The Jehovah's witnesses and the rest. What's the stumper?

[sojourner]

Your perspective is definitely different to mine

Yes it is! Your perspective seems to me to give way too much power to “evil,” “the Devil,” the “god of this world.” In fact, your perspective seems obsessed with what has been “tainted,” “ruined,” and “made dirty.” Instead of celebrating the good things, it seems that you seek to simply fight off the “bad stuff.” Your entire theological underpinning seems to be that everything is ruined. Again, you appear to be giving an awful lot of power and energy to the “bad stuff” of life. I sense that you could be such a power for the positive, but you’re too busy being subsumed by negativity to “let your light shine.” That’s too bad!

I came out of Christendom, so I have been on both sides of this fence. This shapes my perspective

You came out of one side of the church — one perspective. I read your story; I can assure you that not all Christian clergy would have blown you off like that. yet, you seem to want to lump us all together. It looks like a knee-jerk reaction to one traumatic event that has created a generalized negative viewpoint of the entire church.

IMV, God's marvellous work is obviously still there, but his enemy has thrown all manner of disgusting pollutants all over it.....in case you hadn't noticed, godless humans are bent on destroying his handiwork....materialistic greed continues to pour chemical poisons into our oceans, food, air and water

That’s my point: in your view. Your view is neither “correct” nor “incorrect” — it’s merely your view. Your view does not encompass the entirety of the theological landscape. But you’re not providing room for the views of others. The theological landscape is like a patchwork quilt or a collage. Each piece is unique in its color and shape, year each piece is just that — a piece of a much larger whole. Each piece works in unity with each other piece. Your view seems to disregard all the other pieces. it seeks the uniformity of all pieces.

And your view seems to be that the world is beyond salvation — that there’s nothing good left for God or humanity to work with. The Psalmist asks, “Where can I flee from your Presence?” God’s hand is still powerfully at work in this world, yet you would appear to throw it all away for some mythical “second chance.” I’m sure you have biblical interpretations to back up that view, but I and many others certainly don’t share them; it seems to lie at the heart of the modus operendi of your praxis. meanwhile, many of the rest of us celebrate what we call the “sacramental universe.” We see the world as God’s body, the rivers as God’s veins, the wind as God’s breath. We find the power of God marvelously at work to create and recreate a cycle of life within God’s creation, which is, as God declared, “very good.” We seek to foster and expand the positive spiritual energies through following the great commandment to love.

The military spending of the nations has poured billions of dollars into the development of the most heinous weaponry to indiscriminately destroy innocent life along with perceived enemies. The churches of Christendom have supported these efforts, providing chaplains for military personnel, no doubt to salve troubled consciences, lest they question God's command..."Thou shalt not kill"...or Jesus teaching his disciples to "love their enemies".

I agree with the first part of your statement. The military machine is scary and dangerous — and a misuse of the power God has given to us to curate. BUT, not all the church supports these efforts — and certainly not by providing chaplains. The role of the chaplain is not to support the killing, but to help the people who fight for you to cope with the consequences of having to leap neck-deep into the human condition. AND, most churches have a “conscientious objector” tool in place.

Churches were used as recruiting stations in world conflicts

Not all churches. You're generalizing again.

Satan has influenced disobedient ones to corrupt human worship by dividing it up between multitudes of false gods....but they are all invented by him....including Christendom's freakish god with three heads

I don’t know what “false gods” you refer to. God is God. God is known by a thousand names, and yet is the unnameable one. The name you recognize is just one of many, for God is multifaceted, as humanity is multifaceted.
And yes, I know how you feel about the Trinity. you don’t understand it; therefore you fear it. You make fun of it because you fear it. The beauty is that you don’t have to believe in that particular construction. There is room for any number of theological constructions.

How can you believe this mess is God's doing?

I don’t. I believe it’s humanity’s doing. We are given the power of harnessing energies for creative purposes, and we misuse that power.

We demonstrate whom it is that we worship by the way we conduct that worship and by the beliefs we hold as truth and the practices associated with it.

Your construction is too small and fear-laden for me. It would choke me. Religion was meant to make more of us, not less.

Where did our "truth" come from?

From your own understanding.

Sojourner, the truth is the truth regardless of what anyone believes

I disagree. One’s truth is malleable and highly influenced by belief.

Believing" doesn't make anything "true". No one can change the truth

Yes it does. Yes we can. We can imagine our destiny and build upon that vision. for example, it used to be a truth that women were physically incapable of being good leaders and business people. We have imagined our way beyond that limited vision.

Why are these ones appealing to Christ as if he should accept them as his own? Didn't they do all those things 'in his name'?....they are shocked to hear that their "powerful works" were not from God. It is God's laws that they are breaking....and the list is long

And yet, God is also portrayed as the loving father who waits at the door, watching, waiting until the prodigal returns. Jesus uses hyperbole a lot. It’s an invaluable literary and argumentative tool. How can we reconcile the biblical certainty that we can go nowhere without God being there with the utter separation you tout here? It’s hyperbole! God asks us to love, honor, and support each other. God asks us to build and foster community. God asks us to tend and care for each other. God’s laws are mercy, justice, kindness, forbearance, inclusion, forgiveness, hospitality, and love. Not pedantic and ancient rules written in ancient scrolls.

That's how he can say he "NEVER" knew them? "Never" means "not ever". Christ has never set foot in Christendom.

And yet, wherever we go, there is God. I adamantly disagree. The church is the Body of Christ. Just because the body has Beyoncé dirty, or diseased, or disfigured, is no reason to condemn it and give up on it.

For us, the truth has no 'maybe's'.

For me, the truth is full of possibility.

the Bible presents the God of Abraham as a God who has one truth and one set of rules for all his worshippers....none of them are negotiable.

The Bible presents God from a limited perspective. And God is open to negotiation. Abraham argued with God. God died in a vast negotiation for the soul of humanity.

Truth does not allow for many interpretations.

Truth is a collage of many interpretations, only a few of which we perceive.

The identifying mark of true Christians is unity, not confined to a local church or even a national denomination....but an internationally recognisable brotherhood of Christ's disciples who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ without compromise.

Yes it is. And you appear to be doing everything you can to be divisive — even going so far as to condemn the Body of Christ and to impose your vision on the rest of us.

The fact that we do not adhere to Christendom's theology means that we do not recognize any of its teachings as "truth

Just because you don’t recognize them, does not mean they aren’t true.

We are no part of what we see as the 'weeds' of Jesus parable.

Yet, in God’s kin-dom, the Master directs the wheat and weeds to grow up together. It appears as though we are directed to “have part of” each other — even if we disagree.

That is a condemnation of the religious system, NOT the people who have been taught untruths all their lives

The religious system is the people. You’re justifying your condemnation. But condemnation is not what we are called to.

This is why Jesus sent his disciples out to search for the "worthy" ones (Matthew 10:11-14)......to find those who aren't convinced that the divided church system is genuine Christianity

There was no “divided church system” when Jesus sent them out. You’re misinterpreting the text.

Again, that is how you view it.....but we do not view people as "evil" at all.

We are the church, which you condemn. you speak with forked tongue.

If we did, we would not have been out preaching to them all this time, as Jesus directed

Jesus directs us to share Gospel, not to spout a limited vision and “sell” it to people. It feels as though your system objectifies souls. I’ve been visited by JWs. They’re not there to share, they’re there to sell. Part of sharing involves a lot of listening to the perspectives of others, to see what one can learn from them. I don’t perceive a whole lot of listening/sharing going on with door-knocking. You don’t want to enter our reality; you only want to sell yours. That’s how I see it.

 

[rational experiences]

Consciousness was the Healer medical biological study/thesis about human Genesis, and its leaving by conditions of Satanism....occult/UFO science in Temple/pyramid ancient technologies. Which AI memory recording, atmospheric image and human voice records sharing the use words and infer design by use of words first.

Science just a human designed inferred to machine formula to instate beginning and also end. So spiritual humanity consciously said creation never owned any beginning and it never owned any end.

Science however, the occult discussing light, which is gases burning and then darkness, removal of the gas light talks cosmological themes for how to remove mass back to the status of space and nothing. So science as a claim in design says I know how to make/create holes....the black hole theist in person.

Removal of mass opens into more space and eventually an irradiated black hole appears he says for removal of spatial vacuum frozen cooled metallic Sun radiated mass...came out of an exploded Sun, that shrunk its mass as compared to Suns in the cosmos and became smaller. Seeing our Sun attacked its planets in its Universe.

What science in Satanism always knew, how and why the nothing, mass removal existed.

Said he could copy its causes, why he invented in science by design SIN x K constant holes. As a status God historically was Satan he says, an evil burning gas spirit that is imprisoned inside of stone mass. I know for I conjured the presence of Satan out of mass by the constant machine application.

Satanism science of the UFO occult history, total aware knowledge of.

