The last post is the WINNER!

[Revoltingest]

Reality check please!

Winning by be neither as confused, or whiny as Donny-boy, or his blind followers..

Biden dodged the draft too.
He just used his asthma instead of bone spurs.
(Liberals do love their military draft. Involuntary
servitude is a man's lot in life...serve the collective
without question. But no women...they're too weak.)

BTW, I too am a felonious draft dodger.
Dodging the draft is one thing that doesn't
bother me in the least. It's moral & useful.

 

[Stevicus]

Biden dodged the draft too.
He just used his asthma instead of bone spurs.
(Liberals do love their military draft. Involuntary
servitude is a man's lot in life...serve without
question.)

BTW, I too am a felonious draft dodger.
Dodging the draft is one thing that doesn't
bother me in the least. It's moral & useful.

The reason many people have a problem with a draft dodger as President is because that job is also Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces. That job may entail sending others to die - something they weren't willing to do themselves.

 

[Revoltingest]

The reason many people have a problem with a draft dodger as President is because that job is also Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces. That job may entail sending others to die - something they weren't willing to do themselves.

I have no problem with draft dodging.
It shows good judgement, & valuing life.
Perhaps a draft dodger would be less likely to
start a useless war, eh. I'm more peaceful than
blood'n guts veterans like John McCain, who
see war as this noble thing.
**** John McCain.
To me, war is a horror to avoid.

BTW, Hillary didn't serve.
She wasn't willing to risk her life in the military either.
Does that make her unqualified to be Commander In Chief?
I eagerly await the rationale that it's OK for her.

 

[ChristineM]

OK, but to be honest, at this moment, that is not exactly true

Actually, at this moment, it is

 

[Stevicus]

I have no problem with draft dodging.
It shows good judgement, & valuing life.
Perhaps a draft dodger would be less likely to
start a useless war, eh. I'm more peaceful than
blood'n guts veterans like John McCain, who
see war as this noble thing.
**** John McCain.
To me, war is a horror to avoid.

BTW, Hillary didn't serve.
She wasn't willing to risk her life in the military either.
Does that make her unqualified to be Commander In Chief?
I eagerly await the rationale that it's OK for her.

I knew a few Vietnam vets who felt similarly about McCain. They didn't like him. I knew that Hillary didn't serve, but I don't know the circumstances about she was willing or not willing. Her husband was also called a draft dodger. A lot of veterans hated him for that reason alone.

 

[Revoltingest]

I knew a few Vietnam vets who felt similarly about McCain. They didn't like him. I knew that Hillary didn't serve, but I don't know the circumstances about she was willing or not willing. Her husband was also called a draft dodger. A lot of veterans hated him for that reason alone.

We can discern whether Hillary was willing to serve
in the military. What's her enlistment record?
She didn't. Does lack of military service mean
she's unqualified to be Commander In Chief?

Do you think that only men should be compelled
to serve in the military? Should anyone be compelled?

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

We can discern whether Hillary was willing to serve
in the military. What's her enlistment record?
She didn't. Does lack of military service mean
she's unqualified to be Commander In Chief?

Do you think that only men should be compelled
to serve in the military? Should anyone be compelled?

I kind of like the idea of mandatory public service, probably for a period of two years following High School, for example. Kind of the price to be paid for being a citizen of the nation, on of the few RESPONSIBILITIES of being a citizen. Applies to males and females equally.

Could be military, but can't or don't want to serve that time in the military? Great! We need teachers' aides, we need people to staff and maintain public parks, we need people to help provide social and public health services...and so on. The 'public service' would include these and other roles, and very few (for true medical or handicapping problems) would be able to be exempted from finding any way to serve.

Certainly I haven't worked out all the details, but I prefer something like this to the current model.

 

[Revoltingest]

I kind of like the idea of mandatory public service, probably for a period of two years following High School, for example. Kind of the price to be paid for being a citizen of the nation, on of the few RESPONSIBILITIES of being a citizen. Applies to males and females equally.

It would never apply equally. Inherent sexism would
mean women never face the same dangers men do.

Setting that aside, there's the question of who owns
you. Does government own you for 2 years?
To what extent, eg, putting you in harms way?
What is the economic cost of government taking
people out of the economy, & putting them to
some use they didn't choose? (People forced
to do things they don't want aren't too productive.)

Could be military, but can't or don't want to serve that time in the military? Great! We need teachers' aides, we need people to staff and maintain public parks, we need people to help provide social and public health services...and so on. The 'public service' would include these and other roles, and very few (for true medical or handicapping problems) would be able to be exempted from finding any way to serve.

It sounds expensive...unless you think conscripts aren't
paid a real wage. Involuntary servitude without pay
sounds familiar...the word escapes me at the moment.

Certainly I haven't worked out all the details, but I prefer something like this to the current model.

The Devil lives in those details.

Oh, I almost forgot to say....
You're an evil commie.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

Winning without politics in a jokes thread!

 

[Estro Felino]

If I had said "most smartest", my high-school English teacher would have kindly told me to stay over.
Then,...after making sure the school is empty, she would have thrown me out of the window. And eventually, she would have written a suicide note, imitating my handwriting.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

It would never apply equally. Inherent sexism would
mean women never face the same dangers men do.

What the...?

Public service. So what if some jobs are not as hazardous as others? It's already that way in the private sector, and there are jobs in the military that are low-danger.

But really, your opening response is that universal public service is sexist? REALLY?

I've got to go now, things to do irl; I'll see if I can respond to your other points later.

 

[Revoltingest]

What the...?

I don't know where you're from, but here in Ameristan,
there's always been this attitude of not wanting women
to endure violence. But it's OK to imposed this upon
men. This sexism endures, & would play out in any
new conscription.

Public service. So what if some jobs are not as hazardous as others? It's already that way in the private sector, and there are jobs in the military that are low-danger.

In the private sector, people make this choice
for themselves. Government doesn't work
that way with conscription / involuntary service

But really, your opening response is that universal public service is sexist? REALLY?

It would be here.
And in other countries, how many have women
fighting up close & personal to the same extent
as men? Sexism is common around the world.

I've got to go now, things to do irl; I'll see if I can respond to your other points later.

OK.

 

[sun rise]

WRONG

 

[sun rise]

Draft dodging in the 60s. Winning in Atlanta before boarding next plane

 

[Estro Felino]

WRONG

These memes are just ...fun.

 

[ChristineM]

Draft dodging in the 60s. Winning in Atlanta before boarding next plane

I landed in Atlanta, it went down hill from there

 

[sun rise]

I landed in Atlanta, it went down hill from there

On Myrtle Beach plane

 

[ChristineM]

On Myrtle Beach plane

A slow circuitous and meandering drive (4 days) stopping at various places on the way to New Orleans.

 

[ChristineM]

On Myrtle Beach plane

Whats at Myrtle beach that is of interest to you?

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

I don't know where you're from, but here in Ameristan,
there's always been this attitude of not wanting women
to endure violence. But it's OK to imposed this upon
men. This sexism endures, & would play out in any
new conscription.

In the private sector, people make this choice
for themselves. Government doesn't work
that way with conscription / involuntary service

It would be here.
And in other countries, how many have women
fighting up close & personal to the same extent
as men? Sexism is common around the world.

OK.

It is not winning to have this discussion in this winning thread. When I get back here for longer, later today, I will start a new thread specifically to discuss universal public service and how--and why--it might differ from male-only military conscription.