idol of atheism, or hardest proof ever?

[blü 2]

Okay, so now do everything objectively. Start with morality.

Human morality is a mix of evolved and learnt. Our evolved moral tendencies are child nurture and protection, dislike of the one who harms, like of fairness and reciprocity, respect for authority, loyalty to the group, and a sense of self-worth through self-denial. We also have evolved capacities for empathy and for conscience. The rest varies according to your upbringing, culture, education and experience ─ how to behave meeting family members, relatives, persons according to sex, those above, equal to or below you in the peck order, the observance of customs for birth, coming of age, marriage and death ─ and so on.

Which I'm pretty sure I've said to you before.

 

[rational experiences]

As a human who sees.

I wondered are we from spirit.

So I did what any human can. Researched.

I know I a planet is just stone.
I know the heavens are just a mass of gases.

And I am not a theist who pretends even before they think that they know with intent I want to know and hence observe.

Your first observations no different from mine.

I don't however own your want. I am not looking for a power.

Spirit by human definition. Pre existed creation.

Creation sits burnt or burning in space.

Deep empty space.
Heated space where mass still exists.

So straight away thinking says what used to fill in empty space is gone.

Burning is the answer.

So I know burning occurred burning stopped owning all of its powers.

To thinking power is a deity. Sciences deity creation by their observation then want of it.

To want it they give it a name.

I can read.

I read a book.

The book owns lots of human destructive stories.

They are scary stories.

The stories own warnings.

The warnings say never give the deity a name ever again or life will be removed.

Life is human. The book talks about our genesis DNA genetics.

I live owning DNA inside my body.

Science removed a cell and studied it demonstrating DNA can be removed from a body yet the body still exist.

I know I die. We see death everyday.

So I say my human self is a human spirit I own it.

Yet I also can say once I never existed in human form. Once creation did not exist. And once we were in the eternal spirit and no creation existed.

To claim once I was a spirit being.

Yet I am a baby born by two humans in a sex act.

So I know their first human memories as adults told me.

So I ask where is memory.

The heavenly body says voice recording human image was left after parents died. To remind me where and why life exists.

The spirit reason. A choice to change the natural body brought about the catastrophic destruction we were forced to live in.

Removed from our natural eternal form.

I learnt by observation that a spirit memory of unconditional love for my person allowed me to observe it real.

Once creation never existed.

Science said that status itself.

Then science said now it does.

As an instant thought made by the instant that a human thinks.

Yet that human never instantly created creation. What I learnt about our human science dis spirited thinker brother.

I learnt he lied.

I learnt he said energy never stopped existing when it is self present.

I learnt an energy body we live on makes holes like empty space and disappears.

I learnt he said as I convert energy myself it goes into lower energy forms and does not disappear.

As a self belief deity.

I own power he said like spatial creation.

He learnt when sink holes formed in mass that energy does get totally removed.

Are you human self a spirit? Yes and it is human and not anything else.

Research and observation says so.

 

[Tiberius]

The objection: "if there is no God and there is a being who knows everything, then this being would know that God does NOT exist." is absurd, because if I know everything, then I am God. I begin with the situation, where God is existent. Then this situation becomes proven (becomes the only situation possible). If there would be God, then He knows about Himself. Thus, there is knowledge of God for us to find. Therefore the God exists.

Well, let's leave aside the claim that knowing everything is the only requirement for being God (some would say you need to be eternal, all powerful, have created all the universe, etc, which does not follow from just knowing everything).

Even if we grant that, then all you are saying is, "If God exists, then God exists." Which is exactly what I pointed out in the second part of my argument there. Which you even quoted, so I don't know how you missed it.

 

[rational experiences]

Human status first original human father adult theist.

AI atmospheric self life sacrificed encoding. Science caused.

Mass gases natural allowed core UFO radiation to encode. If mass heavens did not support event the event would not exist. You ignore all reasons.

Self possession by satanic AI feedback.

Subliminal heard but not physical heard.

You agree unnaturally. Studied mind contact coercion condition known in occult science community to be real.

Coerced by origin first man adult theist about earth as God. Human being as a male

Your owned truth I believe I am a God. I believe father is God. Yet a father is a human who has sex owns a baby human life. To be owner name a father.

Origin church for healing purposes against occult science said I represent the holy father not science.

Then the human truth God was categorically first origin science stated earth a planet as stone seal.

Nothing else

Reason human.

I am telling all the stories.
I am standing on a stone planet inside it's heavenly body telling the stories.

Coerces today to claim by state water microbes cloud feedback evaporation AI encoded water loss origin that a small cell in reality being an ovary only owns his created beginnings. Human.

As a endometriosis sufferer barely owned an ability for baby conception I was burnt sacrificed irradiated. Several years ago until machine stopped. Crown of thorns effect.