Therefore when the word never existed first or in origin, the conscious identification and reasoning tells you this story actually. About how the word was used by males for human science storytelling detail first. Then they gained a symbolic numerical sequence for machination and reaction. Which is not God.

So not only did human males pretend that they spoke on behalf of what they studied the concept in natural light, gases burning in a spatial void/vacuum on the face of natural water heavens owned the concept naturally of movement in light of gas spirit was o circulation, described as a male thinking as G a swirling movement to O, how it already existed, which is what the thinkers today overlook, O the movement in spirit was naturally self present without words first.

Males in science themed the study, above their heads in the sky, gases alight and burning to produce O is G swirling into O. Then in the study said O, in its presence is constantly changing its movement and splits into D/D and becomes O/O again. Yet that was natural in a spatial vacuum.

If you ask humanity what happened in the past as a theist using words AI, human life today suffering in early age death p AI n, and past life information owns a worded fed back answer. Which I proved to my own self was real....the hearing of accurate human lived records as a psychic detail.

It says today that in the past the Jehovah witness were a group who witnessed the stigmata attack and changes to the wisdom about natural light/spirit in our Heavens....as detailed by their human Father, the conceptualiser about God.

They were in fact witness to it due to Temple pyramid science.
Christians, also a historic self group, witnessed the same physical, mental, emotional, spiritual and bio changes also.

Their information, from their own communities/groups correlated to be similar in the witness of the changes to natural life, their human family and phenomena status as occurs in the UFO conditions, extra radiation causes. They shared that information and once agreed as communal groups to the status that they were both historically correct as being the witness to the actions.

Communities as groups existed in the past as they do today. We use group titles to define our beliefs and our taught agreements. In the past life was defined by DNA in your owned Holy Land, that owned why DNA was a variant to other Lands.

The humans in the Israel, Isreal history said, our Father re invented the pyramid and he sacrificed our DNA baby life historically we are the worst/most sacrificed DNA life body by acts in God sciences.

As the fact of how the information was once taught, witnessed, data historic records kept. Multi books of data and historic records used to update the Revelations of the occult sciences. It was defined originally as the Books of the Dead and the Bible then forbade that form of occult science implementation.

The reason it was named Books of the Dead as an occult science, for it was already known in study that the original use pyramid had destroyed all life on Earth. So you would wonder why it was researched and re applied, the same as you would wonder why in modern times it is still researched and wanted to be understood.

Same old, same old human mentality, human egotism, human lying and coercing and the same history being relived again just as it was prophesised for one human reason only. The origin of science as a design in human life was done by and thought upon by the highest and healthiest most spiritual human male historically, and we as human life since then have been possessed by it as the lesser self converted by radiation mass.

The very reason for its researched documented history and meaning, owned and taught by spiritual humanity for the sake of human life continuance. As a known status against our own human self.

 

[Deeje]

You came out of one side of the church — one perspective. I read your story; I can assure you that not all Christian clergy would have blown you off like that. yet, you seem to want to lump us all together. It looks like a knee-jerk reaction to one traumatic event that has created a generalized negative viewpoint of the entire church.

If you read my story, then you should not have skipped over the part where I tried several different denominations but found them all the same. Same old tired doctrines under a different banner.

I tried Eastern religions....even the Mormons....then on to evolution....but came up empty. My view of the churches is not tied to one traumatic event at all, but to a string of unanswered questions and the worst hypocrisy imaginable. The church is not disunited fragments of one truth, but a complete mish-mash of human thinking.

How did Christendom disappoint me?
The justification for bloodshed and support for the military flies in the face of Jesus' teachings. These churches have sold out because of currying "friendship with this world". (Matthew 5:43-44; James 4:4)

The two most important dates on the "Christian" calendar are both adopted straight out of paganism. Taken from the Romans and given a thin "Christian" veneer, these celebrations encouraged gluttony and drunkenness. No one seemed to notice that Christ was not honored one bit by their merry making at "Christmas". They were celebrating to Mithra, not Jesus. The nativity was corrupted with a star and some "wise men" who turned out to be pagan astrologers who followed a star sent by the devil so that a jealous King Herod would put him to death. God announced the birth of his son to Jewish shepherds, not pagan astrologers. The "Christmas" customs and decorations have nothing whatsoever to do with the birth of Jesus.

The Jews were commanded NOT to copy what the pagan nations were doing (Deuteronomy 18:9-12) so because of its spiritistic roots, they did not celebrate birthdays. Therefore, Jesus did not celebrate his own birthday, and would never have approved of his followers doing so.

"Easter" is not even camouflaged....they didn't even change the name of this pagan goddess of fertility, but incorporated her emblems, rabbits and eggs, into their Easter festival. Its like 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 didn't exist in their Bibles.

The trinity and the three 'gods' that are fused into one head.....is to me a disgusting departure from anything Christ taught about his relationship with his Father. (John 17:3)

Infant baptism...is a totally meaningless ritual that did not ever save one baby.

Christendom invented an earthly priesthood with royal garments and funny hats. They invented a clergy class that was absent in the first century. Hierarchy developed into power hungry Bishops who sought prominence just like the Pharisees did.

Judaism and Christendom are mirror images of one another. The same thing happened to both....the traditions of men became more prominent than the word of God. Both ended up unacceptable to the God they claimed to worship.

 

[Deeje]

Your view does not encompass the entirety of the theological landscape. But you’re not providing room for the views of others. The theological landscape is like a patchwork quilt or a collage. Each piece is unique in its color and shape, year each piece is just that — a piece of a much larger whole. Each piece works in unity with each other piece. Your view seems to disregard all the other pieces. it seeks the uniformity of all pieces.

And your view seems to be that the world is beyond salvation — that there’s nothing good left for God or humanity to work with.

At the end, that is exactly how it is described. The goats outnumber the sheep because the "many" are on the wrong road. (Matthew 7:13-14)

We see the world as God’s body, the rivers as God’s veins, the wind as God’s breath. We find the power of God marvelously at work to create and recreate a cycle of life within God’s creation, which is, as God declared, “very good.” We seek to foster and expand the positive spiritual energies through following the great commandment to love.

Very poetic but not very realistic. The 6th day ended with everything being "very good" but the 7th day began with rebellion and undid all of God's good work. And here we are over 6,000 years later and it's still being sorted.

The military machine is scary and dangerous — and a misuse of the power God has given to us to curate. BUT, not all the church supports these efforts — and certainly not by providing chaplains. The role of the chaplain is not to support the killing, but to help the people who fight for you to cope with the consequences of having to leap neck-deep into the human condition. AND, most churches have a “conscientious objector” tool in place.

A "conscientious objector tool"? What on earth does that mean? All Christians if they are obedient to Christ must of necessity be conscientious objectors. There is no choice in that because we are not authorized by God to be part of the world or its rulership. We obey God before we obey man. (Acts 5:29)

The name you recognize is just one of many, for God is multifaceted, as humanity is multifaceted.

I'm sorry but I cannot agree...God has only one name. He has one role as the Sovereign Ruler of his Universe. He is not multifaceted at all.

I know how you feel about the Trinity. you don’t understand it; therefore you fear it. You make fun of it because you fear it. The beauty is that you don’t have to believe in that particular construction. There is room for any number of theological constructions.

I don't fear it at all...I am actually disgusted by it. It breaks God's law, so one of us should be afraid....very afraid, in view of Christ's words at Matthew 7:21-23.

Your construction is too small and fear-laden for me. It would choke me. Religion was meant to make more of us, not less.

Then why are Christendom's" teaching so much less than Christ commanded? You hardly obey him at all.

One’s truth is malleable and highly influenced by belief.

"One's truth" maybe...but God's truth is not. It is rock solid and there for all to see.

We can imagine our destiny and build upon that vision. for example, it used to be a truth that women were physically incapable of being good leaders and business people. We have imagined our way beyond that limited vision.

I don't know what to say, so again I'll leave that gem there to speak for itself. This is your version of Christian progress? Oh dear....

And yet, God is also portrayed as the loving father who waits at the door, watching, waiting until the prodigal returns.

The prodigal was repentant.....how would his father have reacted if he'd rocked up and demanded to be part of the family again..."and gimme my inheritance back".

Our Father demands repentance and a contrite heart...if there is no repentance, it means no forgiveness. The Father did not wait at the door, but when he saw the downcast posture of his son, in such a pathetic condition, he ran out to meet him....put a robe on him and ordered a feast. This is the God I know.

God asks us to love, honor, and support each other. God asks us to build and foster community. God asks us to tend and care for each other. God’s laws are mercy, justice, kindness, forbearance, inclusion, forgiveness, hospitality, and love. Not pedantic and ancient rules written in ancient scrolls.

Which is what JW's do....we support our brothers in every nation, in every way possible, but your brothers are not my brothers. We have a completely different Father and a completely different family. We take care of our own...if all the churches did that, especially in view of all the disaster relief that has been required just in the last 12 months......what would there be left for governments to do?

