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Stevicus

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The Gila monster, Heloderma suspectum is one of two species of venomous lizards found in the world. It is also the only venomous lizard found in the US. Along with the Mexican beaded lizard, Heloderma horridum, comprises the only venomous lizard species known. They are large, colorful, desert-dwelling species of the US southwest and Sonoran desert region of Mexico. Unlike other lizards, the tail of these lizards is not autonomous and does not break off as predator defense. The tail is a fat reserve. A sort of between-meal snack.

The venom apparatus is a series of grooved teeth over which venom flows and is ground into the wound created when these lizards bite.

They can reach lengths of two feet (H. suspectum) to three feet (H. horridum) making the Gila monster the largest lizard in the United States.

It appears that H. horridum has been split into three species recently. Something I was unaware of.

Just a fun fact.

I spent the time in herpetology. Might as well use some of it.

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Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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You're obviously not lazy enough to be a beard owner.
Some of us lazy dudes are just too lazy to grow proper facial hair.

I'm surprised there are no venomous lizards in Australia. It's almost as if the continent decided to let someplace else have that one.

What is your turtle life like there?
 

John53

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Some of us lazy dudes are just too lazy to grow proper facial hair.

I'm surprised there are no venomous lizards in Australia. It's almost as if the continent decided to let someplace else have that one.

What is your turtle life like there?

I often see green sea turtles in the river. And we have a lot of eastern long-necked turtles, I've wasted much of my life rescuing them off roads.
 

Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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I often see green sea turtles in the river. And we have a lot of eastern long-necked turtles, I've wasted much of my life rescuing them off roads.
I do my best to avoid the various turtles crossing the roads. I heard of a guy that would intentionally run them over. Thought it was funny. Until he ran over one that popped his tire and nearly caused him to wreck. Some would say karma. I would say good. Someone or something needed to teach him.
 

Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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I often see green sea turtles in the river. And we have a lot of eastern long-necked turtles, I've wasted much of my life rescuing them off roads.
We have 15 or 20 species here. From the small, semi-aquatic stinkpot to the great alligator snapping turtle. There are only a couple of fully terrestrial species of box turtles. I like turtles.
 

Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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I often see green sea turtles in the river. And we have a lot of eastern long-necked turtles, I've wasted much of my life rescuing them off roads.
Those things do have long necks.

I'd be astonished if I saw a sea turtle anywhere around these parts so far from the seas as we are. Though I'm told that a shark could possibly navigate the Mississippi this far north. I don't know that it would fare too well though. We have gars. They small ones look like clarinets floating in the water. Clarinet-shaped anyway.
 

John53

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We have 15 or 20 species here. From the small, semi-aquatic stinkpot to the great alligator snapping turtle. There are only a couple of fully terrestrial species of box turtles. I like turtles.

I'm not sure how many we have here. There's short necked turtles but I think I've only seen them once, there were dozens of them sunning themselves on logs in creek, there was so many that it was multi layer turtle.
 

Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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I'm not sure how many we have here. There's short necked turtles but I think I've only seen them once, there were dozens of them sunning themselves on logs in creek, there was so many that it was multi layer turtle.
I'll be glad when I feel better. I want to get back out and look around at the fall wildlife.

Got my van back. Runs OK. It was all I could do to drive it the short distance home. I thought about going back out, but I don't want to risk it the way I feel. Or spread my good cheer further than it needs to be.
 

Dan From Smithville

These are not the droids you're looking for. O-WK
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I'm not sure how many we have here. There's short necked turtles but I think I've only seen them once, there were dozens of them sunning themselves on logs in creek, there was so many that it was multi layer turtle.
It says in the Great Google that Australia only has six species. Now that surprises me.
 
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