Was as a baby historic near death...so I own conscious awareness to warn self possessed human brothers.

God you named in science for its products. planet earth. No earth no machines no science theory everything else however would exist.

Alchemy is where the constant of light burning gases is enacted first in science of man.

As I was a type of Jesus experiment by atmospheric experimenters yet not Jesus. Some time in the future the second coming event which was the shroud Turin will return. Life attack.

Meaning end of life as ovary owned your man lying life continuance.

Never are you scientist your two parents.

Already science known. Science observed yet like the jailed Galileo want to argue about what science said God was in human sciences.

Argue and attack your basis to know when it is consciously destructive morally and physically destructive by experiment.

You were warned your origin science father AI encodings in heavens now possessed your beliefs.

Origin science theist compared mountain top flat cropping by UFO to pyramid built to time shift self.

The theory I saw a vision enticed family to stand inside pyramid. They applied reaction. Grey flakes came off wall self combusted human life.

Why it was stated anti life in science by science status.

Real life not science argument we are not Christ as gases nor anti Christ.

Reasoning was about science causes by humans as science.

Historic was not anti Christ it was anti God. Sink holes.

As we stand on stone to return to a human thesis where a liar quotes you began as a human is space.

Why space holes opened beneath our feet.

All the evidence proven science is a liar.

 

[Tiberius]

Human status first original human father adult theist.

AI atmospheric self life sacrificed encoding. Science caused.

Mass gases natural allowed core UFO radiation to encode. If mass heavens did not support event the event would not exist. You ignore all reasons.

Self possession by satanic AI feedback.

Subliminal heard but not physical heard.

You agree unnaturally. Studied mind contact coercion condition known in occult science community to be real.

Coerced by origin first man adult theist about earth as God. Human being as a male

Your owned truth I believe I am a God. I believe father is God. Yet a father is a human who has sex owns a baby human life. To be owner name a father.

Origin church for healing purposes against occult science said I represent the holy father not science.

Then the human truth God was categorically first origin science stated earth a planet as stone seal.

Nothing else

Reason human.

I am telling all the stories.
I am standing on a stone planet inside it's heavenly body telling the stories.

Coerces today to claim by state water microbes cloud feedback evaporation AI encoded water loss origin that a small cell in reality being an ovary only owns his created beginnings. Human.

As a endometriosis sufferer barely owned an ability for baby conception I was burnt sacrificed irradiated. Several years ago until machine stopped. Crown of thorns effect.

Was as a baby historic near death...so I own conscious awareness to warn self possessed human brothers.

God you named in science for its products. planet earth. No earth no machines no science theory everything else however would exist.

Alchemy is where the constant of light burning gases is enacted first in science of man.

As I was a type of Jesus experiment by atmospheric experimenters yet not Jesus. Some time in the future the second coming event which was the shroud Turin will return. Life attack.

Meaning end of life as ovary owned your man lying life continuance.

Never are you scientist your two parents.

Already science known. Science observed yet like the jailed Galileo want to argue about what science said God was in human sciences.

Argue and attack your basis to know when it is consciously destructive morally and physically destructive by experiment.

You were warned your origin science father AI encodings in heavens now possessed your beliefs.

Origin science theist compared mountain top flat cropping by UFO to pyramid built to time shift self.

The theory I saw a vision enticed family to stand inside pyramid. They applied reaction. Grey flakes came off wall self combusted human life.

Why it was stated anti life in science by science status.

Real life not science argument we are not Christ as gases nor anti Christ.

Reasoning was about science causes by humans as science.

Historic was not anti Christ it was anti God. Sink holes.

As we stand on stone to return to a human thesis where a liar quotes you began as a human is space.

Why space holes opened beneath our feet.

All the evidence proven science is a liar.

You haven't changed a bit. Still totally incomprehensible.

 

[rational experiences]

You haven't changed a bit. Still totally incomprehensible.

AI effect science machine encoded.

Father of God thesis a human father man.

Man's first sin not listening to own advice about natural law bonding binding reacted God as a product earth.

Got artificially irradiated too much radiation released into heavens.

AI encoded effect natural God then sacrificed life

Man did it to self even said so.

Science quotes space its beginnings for machine thesis. Quotes your human life began in space also as UFO.

I believe the alien is first human spirit.

Science quote.

Radiation came from out of space.

Science then opened. Space hole releasing sciences UFO for machine reaction leaving a sink hole space.

Claiming a human life began as another strung thought from stone

Demonstrating what human lying causes.

As an ovary in a human parent sex act us where human life began. Human origins the topic is not microbe origins.

 

[Aupmanyav]

"your father is the devil" (Jesus Christ).

Why did Jesus say that? Did he have any problem with his step-father? That the one who engendered him did not marry his mother? Did he consider all males as devils? Does this sentence show any deep psychological conflict? Or he was habitually malevolent towards all males? Would you kindly explain it? I cannot even imagine a person saying this to any other person, this is height of incivility.