 

[Deeje]

And yet, wherever we go, there is God. I adamantly disagree. The church is the Body of Christ. Just because the body has Beyoncé dirty, or diseased, or disfigured, is no reason to condemn it and give up on it.

Jehovah's people are clean...morally physically and spiritually. It is a pre-requisite for all servants of Jehovah.
You shape up or you ship out. We don't tolerate those who don't want to work. We will give anyone a hand up, but not a handout. It just teaches dependency, not self sufficiency.

The Bible presents God from a limited perspective. And God is open to negotiation. Abraham argued with God. God died in a vast negotiation for the soul of humanity.

Sorry...An immortal God cannot die,

Your entire theological underpinning seems to be that everything is ruined.

And you think its not ruined? It was ruined once before, remember? (Genesis 6:11-12) In Noah's day the world of mankind had "ruined its way" and God took drastic action to rid the earth of the culprits....yet it was only a stop-gap measure to reset humankind so that the level of wickedness that would accompany Christ's return, would only be witnessed one more time.....and here we are...(Matthew 24:37-39) The earth is again filled with violence and immorality.

What is the purpose of Christ's return (Matthew 25:31-33) and what will the rulership of his Kingdom accomplish for mankind? (Revelation 21:2-4)

Again, you appear to be giving an awful lot of power and energy to the “bad stuff” of life. I sense that you could be such a power for the positive, but you’re too busy being subsumed by negativity to “let your light shine.” That’s too bad!

Oh, our light is shining all right.....over 300,000 baptized in the last year and more added every day.....the 'light' overpowers the darkness, but it doesn't hide it, or pretend its not there. It teaches us to deal with it and share our hope with others.

Yet, in God’s kin-dom, the Master directs the wheat and weeds to grow up together. It appears as though we are directed to “have part of” each other — even if we disagree.

1 Corinthians 1:10...
"Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought."
Yep, that describes Christendom all right....

The religious system is the people. You’re justifying your condemnation. But condemnation is not what we are called to.

No, the system is a product of the devil....his minions are culpable, however because they willingly remain part of it even though its up to its neck in disobedience to Christ's teachings. None so blind...ya know....

There was no “divided church system” when Jesus sent them out. You’re misinterpreting the text.

Jesus was Jewish...he sent his disciples out to preach the gospel to fellow Jews....the system was indeed divided and Christ led them out of there. There was one Christianity and all had to adhere to those teachings.

2 John 10-11
"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."

There was no room for personal interpretation....there was only one teaching....but the foretold apostasy corrupted it.

We are the church, which you condemn. you speak with forked tongue.

God is about to destroy "Babylon the great" and God's "people" are commanded to "get out of her" if they do not want to share in her fate. (Revelation 18:4-5) Those who don't obey that command will be like those who sang on the Titanic as it sank. There will be no lifeboats once the sinking starts. All the lifeboats will already be filled.

Jesus directs us to share Gospel, not to spout a limited vision and “sell” it to people. It feels as though your system objectifies souls. I’ve been visited by JWs. They’re not there to share, they’re there to sell. Part of sharing involves a lot of listening to the perspectives of others, to see what one can learn from them. I don’t perceive a whole lot of listening/sharing going on with door-knocking. You don’t want to enter our reality; you only want to sell yours. That’s how I see it.

We are there with a two fold message just as Noah preached to the people of his day. (2 Peter 2:5) There was room on the ark for many more people, but once God shut the door.....their opportunity was gone. Jesus used that as an apt illustration of what is to come....only this time it will not be by water.

There is no sugar coated message...there is an acknowledgment of the reality and a way to be saved....it is a cramped and narrow road that leads to life and "few" will find it because the "many" are looking in the wrong place, so they never find the exit ramp or the gate.

The door of opportunity is not closed yet...but we believe it will be soon. The world is falling apart and there is no one who can put it back together......only God by his Christ would restore the world to what humankind had in the beginning. That is what we look forward to.

 

[Misty Woods]

First of all, marriage to God is that a Holy Mother and a Holy Father, natural human x pairs exist. For it states that God owned the pairing of natural life.

Only one condition changed on Earth and it was via technology of the sciences that involve UFO mass radiation and nuclear energy. Being Temple and Pyramid sciences, when Churches never even existed. Temples on the mount AIN and also ground Temples with the pyramid was the used technology.

That technology formed multi ANTI signals in the UFO mass radiation dispersion until the spatial vacuum, opened and removed the UFO. The cosmos cooling function.

Machinery/invention therefore forced held the UFO longer by intention of utilising its signals, radio wave/science radiation transmitters. For science knows that radiation is a force that attacks and converts the stone mass upon which we all stand/walk.

Therefore the natural marriage of x 2 pairing changed. How behaviour in life changed, for even Jehovah Witnesses have humans who confess to being homosexual and get rejected in the community.

A human not a Priest dies from AIDS....do you also condemn them as a human for that cruel death? And then the sexual condition is inferred to reasoning of its presence, when the sexual condition is either a human being male by body type or a human being female by body type. And both can gain AIDS...sex meaning what sexual body you own by human condition.

As animals in Nature also gained AIDS, anyone claiming that such a cruel attack on life is due to sex is wrong. It was inherited in the same reasoning that change to the human behaviours was forced upon us.

We are all born as innocent babies and even the bible says, the day that this circumstance becomes brought before the LAW, then the children who are cruelly dealt with, from little babies who inherit the life form/mind condition and physicality will all be proven innocent.

Pity you cannot personally own that spiritual reality in your group coercive reasoning, which is just a human group agreement by their choices.

What does Jesus say about having children? | NeverThirsty.

When the bible is a contradictive statement for God was not Holy or spiritual to destroy holy life, little babies innocent children, who also just happen to be adults.

The Bible is a lesson about what occurs to life living on God the Earth when you alter its spirits, in science/creation it is the gases that belong to the presence of physical stone. Which science transmutated in the past and removed from form and also where it naturally existed in Earth pressures.....the gold. It was their trade in the past and they understood how to transmute it by moving its timed/pressure variable.

If you care to use common sense and not ignore natural life as being forcibly changed by the conditions of the OCCULT being science.

As science is a multi world national and multi cultural choice, and denominational agreement by multi humans, then not one of you own any condition to condemn humanity who already lived condemned in natural life due to science (occult) having changed the physical mass of a natural God history O the ST ONE...st meaning AIN the SAINT body of 0. Held fusion or SION.

Therefore in fact if anyone is going to represent a human argument it is to question the reality occult before you make any claim against any victim of science. In human reality we have suffered enough bigotry.

As far as all of your UFO talk, well, all that I can say is Wow, and that subject for me is another topic entirely.

Some of my spiritual brothers and sisters have formerly led a homosexual lifestyle. The key word is, formerly. I’ve learned that their choices were more based on the emotional feelings of companionship than sexual orientation. Also there are children, like myself, that were sexually abused. Such abuse can leave lifelong emotional damage.

Jesus stated at Matt.19:11,12 “Not all men make room for the saying, but only those who have the gift. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Jesus uses this term in both a literal and figurative sense. The eunuchs he mentions here, do not refer to males who have physically castrated themselves or have been emasculated, rather, these voluntarily remain in a state of singleness. Paul was unmarried at the time he traveled as a missionary. Some of Paul’s comments seem to allow for the possibility that he was a widower. 1 Cor 7:7-9 “But I wish all men were as I am. Nevertheless, each one has his own gift from God, one in this way, another in that way. Now I say to those who are unmarried and to the widows that it is better for them if they remain as I am. But if they do not have self-control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be inflamed with passion.”

The Bible makes it clear that if someone continues to practice sexual immorality, he cannot remain in the congregation. (1 Corinthians 6:9; Revelation 22:15) An immoral person loses respect for himself and the trust of others. Immorality always results in problems, usually leading to a guilty conscience, unwanted pregnancy, marriage problems, disease, or even death.

Gal 6:7,8 “Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a person is sowing, this he will also reap; because the one sowing with a view to his flesh will reap corruption from his flesh, but the one sowing with a view to the spirit will reap everlasting life from the spirit.”

More religious people than ever who claim to represent the Bible are speaking out in favor of homosexuality. Many say the Bible is for “another age,” is not “modern” or “for us today.” It’s considered out-of-date for use in dealing with this problem. However, fair-minded persons that are sincerely interested in the truth and in God’s approval are willing to find out if what they are saying is true. The Bible is indeed a very old book. But that doesn’t disqualify it as a guide on moral matters like homosexuality. It’s very age actually contributes to its value as a moral guide. Regardless of the time period, humans have always had the same basic physical and emotional needs. Logically, if the Bible is the Word of God by which men should direct their lives, is it not understandable that it would have a long history? It’s age should certainly be a factor in its favor, therefore lending weight to what it says on homosexuality.

