The importance of the EVIDENCE in science

[cladking]

The first thing that you would need to do is enumerate the critical criteria for what an 'experiment in "evolution" that does not focus on individuals' is.

Excellent question and one to which I have put little thought. I do have a few I've come up with over the years but the most obvious would require a good understanding of any specific niche and preferably one that lasted for the longest possible time. Within this niche you need to find a series of fossils each very similar to the one before and the last very different from the first. This is the rub and it's exactly where biology went so far wrong. Fossilization is rare especially for significant species so the evidence is always inferred rather than observed. Induction is not a proper means to perform science. Abstractions don't exist in the concrete world and induction normally involves the manipulation of abstraction.

Biologists have a lot of expertise so it's entirely possible one could invent such a study based on his knowledge and experience.

I'd be happy to talk about this further but experience teaches me this will be ignored so why bother?

 

[ppp]

Excellent question and one to which I have put little thought.

Isn't that the crux of your entire position? You keep repeating and asserting and insisting that no experiment supporting the theory of evolution is performed on individuals. But now you are telling me that you have "put little thought" into the very thing that would let you distinguish between the truth and falsity of your claim. Why should I think you have anything useful to offer?

 

[cladking]

I'd be happy to talk about this further but experience teaches me this will be ignored so why bother?

I give up. Nobody wants to discuss or argue. They only want to lecture and belittle and insult.

Creationists are free to argue here but they are not free to win arguments. I just see no point in this.

Believers are free to continue their beliefs in the infallibility of evidence and Peers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I give up. Nobody wants to discuss or argue. They only want to lecture and belittle and insult.

Creationists are free to argue here but they are not free to win arguments. I just see no point in this.

Believers are free to continue their beliefs in the infallibility of evidence and Peers.

When one is debating one must be ready to support one's claims with proper evidence. Creationists consistently lose these debates because they not only do not seem to have any evidence, most do not even understand the concept and appear to be afraid to learn. The concept of evidence is easy to understand, but even you have stated that you refuse to learn what is and what is not evidence. How can you expect to convince anyone when you refuse to even discuss the basics of science?

 

[cladking]

I doubt you're fooling anyone at all but I'm dropping out of the discussions because believers in science refuse to discuss anything in good faith.

Your post is just more proof.

There are different sets of rules for those seeking rational discourse and the bullies who believe in science.


At this point I don't plan to log out this time but I am not going be posting. So go ahead and discuss this without ever considering rational arguments unless you like the evidence cited. Just ignore everything but what you believe as you have been doing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I doubt you're fooling anyone at all but I'm dropping out of the discussions because believers in science refuse to discuss anything in good faith.

Your post is just more proof.

There are different sets of rules for those seeking rational discourse and the bullies who believe in science.


At this point I don't plan to log out this time but I am not going be posting. So go ahead and discuss this without ever considering rational arguments unless you like the evidence cited. Just ignore everything but what you believeNo as you have been doing.

Sorry, but this is just a series of false attacks. No one has bullied you. No one has applied different standards to you than they apply to themselves. And you refuse to make rational arguments since you refuse to even discuss the concept of evidence. Why do you think that it is bullying when others demand that you properly support your claims?

If you made a rational argument people would listen and respond to you politely.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
The importance of the EVIDENCE in science
Is "evidence" so evident that it needs no trust/belief/faith to start with, please? Right?

Please. That was not a cogent sentence. A burned tree is evidence of a fire, even if no one is there to see it. Right?

Is it impossible that the tree looks burned but with some other reason than the fire, please?

Regards

 

[ppp]

Is it impossible that the tree looks burned but with some other reason than the fire, please?

When you say "looks" do you mean a casual look, or thorough investigation? Because I mean thorough investigation. And the answer to what I mean is, No.