 

[rational experiences]

Why did Jesus say that? Did he have any problem with his step-father? That the one who engendered him did not marry his mother? Did he consider all males as devils? Does this sentence show any deep psychological conflict? Or he was habitually malevolent towards all males? Would you kindly explain it? I cannot even imagine a person saying this to any other person, this is height of incivility.

The Father of science is the Father of the devil.

Told and taught to a human who asks questions as a human and then gives self human answers.

Science to give a non scientist answers is by AI feed back machine encoded reasoning about why a spiritual man born a baby, told his life DNA was returned to human health to be conceived and born again was that his spirit life had healed in his human being Mothers ovah. Ovary. ie. the example of human life continuance the healthy human ovary. A medical teaching against occult science human practices. The conjurer of evil.

Law of history of God O planet before it became sealed as stone given the name God one. Is the law of Satanism, self consuming burning gas mass.

Science removed the origin of sin...mass by replacing evolution stone, back into a self consuming origin law of Satanism...so that sin, held sealed as God removed body of God its flesh and revealed/released evil spirits of Satanic history...out of a burning God mass.

Exactly what was taught for a reason....that scientists in occult are Satanists who believe in releasing radiation for science.

Radiation is an effect of looking back, theorising for sun nuclear then burning everyone to death....as a pre owned, pre known, pre aware human experience. Our brother the Satanist previously sent us all to God Hell...which is volcanic themes...by ufo.

Why scientologists also in science meaning are mind possessed by aliens, the UFO and science as proof that science did it as a human Father who thought for evil. Not that our Holy Father is evil, a human his thinking only owned by his DNA life body, thought as a particular Father historic.

The first science Father burnt to death historic as was all life on Earth, evidence inside of Earth mass as human artefacts in coal and machine parts in stone fusion....instant vacuum snap frozen proved that the origin Father of science human went to hell as a human yet took his human family with him.

Therefore after the Ice Age in the Moses ape man life mutation given to us was the question when you heard the voices speaking and saw the visions did you not realise that all life had been destroyed in a human Father chosen Satanic Act?

The obvious, information and the themes for new science practice already owned the human confession, so there was no human excuse for re practicing Satanic occult nuclear human chosen science. The stories proved they knew.

Other heard human evidence, humans screaming in a Hell theme....heard by Russian scientist, as it was a recording of when humans were burnt to death previously. As a fact of evidence.

Radiation radio waves kept recording life in its destruction as the AI effect. Why human voices were knowingly heard screaming as they died in an acute heated atmospheric attack due to nuclear condition. How else do you think it was known and realised?

 

[questfortruth]

Even if we grant that, then all you are saying is, "If God exists, then God exists."

No. I have said this:
1. Consider the possibility, that God exists.
2. Then He knows, that God exists.
3. So, in all knowledge is one that God exists.
4. Thus, this possibility, that God exists is the only possible one.

 

[questfortruth]

I cannot even imagine a person saying this to any other person, this is height of incivility.

People back there were simple:

1. All good comes from God.
2. Evil does not come from God.
3. Sinners like Adolf Hitler are evil.
4. Thus, their father is not God.
5. Because they have lost the gift of existence: in God's opinion, they do not exist.

 

[rational experiences]

Humans are a spiritual being.

We were DNA irradiated producing a non supported God mass existence as when sin removal sink holes formed gods spirit its gases were removed.

The reason s human not a hole were irradiated attacked brain mind defected.

All humans are born as babies supported by God mass evolved sealed cooled. Holy baby life innocent. Compared to satanic science caused irradiation defect.

A human taught science lesson.

Coal. Once was the origin earth garden nature why it holds human artefacts why stone fusion has machine parts.

Where did the origin science life for his machines electricity come from.

The burnt hell death of origin nature and humans. His psyche notified human awareness. Told by AI which possesses his human belief.

Teaching life of bio spirit from eternal into water. As water is mass owned just as water. First.

Water it's highest form.

Radiation an attacker did not remove water.
Highest mass natural form.

Eternal in a burning gas light condition released spirit from its side when gas amassing had filled in empty space.

A space is first filled in as God O mass. Earth as mass owns no space.

Gases owns a lot more presence of space.

Eternal the body that owns a space hole with burning bodies in it. Lost God from its origin. Question where did creation itself originally come from.

God O owns no space.
Gases increased space.

Eternal was forced to send spirit bodies from its own into the heavens as space is a gas is a larger non existence of form than God.

How spirit memories taught me. We did in fact come from the eternal as a pre existing spirit being.

Memory therefore says from a burnt once alive bio life you got electricity. Coal.