The Bible is not oblivious to homosexual practices. They’re specifically referred to several times in the Scriptures. At Romans 1:26, 27, The New Testament in Modern English by J. B. Phillips: “God therefore handed them over to disgraceful passions. Their women exchanged the normal practices of sexual intercourse for something which is abnormal and unnatural. Similarly the men, turning from natural intercourse with women, were swept into lustful passions for one another.”… Thereafter, it accurately details the effects of homosexuality: “Men with men performed these shameful horrors, receiving, of course, in their own personalities the consequences of sexual perversity.”

It would be incredibly dishonest for anyone to say, that homosexuals themselves haven’t admitted that they receive “in their own personalities the consequences” of the homosexual way of life. Many of them by their own words and actions point to the instability of homosexual “marriages,” promiscuity of searching for sex partners, and the dishonesty in trying to hide behind a facade of respectability while secretly carrying on homosexual activity.

The Bible accurately depicts the results of this practice. But why do these adverse traits appear in “their own personalities”? Paul says it is because they engage in that which is “abnormal and unnatural.” Advocates of homosexuality say that what makes something “natural” or “unnatural” is purely subjective, and is a matter that must be decided by each person for himself. However, is it not obvious to virtually all persons that male and female sex organs were designed to “fit” together? Does it seem “natural” for two lesbians to come together sexually? One of the pair must often use some type of artificial substitute for a male organ to satisfy the other. And consider male homosexuals. Both may claim to be men, but must not one assume a female role in some sense? In the case of male and female homosexuals, one way or another, a substitute must be supplied for what the opposite sex supplies “naturally.” How reasonable is that?

So the Bible depicts, and informs us of the results of this practice, and then condemns it at 1 Cor.6:9,10: “Make no mistake: no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion . . . will possess the kingdom of God.” (The New English Bible) Or, as the The Living Bible states: “Homosexuals—will have no share in his kingdom.”

If a person really stopped and thought about what immorality leads to, he or she probably would not want to be immoral. But often a person is thinking only about satisfying his or her own desires when he or she takes the first step toward immorality. It is important to understand how sexual immorality can attract us. James 1:14, 15 states: “Each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death.” So when wrong thoughts enter our mind, we should ditch them immediately. If we accidentally see erotic images, look away! Turn off the computer, or change the channel. Do not allow wrong desires into our life, so as to maintain self control.. Read Matthew 5:29, 30.

Jehovah knows how imperfect we are. He also knows that through heartfelt prayer to Him, we can overcome wrong desires with His spirit that we keep asking for. He tells us: “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are on the earth as respects sexual immorality, uncleanness, uncontrolled sexual passion, hurtful desire, and greediness, which is idolatry.” (Colossians 3:5) It isn’t easy, but Jehovah is patient, and He will help us. (Psalm 68:19)

I’ve led a very immoral life, due to my own personal ignorance, and mental and emotional damage, that added up to a whole lot of rage. I even had habits that I had to pray to Jehovah for just the mere desire to quit. When a truly sincere heart prays to Jehovah, through our oldest brother, our King Christ Jesus, mountains can certainly be moved, and oceans can be emptied.

 

[Misty Woods]

You'll have to prove this. I don't believe there's an unbiased history anywhere that speaks about "the wheat field of Xy being overrun with weeds of apostate antichrists."

Our Father Jehovah grants each and every one of us Freewill to choose our direction, and beliefs, right or wrong, His way or our own way. Exactly who do you believe that you are, to insist that I'll have to prove any thing to you?

 

[rational experiences]

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The bible is a quoted conceptualised contradiction to self, spiritual and natural first self and origin of self, natural, first, original human and an adult male.

Human reasoning has to be included in any book reading or coercive pre existing adult literature.

Common human sense, is to be rational first. And that is to look at the natural self present human life first before any scientific (creation) themes are applied, which includes any reference to God or changes to God or by God.

Life is first natural and life is not immoral, civilization owns statuettes imposed by the governing bodies of their own times.....using human reasons involving changes to mass human owned behaviours, which owned a listing of evidence for self explanation and for self governing.

To their best ability.

As a spiritual human not group coerced, I looked at all religious belief and saw an underlying representation in its detailed descriptions. Science of the occult, the UFO mass irradiation cause.

Which depicts in human behaviour that due to brain/mind and chemical irradiation, the thinking capability as owned by the sexual being, either an adult human male qualified to be a Father as an adult. Or an adult human female life qualified to be a Mother.

Those 2 holy human being bodies are owned and inherited by all children, as babies.

God, O the one body is first in science descriptive advice O STONE and the body of the ST AIN...the gas spirits in science. You cannot just read the Bible as if it is just about humans, scientific interpretation is always involved actually.

Hence O God the stone was stated to be the S AIN T body...entombed and deceased spirits. Spirit in science is a gas, gas entombed means it no longer was burning with light. As light is life stated in human consciousness as rational reasoning about scientific creation quotes.

Jesus, our brother was a Healer.

He was born by the act of human sex to be a human male, from a baby, as all babies are sexually conceived inside of the human being female Mother life to be a baby. No human today can argue against that stated fact.

If you were discussing science of the past, Old temple pyramid sciences and then science of modern day life around 2020 years ago, then a history of scientific and heavenly bodies, plus cosmological events are Biblical science discussed. That the wandering star, being an asteroid released it water/gas mass out of its stone body as it travelled. It was travelling as taught due to ancient human being male adult life living in the Holy Land, as the Father who re invented pyramid science.

Who claims I moved a mountain.

Historically in science the thesis for mountain movement was a flooded planet Earth after it was UFO SUN time converted by mass, flooded to mountain tip, mountain tip above water line totally removed. How to move a mountain as a pyramid theme....which in fact by design was false/fake information.

The history Satanism and occultism, also discussed as relevant advice about how and why human Genetics, only given to us all by the baby human life conception was mutated, sick and owned stigmata status.

The science argument today in homosexual behaviour. The bio identification for the male life presence is whole and intact. Do not understand the condition.

Condition change to the consciousness.....Christ is the consciousness. If you sacrificed the consciousness what occurs?

Most humans would not even know nor understand, yet phenomena science occult studies existed for a very long time in the Catholic Christian sciences....what is determined to be quantified as conscious change, an overtaking of the conscious ability to equate self to morality conditions, due to the Satanic event and its history.

Which is artificial feed back amassed false communicators, who not only communicated back to Earth from Earth historic UFO satellite vacuum sucked back bodies......but changed them. So that instead of gaining a human being male image in the cloud mass with angelic type male and female images, it only communicated back an alienation of the male science self.

True story.

The presence alien communicates to the Satanic communicators that communicate to the ground life. Proven by animal life, also being shown as images in the same clouds as the image of Jesus appears. So there is no argument about that cause, for it is real. As animal life also got sacrificed in the past and still does today in modern day times as phenomena causes.

SCIENCE....the reasoning of owned a human listing of conscious causes for why a human mentality born a holy baby to a Holy human Mother and a Holy human Father, who have sex. Homosexual humans in sex cannot conceive babies....so their owned baby self, was conceived by Holy parents.

So the bible states that it is not the fault of the baby/child inheritance as Holy parents had sex to bring them into a human male adult group choice, to irradiate the Earth atmosphere, for brain prickling crown of thorns outcome.

I know, I experienced it. You cannot truly discuss wisdom unless you own the experience that goes with it.

So I learnt as a female what my Holy brother in his life, incurred in the attack/fallout of natural life.

It states categorically that it was a medical Healer DNA/genetic biological study of the changes to human consciousness due to being irradiated, which falsifies natural male to male feed back in the atmosphere to remain consciously their own self.

Interference, being the UFO effect does not allow the changed conscious human to act naturally or normally and it is NOT their fault.

As a spiritual Healer self applied human study I learnt what it means to be actually spiritually accepting what humans did to humans and own a portion of the blame without owning blame. For we all have to say, yes we support technology, irradiation atmospheric changes by the standards in our communities involving technology itself, past and present.

We therefore taught a spiritual consequence that said to anyone changed, it is human karmic and sadly you are all affected by the past choice of science of the nuclear conversions to Earth.

I understood the Catholic brothers who studied phenomena and attacks, and knew that they owned a huge advice listing of humans that they studied in those changes. No one today can argued against what occult sciences/radiation has caused, for it is obvious that it has caused all problems.

If just one homosexual male lived, you might then quote that it is not natural, but in today's irradiated atmosphere it has become part of the norm of human conscious behaviour whether or not you agree. You are portion responsible in the use of technology, just by living in the experience.

I too lived and learnt about homosexual females and homosexual males as friends, family and community. I understood that human abuse is a very small percentile reasoning, yet the behaviour mentality of being abused is also involved in the irradiation effect, so already it is connected as a rational human to human relationship in their behaviours.

In healing you also study the life history and behaviours to understand why choices and motivation as interactive cause, is like living a science encoding. So I learnt that humans who thought they were evil and could project evil, were only being irradiated, as was the victim involved in the irradiation effect in the same circumstance.

