The idol of atheism, or hardest proof ever?

[mikkel_the_dane]

The objective evidence? It's all around you. Start with a mirror to affirm that you indeed objectively exist, even though the mirror can't change the internal / external way things are.

Human morality is a mix of evolved and learnt. Our evolved moral tendencies are child nurture and protection, dislike of the one who harms, like of fairness and reciprocity, respect for authority, loyalty to the group, and a sense of self-worth through self-denial. We also have evolved capacities for empathy and for conscience. The rest varies according to your upbringing, culture, education and experience ─ how to behave meeting family members, relatives, persons according to sex, those above, equal to or below you in the peck order, the observance of customs for birth, coming of age, marriage and death ─ and so on.

Which I'm pretty sure I've said to you before.

You: You, Mikkel, objectively exist.
Me: No, not in all senses.

That is the actual falsification, because I can only in effect answer "No, not in all senses" if a part of me is subjective. That, there are people, who don't understand that, means, they are unreasonable, irrational and not sane. Well, they are not that, but that is their own standard. They all with variants end the same place for what they claim: We as a special group of humans are so special, because we don't have to doubt our own thinking. We just demand that everybody else doubt their thinking, but not ours, because we are special.

Well, I have been around that kind for over 20+ years now and they all fail in practice when it comes to a certain variant of subjectivity. They as a group are are functionally unable to understand the different variants of how a we work and treat all variants as the same.

We are all subject to e.g. gravity.
We are all capable of doing logic.
We are the source of all variants of correct for all human behavior as it matters to us.
We are not subjective.
We are living in the objective, real, material and so on reality and you are not.

And no, I am not speaking of you. Because you are special, because you are in all senses of the word objective, that subjectively matters, objective. That is how special you are.

So, if I am honest, you are not that special and neither am I. I have just learned to make objective falsifiable and do the actual falsification of it. If you are subjective, it means, that I can do it differently in practice and so can you do it differently, including that you can subjectively claim that you are objective and I am not. That is it.

 

[questfortruth]

And the problem is with your premise number 1.

IF God exists, then he knows he exists.

No. There is no word IF. I used the word CONSIDER. Do not put words in my mouth. And I have no PREMISES. I Have 100 % sure proof. The proof even a non-educated skeptic gets.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No. There is no word IF. I used the word CONSIDER. Do not put words in my mouth.

If I consider that you don't exist, it means that you don't exist, because all I have to do, is to consider that you don't exist, therefore you don't exist.

Your trick is simple. I consider something, therefore it is so independent of that I consider it. So I know that you don't exist.

 

[Tiberius]

A man human scientist tried to coerce humans into believing all universal God powers are held inside a bio cell.
He lives just as a human.

Human he man quotes God is a he or him.

Man male by definition owns penis when comparing what a he is. Yet claims God is a male by quotes.

Bio life mainly water.
Oxygen inside our bodies heals life by generation.

Man scientist quotes trees oxygenate the water atmosphere.

Man scientist said brother satanist scientist sacrificed life advice garden tree nature reasoning. We got life cell human genetic evicted into mutations.

Obvious science stopped oxygenation condition from and due to carbon irradiating life microbes in water body.

Sacrificed man life wood. A short explained answer. Jesus not a scientist.

A human as an arrogant egotist taught God was the O planet earth stone seal.

Today says he knows everything so experiments on life with extra radiation watching it be destroyed.

I'm sorry, but what you say makes no sense. Your posts appear to be just random words strung together.

 

[Tiberius]

I explained I was irradiated. Expect me to be the same psyche first contacted and then experimented changed?

To know science says I destroy first then rebuild as if you built natural life first yourselves by science.

The type of self possesed thoughts destroyer humans think via.

Please try harder to make sure your posts are coherent. I know you can do it, I've seen you do it before.

 

[Tiberius]

No. There is no word IF. I used the word CONSIDER. Do not put words in my mouth. And I have no PREMISES. I Have 100 % sure proof. The proof even a non-educated skeptic gets.

And where is your proof?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

And where is your proof?

Well, it is easy. If I consider something, it is so independent of that I consider it. Don't you get that?

 

[questfortruth]

And where is your proof?

I like word IF, it is not from satan and it is often used in proofs: If some being gets to know all, then he will get to know, that God exists. Thus, God exists.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

If some being gets to know all, then he will get to know, that God exists. Thus, God exists.

So what is my given birthname? If you don't know, you don't know that God exists, because you don't know all there is to know about that world. This is just one example BTW. You don't know all, so you don't know, that God exists.

 

[questfortruth]

I'm sorry, but what you say makes no sense. Your posts appear to be just random words strung together.

And where is your proof?

So what is my given birthname? If you don't know, you don't know that God exists, because you don't know all there is to know about that world. This is just one example BTW. You don't know all, so you don't know,
that God exists.

But I can use word WHEN: When you get educated enough, you will become theist. Because God is theist.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

But I can use word WHEN: When you get educated enough, you will become theist. Because God is theist.

Well, When you get educated enough, you will become a skeptic, because God is in practice a belief. As long as you think, I must think as you do, I can do that.
You don't think like me, so you are not with God. That works both ways, but you think it only works for you.

 

[questfortruth]

When you get educated enough, you will become a skeptic

No. The skeptic doubts everything, so he has zero knowledge. "I think, therefore I am" (Descartes) - from the first does not follow the second, because Lucifer has lost the existence (in God's opinion).

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No. The skeptic doubts everything, so he has zero knowledge.

Well, no! Because if I doubt everything, I know one thing. Namely that I doubt.

 

[questfortruth]

Well, no! Because if I doubt everything, I know one thing. Namely that I doubt.

No. "I think, therefore I am" (Descartes) - from the first does not follow the second, because Lucifer has lost the existence (in God's opinion).

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No. "I think, therefore I am" (Descartes) - from the first does not follow the second, because Lucifer has lost the existence (in God's opinion).

Well, I am Lucifer in that case.

 

[questfortruth]

Well, I am Lucifer in that case.

There is no Lucifer in 2021 AD, only satan.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

There is no Lucifer in 2021 AD, only satan.

That I am Satan.

 

[questfortruth]

That I am Satan.

No, just a satanist.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, just a satanist.

And that is from God, since everything is from God.

 

[questfortruth]

And that is from God, since everything is from God.

All that exists is from God.
All, that does not exist, is from satan. He is called "fiction-monger".