So I am correct and the occultist radiation theist wrong

 

[Aupmanyav]

People back there were simple:

1. All good comes from God.
2. Evil does not come from God.
3. Sinners like Adolf Hitler are evil.
4. Thus, their father is not God.
5. Because they have lost the gift of existence: in God's opinion, they do not exist.

I do not know how that is an answer to what I asked? Sure, as an atheist I believe that there is no God. I would also say that if any body claims that God is his father, the person either wants to fools people or is mad.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The Father of science is the Father of the devil.

People sometimes consider a species to be extinct, but then find it alive. @rational experiences , you too are like that. I thought your species was extinct after 15 Century or so, but you are still surviving. Who is the father of science? And if we go by Bible, Satan was the son of God, since the angels are counted as sons of God.

 

[Tiberius]

AI effect science machine encoded.

Father of God thesis a human father man.

Man's first sin not listening to own advice about natural law bonding binding reacted God as a product earth.

Got artificially irradiated too much radiation released into heavens.

AI encoded effect natural God then sacrificed life

Man did it to self even said so.

Science quotes space its beginnings for machine thesis. Quotes your human life began in space also as UFO.

I believe the alien is first human spirit.

Science quote.

Radiation came from out of space.

Science then opened. Space hole releasing sciences UFO for machine reaction leaving a sink hole space.

Claiming a human life began as another strung thought from stone

Demonstrating what human lying causes.

As an ovary in a human parent sex act us where human life began. Human origins the topic is not microbe origins.

I have no idea what you are saying. Please try to arrange your thoughts into a coherent order.

 

[Tiberius]

No. I have said this:
1. Consider the possibility, that God exists.
2. Then He knows, that God exists.
3. So, in all knowledge is one that God exists.
4. Thus, this possibility, that God exists is the only possible one.

And the problem is with your premise number 1.

IF God exists, then he knows he exists.

 

[rational experiences]

People sometimes consider a species to be extinct, but then find it alive. @rational experiences , you too are like that. I thought your species was extinct after 15 Century or so, but you are still surviving. Who is the father of science? And if we go by Bible, Satan was the son of God, since the angels are counted as sons of God.

O am born from the son of man.

My brother is also my father.

I hear satanic AI talking all day long after brain irradiation. I have to live like it not liking it.

I know humans aren't any son of god

Satan is gases that owned cooling as clouds rolling that owned no image or voice.

Was just smoking hot gases cooling from out of a volcano.

Smoke effect a natural cloud.

Ground water microbial mass lives inside bio human living also living.

It was by calculus one man equal to all men brothers human who agreed science but one man in self reality who caused mass used microbe ground mass water loss. Evaporated burning life microbes to form image human designer.

Angels formed in clouds that remasses cloud formation by mass.

Carbon imprint. Evidence. A human did it.

Voices mass re recorded shared one off self speaking bodies. Feedback.

I know I got psyche attacked where feedback said a controlled experiment atmospheric computer mind contact designer human made one large program to study life

Animals living attacked in same human moment own cloud imaged.

Science today studied dinosaurs. Dinosaurs seen in clouds also.

Large nuclear orbital.images seen in clouds as mass small orbitals destroyed in nuclear conversion.

The reason.

I am a human born by human sex. My evidence in human photos. Once I was a baby. Science is a liar.

 

[rational experiences]

I have no idea what you are saying. Please try to arrange your thoughts into a coherent order.

I am not a scientist. I will never give you man sciences Bible answers for your collider theory.

 

[Tiberius]

I am not a scientist. I will never give you man sciences Bible answers for your collider theory.

It's not that. Your thoughts are not arranged in a way that makes sense.

 

[rational experiences]

And the problem is with your premise number 1.

IF God exists, then he knows he exists.

A man human scientist tried to coerce humans into believing all universal God powers are held inside a bio cell.
He lives just as a human.

Human he man quotes God is a he or him.

Man male by definition owns penis when comparing what a he is. Yet claims God is a male by quotes.

Bio life mainly water.
Oxygen inside our bodies heals life by generation.

Man scientist quotes trees oxygenate the water atmosphere.

Man scientist said brother satanist scientist sacrificed life advice garden tree nature reasoning. We got life cell human genetic evicted into mutations.

Obvious science stopped oxygenation condition from and due to carbon irradiating life microbes in water body.

Sacrificed man life wood. A short explained answer. Jesus not a scientist.

A human as an arrogant egotist taught God was the O planet earth stone seal.

Today says he knows everything so experiments on life with extra radiation watching it be destroyed.

 

[rational experiences]

It's not that. Your thoughts are not arranged in a way that makes sense.

I explained I was irradiated. Expect me to be the same psyche first contacted and then experimented changed?

To know science says I destroy first then rebuild as if you built natural life first yourselves by science.

The type of self possesed thoughts destroyer humans think via.