My Holy Mother teachings taught me these situations because she owns the ovary, from which all babies are born from.

Our original Father was not born from our Holy Mother's ovary, he was a whole adult life original male human as compared to our brother human baby self who came out of a human sexual ovary.

As the female ovary asides from the male baby DNA had been attacked and harmed, when the female Holy land DNA participant healed her cellular ovary, in her womb, the holy male baby was reformed in an Immaculate conception, meaning non identifiable reason for the DNA to have healed....it was in the past considered miraculous, today different medical advice, that is not any miracle can advise the same reasoning.

Due to atmospheric ICE re emerging every year, natural amassing and cooling of water returned Earth to a previous released ICE MASS, and it is why human DNA every year in ICE sea of the son returned enabled DNA to heal in a stable state along with animal babies. It was a scientific medical statement.

Today, human inability to not be judgemental is real. Most humans who are caused to live separated from the majority group nature, do not feel acceptable if you studied their own psyche. They have suffered enough human indignity and suffering for the conditions of being mind conscious interfered with by the status AI...and it is about time that humanity learnt to be grateful that this human conditions is not yours to live.

I love my human family in their diversity, natural and changed natural and it is about time that everyone else agrees that if you change the Nature of the Heavenly spiritual body, then expect human behaviour to change also.

 

[Eyes to See]

I was sitting here reading these past few posts about sexual immorality. The quote Misty Woods posted is a little old, Jehovah's Witnesses don't use the word fornication in print anymore as it is becoming antiquated. They have modernized, and simply say sexual immorality, it is easier to understand, for a lot of the younger generation especially.

In the Bible sexual immorality is any form of sex that is outside the bond of holy matrimony which God instituted as sacred. It doesn't matter if it is with people of the opposite sex, or the same sex, it is still sexual immorality outside the bonds of the sacred institution of marriage.

Instead of explaining in detail why God condemns it I thought I would share this to help one ponder over why God gives us moral regulations.

 

[firedragon]

They have modernized, and simply say sexual immorality, it is easier to understand, for a lot of the younger generation especially.

You are right. You even explained what is considered sexual immorality in the Bible. But this phrase "sexual morality" can be misinterpreted. "Fornication" is a better rendition.

Nowadays with the new generation its moral to have relations with the date. But as you rightly said it will be considered fornication in biblical understanding.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

As far as all of your UFO talk, well, all that I can say is Wow, and that subject for me is another topic entirely.

Some of my spiritual brothers and sisters have formerly led a homosexual lifestyle. The key word is, formerly. I’ve learned that their choices were more based on the emotional feelings of companionship than sexual orientation. Also there are children, like myself, that were sexually abused. Such abuse can leave lifelong emotional damage.

Jesus stated at Matt.19:11,12 “Not all men make room for the saying, but only those who have the gift. For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Jesus uses this term in both a literal and figurative sense. The eunuchs he mentions here, do not refer to males who have physically castrated themselves or have been emasculated, rather, these voluntarily remain in a state of singleness. Paul was unmarried at the time he traveled as a missionary. Some of Paul’s comments seem to allow for the possibility that he was a widower. 1 Cor 7:7-9 “But I wish all men were as I am. Nevertheless, each one has his own gift from God, one in this way, another in that way. Now I say to those who are unmarried and to the widows that it is better for them if they remain as I am. But if they do not have self-control, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be inflamed with passion.”

The Bible makes it clear that if someone continues to practice sexual immorality, he cannot remain in the congregation. (1 Corinthians 6:9; Revelation 22:15) An immoral person loses respect for himself and the trust of others. Immorality always results in problems, usually leading to a guilty conscience, unwanted pregnancy, marriage problems, disease, or even death.

Gal 6:7,8 “Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a person is sowing, this he will also reap; because the one sowing with a view to his flesh will reap corruption from his flesh, but the one sowing with a view to the spirit will reap everlasting life from the spirit.”

More religious people than ever who claim to represent the Bible are speaking out in favor of homosexuality. Many say the Bible is for “another age,” is not “modern” or “for us today.” It’s considered out-of-date for use in dealing with this problem. However, fair-minded persons that are sincerely interested in the truth and in God’s approval are willing to find out if what they are saying is true. The Bible is indeed a very old book. But that doesn’t disqualify it as a guide on moral matters like homosexuality. It’s very age actually contributes to its value as a moral guide. Regardless of the time period, humans have always had the same basic physical and emotional needs. Logically, if the Bible is the Word of God by which men should direct their lives, is it not understandable that it would have a long history? It’s age should certainly be a factor in its favor, therefore lending weight to what it says on homosexuality.

The Bible is not oblivious to homosexual practices. They’re specifically referred to several times in the Scriptures. At Romans 1:26, 27, The New Testament in Modern English by J. B. Phillips: “God therefore handed them over to disgraceful passions. Their women exchanged the normal practices of sexual intercourse for something which is abnormal and unnatural. Similarly the men, turning from natural intercourse with women, were swept into lustful passions for one another.”… Thereafter, it accurately details the effects of homosexuality: “Men with men performed these shameful horrors, receiving, of course, in their own personalities the consequences of sexual perversity.”

It would be incredibly dishonest for anyone to say, that homosexuals themselves haven’t admitted that they receive “in their own personalities the consequences” of the homosexual way of life. Many of them by their own words and actions point to the instability of homosexual “marriages,” promiscuity of searching for sex partners, and the dishonesty in trying to hide behind a facade of respectability while secretly carrying on homosexual activity.

The Bible accurately depicts the results of this practice. But why do these adverse traits appear in “their own personalities”? Paul says it is because they engage in that which is “abnormal and unnatural.” Advocates of homosexuality say that what makes something “natural” or “unnatural” is purely subjective, and is a matter that must be decided by each person for himself. However, is it not obvious to virtually all persons that male and female sex organs were designed to “fit” together? Does it seem “natural” for two lesbians to come together sexually? One of the pair must often use some type of artificial substitute for a male organ to satisfy the other. And consider male homosexuals. Both may claim to be men, but must not one assume a female role in some sense? In the case of male and female homosexuals, one way or another, a substitute must be supplied for what the opposite sex supplies “naturally.” How reasonable is that?

So the Bible depicts, and informs us of the results of this practice, and then condemns it at 1 Cor.6:9,10: “Make no mistake: no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion . . . will possess the kingdom of God.” (The New English Bible) Or, as the The Living Bible states: “Homosexuals—will have no share in his kingdom.”

If a person really stopped and thought about what immorality leads to, he or she probably would not want to be immoral. But often a person is thinking only about satisfying his or her own desires when he or she takes the first step toward immorality. It is important to understand how sexual immorality can attract us. James 1:14, 15 states: “Each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn sin, when it has been carried out, brings forth death.” So when wrong thoughts enter our mind, we should ditch them immediately. If we accidentally see erotic images, look away! Turn off the computer, or change the channel. Do not allow wrong desires into our life, so as to maintain self control.. Read Matthew 5:29, 30.

Jehovah knows how imperfect we are. He also knows that through heartfelt prayer to Him, we can overcome wrong desires with His spirit that we keep asking for. He tells us: “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are on the earth as respects sexual immorality, uncleanness, uncontrolled sexual passion, hurtful desire, and greediness, which is idolatry.” (Colossians 3:5) It isn’t easy, but Jehovah is patient, and He will help us. (Psalm 68:19)

I’ve led a very immoral life, due to my own personal ignorance, and mental and emotional damage, that added up to a whole lot of rage. I even had habits that I had to pray to Jehovah for just the mere desire to quit. When a truly sincere heart prays to Jehovah, through our oldest brother, our King Christ Jesus, mountains can certainly be moved, and oceans can be emptied.

Beautiful post, my sister!

I’m glad that you were honest, humble, & hungry enough to make those changes!

 

[rational experiences]

What everyone quotes, the Bible is just a book.

Humans are self present natural and diverse.

Science says as the highest intelligent researcher format of a human life states DNA was once all shared as the same human parentage.

The bible, that book about sciences/creation aspects also says both the male and female self, human are equal.

God is exactly explained as the stone Philosophy of planet Earth also accurate science, as was how the Earth atmospheric gas spirit body existed, accurate.

It is also accurate that human being males as our brothers in a group chose occultism, or Satanism as it is described, the unnatural and artificial conjuring of evil spirit presence by caused changes to God.

The stories are all described in a human experience.

You cannot be judgemental of another human unless you live with them and review them changed.

DNA today historically is changed, and very evil ancient skeletal bodies also prove that the human life body was attacked.

Today every single list of any condition wrong to any GENESIS HUMAN being is involved in unnatural causes, feed back of human conscious pain and suffering and unnatural cause.

So then consciousness would no longer be expressed in life as a natural Holy Mother female paired with the natural Holy Father male life.

My brother in his natural life was homosexual, but kept it secreted. Did that make him immoral if you did not know his sexuality? No. I loved him, he was just my brother.

