The Illusion of Maya

[Fool]

is the illusion of forms a negative or positive for you?


personally i like the myriad displays of god, or the universe in its ever changing kaleidoscope of colors shapes, and emanations. all displaying the infinite


the greatest show!!!!

 

[SalixIncendium]

For me, it's neither positive nor negative; it is an experience.

 

[Martin]

Is Maya considered to be a purely personal illusion (fabrication?), or can it have a collective dimension, like a shared illusion?

 

[Fool]

Is Maya considered to be a purely personal illusion (fabrication?), or can it have a collective dimension, like a shared illusion?

Certainly, he would.
And if they were in the habit of conferring honours among themselves on those who were quickest to observe the passing shadows and to remark which of them went before, and which followed after, and which were together; and who were therefore best able to draw conclusions as to the future, do you think that he would care for such honours and glories, or envy the possessors of them? Would he not say with Homer,

Better to be the poor servant of a poor master, and to endure anything, rather than think as they do and live after their manner?

Yes, he said, I think that he would rather suffer anything than entertain these false notions and live in this miserable manner.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Is Maya considered to be a purely personal illusion (fabrication?), or can it have a collective dimension, like a shared illusion?

When I say that maya is illusory, I don't mean that what we experience is merely human imagination. Maya is Avidya (untrue knowledge). To say Maya is an illusion is is not to say it is unreal, but a that is not what it appears, it is mutable and constantly being made. It deceives the person and veils Vidya (true knowledge).

 

[Aupmanyav]

is the illusion of forms a negative or positive for you?
personally i like the myriad displays of god, or the universe in its ever changing kaleidoscope of colors shapes, and emanations. all displaying the infinite
the greatest show!!!!

Show is but illusion. Reality is what it is, neither negative nor positive. Yeah, kaleidoscope displays are interesting.

 

[ChristineM]

When i saw this thread i assumed if was discussing the Maya 3D graphics animation program that you know and love the illusions it creates, including Monsters, Inc., The Matrix, Spider-Man, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Avatar, Finding Nemo, Up, Hugo, Rango, Frozen... and much more.


But i am once again wrong so I'll step out of here.

 

[j1i]

is the illusion of forms a negative or positive for you?


personally i like the myriad displays of god, or the universe in its ever changing kaleidoscope of colors shapes, and emanations. all displaying the infinite


the greatest show!!!!

The Mayan civilization had disappeared and did not know how to practice its religious rites properly
We only know some perceptions of scientists trying to understand their habits and practices

no answer but

The presence of statues shows they fall into the trap of wanting to worship for physical objects
Therefore it is negative for me Muslim

 

[Aupmanyav]

Not just statues, but all things that other people like are prohibited in Islam, games, music, wine, films, poetry, novels, stories. Remember Allah and his Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa salaam) every moment of your life. Very focused.

 

[Martin]

When I say that maya is illusory, I don't mean that what we experience is merely human imagination. Maya is Avidya (untrue knowledge). To say Maya is an illusion is is not to say it is unreal, but a that is not what it appears, it is mutable and constantly being made. It deceives the person and veils Vidya (true knowledge).

So everything is in a state of perpetual change, including our own mind?

 

[SalixIncendium]

So everything is in a state of perpetual change, including our own mind?

That's been my observation.

 

[Martin]

That's been my observation.

I've been trying to work out who or what is observing these things.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I've been trying to work out who or what is observing these things.

And coming back full circle, that's where meditation on neti neti is helpful.

 

[Martin]

And coming back full circle, that's where meditation on neti neti is helpful.

Indeed. It's like there is a stillness beneath the movement, a different kind of knowing... Or something! Fascinating stuff.

 

[George-ananda]

personally i like the myriad displays of god, or the universe in its ever changing kaleidoscope of colors shapes, and emanations. all displaying the infinite


the greatest show!!!!

RIGHT! That's why Brahman plays the game!!

 

[j1i]

Not just statues, but all things that other people like are prohibited in Islam, games, music, wine, films, poetry, novels, stories. Remember Allah and his Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa salaam) every moment of your life. Very focused.

those are accepted in islam
games, music, , films, poetry, novels, stories.

forbidden in buhhdasim and Judaism (alcohol)
wine

Islam observes the moral aspects no more

As for practices, everyone can break down barriers
I just have to alert you that this is an honorable act, an immoral and dishonest act.
who does good will find it, and who does evil will find it
I mean, I am not a tool to hold people accountable and censored
I am on the process of educating and expressing opinions as a consultant

I am for communication and clarification, then for (GOD) Allah to hold you accountable for what you have done

 

[Vinayaka]

That's been my observation.

Mine too. Maya, in one take, simply means temporal, whereas ultimate reality is permanent.

 

[Aupmanyav]

those are accepted in islam
games, music, films, poetry, novels, stories.

No, they are not, they are an abomination if you do not remember Allah and his Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa salaam) every moment of your life. No beautification of the body for men or women. There are umpteen fatāwā all over the world and internet on that. Do you comb your hair? What is the need? You could spend that time in remembering Allah and probably gain his mercy.

 

[Fool]

Mine too. Maya, in one take, simply means temporal, whereas ultimate reality is permanent.

impermanence is eternal. yin and yang. the dao that can be defined is not the eternal dao.


maya and lila are eternal. shiva is down at studio 54 still grooving


everything vibrates = string theory

 

[gnostic]

Not just statues, but all things that other people like are prohibited in Islam, games, music, wine, films, poetry, novels, stories. Remember Allah and his Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa salaam) every moment of your life. Very focused.

That would be dreadfully tedious.