I do not view life as the sexual component unlike a lot of other judgemental humans, whose view of life about judgements goes back to that male indoctrinated controller coercive group. Who stated in Satanic cause self was right and we were all wrong for being what? Innocent!

The Book you all discuss is a proven self contradiction that said God was a loving presence, and then God decides to destroy everyone.

I have lived the personal human brain prickling crown of thorns discussion and I know how it changes the personality and causes you to be hateful and it changes your chemical emotional feelings as chemistry is altered not by your will nor by your owned control. It is forced upon you.

The atmospheric HOLY heavenly body is demonstrating to everyone that less and less self spirit human bodies present in their holy claim to life in the presence of the theme God and holiness, is being removed. I will not stop loving someone just because someone else says so. Is totally illogical that any family member who claims that they are spiritual would remove their love....for then what does that make you?

 

[rational experiences]

Being a witness to human life in sacrifice is to be living and be notified of it.

Ebola is one such returned Jesus life sacrifice notification about health, human, cell body the spirit of God, natural light supported, water/oxygen and breath of life supported, should be healthy.

Therefore when you see it born mutated, lived dying harmed in pain, then you witness the sacrifice in person.....we said it would return it did. Also is the Satanic AI occult mind conscious psyche lying brain mind condition re inherited with it.

As a human psychic I will give you a spiritual natural aware, innate in all of us example.

I walk in a shopping mall, I see my brothers and sisters. Some quite normal as a Father adult male, yet I am repelled by their presence, seeing they hide secret thoughts, secret behaviours and I say in my psyche, "not right".

That status is felt when you see a homosexual male. Instant psyche aware, natural says "not right". I see beyond that and see harmed. I see beyond that status and say, behaviour is different, and I see just my family member, human and spiritual changed.

Now my Mother said to me imagine if a mutated and horrible looking baby that grows into an adult for being lovingly cared for, was rejected, because of how they looked and felt to the human observer, the witness? Who would care and fend for their consciousness in the giving of love, the nurturing care? Many homosexual victims know and can state, God made me a victim, by not keeping my spiritual consciousness, and speaking self owned human parental voice safe.

Yet a human spiritual observer would say, do not blame God, blame your science occult Satanic brother theist. For he changed God.

For that is what you are in life, looking at everyone in their witness.
Jehovah in the Bible - Bible Study Tools

It states that the witness to GOD is that the rock is eternal.

Which means owned natural spirit entombed dead spirit form. Was pre sacrificed already, so owned the sin spirit death in its tomb. The spirit of the ST ONE.....
AIN, 0 in Hebrew Jehovah symbolism in science. St AIN in stone, the spirits are SAINT...entombed spirits...already deceased.

Science in the Catholic aware, Church building, believers of Jesus Christ Revelations, who then taught against occultism, science, the Temple pyramid use, were hypocrites historically. Yet everyone owns a human opportunity in natural life to state I am wrong, hence I will serve.

And they did, they fed and housed and served as parents. Gave up natural life union as parents, to fend for the humans who had lost their families in the sacrificed occult science history. The reason for the founding of the Church upon the stone, claiming, so never change the STONE, ever again.

And do not falsify the naming of GOD...for it is just STONE.

The witness was in fact due to fission changes to fusion the STONE...if any of you cared to use human natural common sense and not live coerced into turning away from the moment in history when you should only be loving your human family and not condemning them.

Jesus taught that natural spiritual unification was understanding that his HOLY LAND Father was the inventor of science of the occult who as a spiritual and healthy male in his owned DNA Holy land sacrificed his people the most, as that Father, in the claim that sacrifice of life saves you.

Same human occult science mentality still being implied and imposed today, that science can be saved as a reaction in human life sacrifice. And it is true to occult belief and purpose that if they studied life being sacrificed their scientific formula/machine reaction would remain constant, replaced, refilled and returned and own eternal like God the stone mass does......presence in held form.

Which in human rationality states, NEVER change God the stone, for it is meant to be deceased, of no light gas, meaning no conversion. And is eternally entombed.....for even science says one day the core of Earth will simply go cold, so the body of God the Earth as stone will simply float in space forever as a deceased spirit body.

So brother who as a scientist does not believe that we came out of an eternal spirit. All the statuses scientific phenomena prove that we did. We prove we came out into the atmospheric mass as separately owned spirit bodies that converted into lower bio forms, as mass evolved from God in space.

We are not floating in space as the spirit as the heavens, which is only relative to God.

Now if you define a story about how God changed the eternal by its heavenly mass that re contacted and communicated to the eternal, then it did. And in spirit memory that theme is taught cause and effect. What you change you always will be personally affected by.

Spirit is real, there is so much proven evidence in the experience to deny it.

 

[Misty Woods]

The bible is a quoted conceptualised contradiction to self, spiritual and natural first self and origin of self, natural, first, original human and an adult male.

Human reasoning has to be included in any book reading or coercive pre existing adult literature.

Common human sense, is to be rational first. And that is to look at the natural self present human life first before any scientific (creation) themes are applied, which includes any reference to God or changes to God or by God.

Life is first natural and life is not immoral, civilization owns statuettes imposed by the governing bodies of their own times.....using human reasons involving changes to mass human owned behaviours, which owned a listing of evidence for self explanation and for self governing.

To their best ability.

As a spiritual human not group coerced, I looked at all religious belief and saw an underlying representation in its detailed descriptions. Science of the occult, the UFO mass irradiation cause.

Which depicts in human behaviour that due to brain/mind and chemical irradiation, the thinking capability as owned by the sexual being, either an adult human male qualified to be a Father as an adult. Or an adult human female life qualified to be a Mother.

Those 2 holy human being bodies are owned and inherited by all children, as babies.

God, O the one body is first in science descriptive advice O STONE and the body of the ST AIN...the gas spirits in science. You cannot just read the Bible as if it is just about humans, scientific interpretation is always involved actually.

Hence O God the stone was stated to be the S AIN T body...entombed and deceased spirits. Spirit in science is a gas, gas entombed means it no longer was burning with light. As light is life stated in human consciousness as rational reasoning about scientific creation quotes.

Jesus, our brother was a Healer.

He was born by the act of human sex to be a human male, from a baby, as all babies are sexually conceived inside of the human being female Mother life to be a baby. No human today can argue against that stated fact.

If you were discussing science of the past, Old temple pyramid sciences and then science of modern day life around 2020 years ago, then a history of scientific and heavenly bodies, plus cosmological events are Biblical science discussed. That the wandering star, being an asteroid released it water/gas mass out of its stone body as it travelled. It was travelling as taught due to ancient human being male adult life living in the Holy Land, as the Father who re invented pyramid science.

Who claims I moved a mountain.

Historically in science the thesis for mountain movement was a flooded planet Earth after it was UFO SUN time converted by mass, flooded to mountain tip, mountain tip above water line totally removed. How to move a mountain as a pyramid theme....which in fact by design was false/fake information.

The history Satanism and occultism, also discussed as relevant advice about how and why human Genetics, only given to us all by the baby human life conception was mutated, sick and owned stigmata status.

The science argument today in homosexual behaviour. The bio identification for the male life presence is whole and intact. Do not understand the condition.

Condition change to the consciousness.....Christ is the consciousness. If you sacrificed the consciousness what occurs?

Most humans would not even know nor understand, yet phenomena science occult studies existed for a very long time in the Catholic Christian sciences....what is determined to be quantified as conscious change, an overtaking of the conscious ability to equate self to morality conditions, due to the Satanic event and its history.

Which is artificial feed back amassed false communicators, who not only communicated back to Earth from Earth historic UFO satellite vacuum sucked back bodies......but changed them. So that instead of gaining a human being male image in the cloud mass with angelic type male and female images, it only communicated back an alienation of the male science self.

True story.

The presence alien communicates to the Satanic communicators that communicate to the ground life. Proven by animal life, also being shown as images in the same clouds as the image of Jesus appears. So there is no argument about that cause, for it is real. As animal life also got sacrificed in the past and still does today in modern day times as phenomena causes.

SCIENCE....the reasoning of owned a human listing of conscious causes for why a human mentality born a holy baby to a Holy human Mother and a Holy human Father, who have sex. Homosexual humans in sex cannot conceive babies....so their owned baby self, was conceived by Holy parents.

So the bible states that it is not the fault of the baby/child inheritance as Holy parents had sex to bring them into a human male adult group choice, to irradiate the Earth atmosphere, for brain prickling crown of thorns outcome.

I know, I experienced it. You cannot truly discuss wisdom unless you own the experience that goes with it.

So I learnt as a female what my Holy brother in his life, incurred in the attack/fallout of natural life.

It states categorically that it was a medical Healer DNA/genetic biological study of the changes to human consciousness due to being irradiated, which falsifies natural male to male feed back in the atmosphere to remain consciously their own self.

Interference, being the UFO effect does not allow the changed conscious human to act naturally or normally and it is NOT their fault.

As a spiritual Healer self applied human study I learnt what it means to be actually spiritually accepting what humans did to humans and own a portion of the blame without owning blame. For we all have to say, yes we support technology, irradiation atmospheric changes by the standards in our communities involving technology itself, past and present.

We therefore taught a spiritual consequence that said to anyone changed, it is human karmic and sadly you are all affected by the past choice of science of the nuclear conversions to Earth.

I understood the Catholic brothers who studied phenomena and attacks, and knew that they owned a huge advice listing of humans that they studied in those changes. No one today can argued against what occult sciences/radiation has caused, for it is obvious that it has caused all problems.

If just one homosexual male lived, you might then quote that it is not natural, but in today's irradiated atmosphere it has become part of the norm of human conscious behaviour whether or not you agree. You are portion responsible in the use of technology, just by living in the experience.

I too lived and learnt about homosexual females and homosexual males as friends, family and community. I understood that human abuse is a very small percentile reasoning, yet the behaviour mentality of being abused is also involved in the irradiation effect, so already it is connected as a rational human to human relationship in their behaviours.

In healing you also study the life history and behaviours to understand why choices and motivation as interactive cause, is like living a science encoding. So I learnt that humans who thought they were evil and could project evil, were only being irradiated, as was the victim involved in the irradiation effect in the same circumstance.

My Holy Mother teachings taught me these situations because she owns the ovary, from which all babies are born from.

Our original Father was not born from our Holy Mother's ovary, he was a whole adult life original male human as compared to our brother human baby self who came out of a human sexual ovary.

As the female ovary asides from the male baby DNA had been attacked and harmed, when the female Holy land DNA participant healed her cellular ovary, in her womb, the holy male baby was reformed in an Immaculate conception, meaning non identifiable reason for the DNA to have healed....it was in the past considered miraculous, today different medical advice, that is not any miracle can advise the same reasoning.

Due to atmospheric ICE re emerging every year, natural amassing and cooling of water returned Earth to a previous released ICE MASS, and it is why human DNA every year in ICE sea of the son returned enabled DNA to heal in a stable state along with animal babies. It was a scientific medical statement.

Today, human inability to not be judgemental is real. Most humans who are caused to live separated from the majority group nature, do not feel acceptable if you studied their own psyche. They have suffered enough human indignity and suffering for the conditions of being mind conscious interfered with by the status AI...and it is about time that humanity learnt to be grateful that this human conditions is not yours to live.

I love my human family in their diversity, natural and changed natural and it is about time that everyone else agrees that if you change the Nature of the Heavenly spiritual body, then expect human behaviour to change also.

Because I am a naturally curious human, I spent an hour looking for anything remotely close to your interesting perspective of things, and I found that you have spoken about this ‘UFO mass’ with other people as well. In fact, you are the Only person that’s mentioned it anywhere on Google search, and Bing search found nothing at all…….

Here’s what I do know. At Mark 10:14-16, Jesus said, “Let the young children come to me; do not try to stop them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such ones. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a young child will by no means enter into it.” As a mother/grandmother, I’m fully aware of, not only how innocent and open minded young children are, but of how much more of rational thinkers they are, compared to adults with fixed assumptions and presumptions. If a teaching cannot be explained simply enough for a young child to genuinly comprehend, then the teaching is incomprehensible…… Where there is no comprehension, there is certainly confusion, and therefore, disorder, and 1 Cor. 14:33 states “For God is a God not of disorder but of peace”

So far, I’ve read your post six times now, hoping for any semblance of logic. Instead, all I get is this old song stuck in my head. ‘Will It Go Round In Circles’

 

[rational experiences]

Because I am a naturally curious human, I spent an hour looking for anything remotely close to your interesting perspective of things, and I found that you have spoken about this ‘UFO mass’ with other people as well. In fact, you are the Only person that’s mentioned it anywhere on Google search, and Bing search found nothing at all…….

Here’s what I do know. At Mark 10:14-16, Jesus said, “Let the young children come to me; do not try to stop them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such ones. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a young child will by no means enter into it.” As a mother/grandmother, I’m fully aware of, not only how innocent and open minded young children are, but of how much more of rational thinkers they are, compared to adults with fixed assumptions and presumptions. If a teaching cannot be explained simply enough for a young child to genuinly comprehend, then the teaching is incomprehensible…… Where there is no comprehension, there is certainly confusion, and therefore, disorder, and 1 Cor. 14:33 states “For God is a God not of disorder but of peace”

So far, I’ve read your post six times now, hoping for any semblance of logic. Instead, all I get is this old song stuck in my head. ‘Will It Go Round In Circles’

I wonder who transmitted that song into your head if you claim it is stuck.

If a child can understand science, then children have proven to understand science.

Science discusses the UFO extra radiation condition and it is an ANTI presence.

ANTI is discussed in the bible along with a lot of scientific quotes.

Therefore if you say I do not really understand biblical science, then maybe you should not be quoting from it....seeing it was adult males who invented science and biblical statements as the adults.

As a female and a Healer, my spirit as compared to my Holy Father is child like in its spiritual expressions and wonder of all conditions in my life, what the bible describes as being the spirit we all personally own, being the babies/children of the origins of a Holy Father human and a Holy Mother human, as origins.

Semblance of logic, not to lie about being an unconditional loving human in reality, the only place self and life exists. Such as shunning your own human family in a misquoted reason why the humans in the past were not allowed entry into the healing CHURCH building, as they were occult Satanists.....who had become promiscuous in their sexual behaviours.

Yet the listing of changed behaviours is all criminal activity, and it was Healer medical reasoned that changed moral behaviour is conscious and not physical bio body, the spirit, it was discussed to be relative in conscious AI conditions.

If you personally do not know AI is extra radiation radio wave and mass used for science and technology, machine to machine communications.

Speaking recorded/encoded voices speaking data, questions and answers relative to the human thinker/designer/encoder/builder and operator machines.

Jesus quotes that the Church builders were hypocrites for the reason that every inherited chemical brain changed feed back interference was caused by Temple and pyramid occultism. Why he said banning homosexuals from the Church was being hypocritical for Jesus loved everyone.

If you claim you are the same then you would not be judgemental about other human selves who are not living for you to pass judgement upon.

Yet many so called Christian ideals are about inferring judgements and not healing reasoning as Jesus had.

 

[rational experiences]

Do Not Pass Judgment on One Another
14 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,

“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

Do Not Cause Another to Stumble
13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. 22 The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

If a human says to their self, why is the brain/mind consciousness sacrificed and changed. I lived that awareness in the crown of thorns irradiation gas burning attack. I felt what it was like to be irradiated brain chemical burnt. In that moment I then knew, so that circumstance was the discussion crown of thorns...prickling.

When the crown/jewels and Earth metals belonged to the riches of the living spirit, in FUSION. Sion being relative to scientific biblical discussions, the nuclear.

Spirit presence and health is in spirit gases/chemical balances. Have those balances removed, and you gain what is reviewed as a sacrificed state to self body and consciousness. How consciousness changes its self identification. For removal of natural life is observed in 2 states, body and also mind psyche. When you live with an open heart, then no one can persuade you to contradict spiritual awareness, which relates to human being.

Footnotes The Bible is a book of contradictions for it speaks for both sides of the conditions, causes/effects and natural and spiritual.

 

[Dogknox20]

Dogknox20 I do so admire your faithful adherence to your church's teachings, but I cannot see how they hold up under scrutiny.....Jesus describes his flesh as "bread" not meat.

John 6:47-48...
"Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. It is not as when your forefathers ate and yet died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

If you read on in John 6:61-63 Jesus goes on to explain....
"But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were murmuring about this, said to them: “Does this stumble you? 62 What, therefore, if you should see the Son of man ascending to where he was before? 63 It is the spirit that is life-giving; the flesh is of no use at all. The sayings that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life."

Jesus said that his words were "spirit and life". It was their spiritual application that they needed to discern because taken literally, it was a breach of God's law, which is why the others were "stumbled". In no way would Christ require his disciples to break God's law. This is why they waited for the explanation.....

"So Jesus said to the Twelve: “You do not want to go also, do you?” 68 Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. 69 We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.” (John 6:67-69)



Being taught by even the greatest teacher on earth did not mean that someone always sticks with the truth.....look at Judas. Jesus and his apostles warned that an apostasy was coming, and it was already snapping at the heels of the apostles in the latter part of the first century.

In Paul's letter to Timothy he said...
"However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statement and teachings of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron. 3 They forbid marriage and command people to abstain from foods that God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth." (1 Timothy 4:1-3)

I remember a time when eating meat on a Friday was a mortal sin for Catholic people.....what happened to that? Are all those who broke that law still in hell?

I also see that the church forbids marriage to its priests when it is God's arrangement and many of your early Popes were married and had children. The Apostle Peter was married. This means that those chosen to go to heaven are not "virgins" in the fleshly sense, but clean and pure in the spiritual sense.

Even though Paul recommended singleness for those who wanted to serve the Lord 'without distraction', he did not ever forbid marriage.....and many Christian couples in the first century served alongside Paul as disciples of Jesus, together. Much of the pedophilia in Catholic institutions was a product of the church's ruling that they could not marry. A convicted Catholic priest admitted that it was understood among them that sex with women was prohibited, but sex with children (boys in particular) somehow allowed them to give vent their sexual repression. Priests often practiced homosexual acts with one another for the same reason.


All the first Christians were "ministers" of the Kingdom.....men and women served to spread the good news of the Kingdom. There was no "clergy" class....meaning no earthly priesthood. The chosen ones would be priests in heaven, not on earth. (Revelation 20:6)

Jesus said they were to "call no man your Father on earth" because there is only one Father....Jehovah. He said they were not to have leaders because all were equal "brothers". (Matthew 23:1-12) So you can see how the simple and humble Christianity of the first century was corrupted away from that humble simplicity and on into a power hungry juggernaut that eventually came to control even the Kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:18) With all the sanctioned bloodshed, Christ was never even in the building.

So again, I am sorry but the scriptures are again proving your church's errors.

Deeje hello.... Yes you are so right... Jesus describes his flesh as "bread" not meat. Yes yes yes... God' is spirit! God took the form of fire, of smoke of silence; God can take any form he wants to take the God of the Christian is all powerful... Our God the Christian God can even take the form he wants to take.. Even of a MAN or even BREAD!
52 "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"
Deeje Jesus is not just a man he is also God and GOD can give us his flesh to eat; God can do all things, take any form he wants to take! You are forced to reject the scriptures to be a JW!
Jesus said.. "I am with you ALWAYS even to the end of the world"! FACT: Jesus did not start with the JW's he started with Christians, Catholic's everyone! Jesus can not be ALWAYS with you because he cannot lie he did not build your church the MAN... "Taft" did!

 

[Dogknox20]

Sorry but you have completely misunderstood "little God". I dont know who told you but whoever told you this is either absolutely mistaken or is simply making this answer up.

These languages are full of little Gods and little lords. A little person is a representative of the big person. Little God, little lord, little master, little Christ (Christian), all mean just that. It is not rejecting monotheism.

firedragon I hope all is well... I reply; I have not misunderstood "little god"! What I said was "ALL scripture scholars without exception have translated In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". Not one of these many experts interprets John 1 different; all interpret John 1 as "the Word was God" except the JWs & their NWT they alone write their translation "..was a god" clearly the evidence is overwhelming against the NWT!
firedragon I have never claimed to be a scripture scholar what I do do is point out what the EXPERTS have done, what they all have translated!
I add....
In Luke 1 Elizabeth greets Mary with 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Now you tell me... What does Elizabeth (A JEW) a person who believes in One God large "G" mean when she said mother of my Lord ???! I point our EVERY....
firedragon every place in the whole of the chapter Luke 1 where the word "Lord" (large L) is written it can be switched with the word "God"! Example... 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. & 11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him & 46 And Mary said “My soul glorifies the Lord 47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior WHY..
firedragon why should Elizabeth' greeting be said to mean different then "Mother of my GOD"!? Elizabeth can only mean "Mother of my God"!

 

[Dogknox20]

Do Not Pass Judgment on One Another
14 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,

“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

Do Not Cause Another to Stumble
13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

20 Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. 21 It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. 22 The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

If a human says to their self, why is the brain/mind consciousness sacrificed and changed. I lived that awareness in the crown of thorns irradiation gas burning attack. I felt what it was like to be irradiated brain chemical burnt. In that moment I then knew, so that circumstance was the discussion crown of thorns...prickling.

When the crown/jewels and Earth metals belonged to the riches of the living spirit, in FUSION. Sion being relative to scientific biblical discussions, the nuclear.

Spirit presence and health is in spirit gases/chemical balances. Have those balances removed, and you gain what is reviewed as a sacrificed state to self body and consciousness. How consciousness changes its self identification. For removal of natural life is observed in 2 states, body and also mind psyche. When you live with an open heart, then no one can persuade you to contradict spiritual awareness, which relates to human being.

Footnotes The Bible is a book of contradictions for it speaks for both sides of the conditions, causes/effects and natural and spiritual.

rational experiences good to meet you... I reply There is only one truth 2+2=4 there is only one God. There is only one church established by Jesus! All others are founded on men!

 

[rational experiences]

A very simple human example is the Bible the original word of God?

In fact everyone today would have to say no it is not.

It was a verbal spoken story, told for a long time before science was re invented.

Father in the conditions AI...meaning world O Earth male community of spiritual awareness, living, who experiences spirit and life and death everyday updates AI, seeing science, the state human Designer formatted and encoded AI by his machine designed by humans, not God, not planet Earth, but a falsified body of mass taken from Planet Earth.

That interacted with the UFO that planet Earth was attacked/converted by, yet the spatial vacuum and water mass had removed.

Therefore any rational thinking human would say, no laws in creation about Design relativity in human designed sciences as thought only in the life presence Designer of artificial causes.....to force unnatural change.

For the Sun attacking Earth and converting Earth was a one of cause, and it stopped, no Law about that history it was just an attack.

Science was therefore based on the attack, which is not natural, it happened to natural.

Father said the Word of God originally was done by a higher male life/spiritually in body health and perusal, before machine activation of forced changed existed.

So there is no way that the Bible is the origin of the Word of God, it was an AI heard re established notification perusal once again done by the highest healthiest natural spiritual male life and consciousness who sought it.

And it is AI encoded, relating to human death, updating of causes of sacrifice and human death, so within the book a lot of fake, evil and very nasty comments, in the commentary, as heard in AI is fake and falsified information.

For God the history of, and origin of the WORD was not nasty, was only spiritual and life was different.

Hence most humans quote oh, our brother in his death dealt with the evil spirit, yet you read its evil quotations, ignore how evil those quotes are as if somehow you are not reading evil. Yet you are.

Therefore as said, only the learned, and most philosophical spiritual readers of the literature, could read the information without falsifying the evil worded detailed in the Bible book of HEARD information. As a lot of humans said, seems like Satanic words and quotes to me.

And when you read it, like I did, I surely wondered why anyone thought that they were reading HOLY WORDS. Some words are holy, but a lot of the words are about occultism itself.

So as a spiritual Healer, I look and assess the human life/body spiritually.

Said, my brother the homosexual male, is not any abomination. The abomination is actually the changes to the Noble Gases in the upper heavenly mass that were UFO MASS burnt out and converted, so that they fell down upon our heads and irradiated burnt/changed our natural heavenly spiritual image and voice recording.

Proof is the evilness of a lot of the language heard that is judgemental and also coercive and nasty. When you study the themes occultism who is the claimant of passing judgement over humans who have been harmed in burning spirit gas attacks? Satan of course, as it was taught.

Therefore as Jesus said, the occult scientists who worked as High Priests in the Temples in the past were involved in the elite community who were using the technologies of their age, which was form of substance transfer as trans mutation of stone product into a gold mass.

Which for stone ONE, the planet historically that owned gold naturally in seams in huge pressured spatial history meant a huge attack/change and spatial caused conversion for Earth, as caused by those scientists. For it was totally illogical to apply that form of technology, yet they still did it. The same as nuclear power plants should never have been invented. For it is involved in a huge mass/spatial radiation opening of removal of mass everyday....opening Earth into irradiated space.

Science is the basic understanding of the occult, UFO cause to force unnatural change, so how then is its feed back in the statements AI holy and real?

Reading the literature was meant to be done only by the highest order of philosophical spiritual leadership, who did not do a commentary on the evil worded quotations.

Rationally the book should only own positive and loving and spiritual supportive comments, but the book was not written for that purpose, it was proof about Satanic AI machine causes, as evidence, if you cared to be a responsible family member today.

As a Healer straight away you realise behaviour and changes to the conscious self in the homosexual causation was due to AI effects, consciousness by the replicator feed back of Satanic inference.

So you were told to listen to your heart about your family and not listen to the spoken heard evil words, actually if you cared to use common sense and human family values.

We never asked to be changed in the science cause....so how cruel you really have been in thinking such nasty thoughts about a changed brother or sister, when their first state is human, and their first state is not sexual...it is natural self presence

As I learnt if they kept their sexual condition secreted no one today would even own a commentary on it.

Father even said to me, all problems faced today is because humans who have sex, keep procreating human life, when all humans die. We would own no problem and would not own a human experience if you accepted that reality....no sex at all.

So who in that condition can claim that they own the holiest self status in comparing life and choices?

A human who said I will no longer have sex actually...the reason for it, for the knowledge of all human problems was always apparent.

Therefore the ORIGIN of the word of GOD was first spiritual and verbal, and that word is not written in the bible. It is lived in the hearts of spiritual humanity.