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The law of God, still abides.

Scripture teaches that men ought to, "Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." - Ecclesiastes 12:13. Christ's testimony, is that, "I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love." - John 15:10. Christ did not just keep the law for his own good but for, "an example, that ye should follow his steps:" - 1Peter 2:21. In the plan of human redemption, the life of Christ is essential. His life is a testimony, that humanity and divinity can overcome sin; but we need to follow his example, especially obedience to his law.


Scripture also teaches that, "until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law." "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." And that, "by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" - Romans 5:12,1John 3:4, Romans 5:13. The testimony of the scriptures stated, is that at the creation, man was place under God's law and it was the violation of his law that brought sin and death into this world. It also testifies that, so long as God's creation continues, so long will his law continue. The law wrought love, the main principle of heaven. Love worketh no ill, but Christ was wounded and crucified for the violation of this principle. Christ dying on the cross is the most strongest argument, that his law can never be annulled or abrogated. If the law could have been changed, Christ could have been spared from his cruel death; but nevertheless, "Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" - 1Peter 3:18.


Christ did not only die for our sins, and to do away with the pending death sentence against us; but for the new covenant promises which scripture has made mention of,"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people." "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people. and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest."- Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10-11. The new covenant promise is that, God will write his law upon our mind and heart, this too, is another evidence that his law is ever abiding and that man is under solemn obligation to keep every precept of the law. In writing the law upon our heart and mind, God is ensuring that every man will know his will from the least to the greatest. God's will is that everyone should have true knowledge of sin. That sin is a violation of his law, and that its wages is death.- Romans 6:23. By obtaining this knowledge, conversion will begin, men will turn to Christ, who alone can save man from death and restore their relationship with God. But if man disregard his law, how then shall he know he is a sinner, and that he needs Christ to make him righteous and holy? So the law remains and cannot be changed. In closing I leave you with the words of the saviour, “Till heaven and earth pass,” said Jesus, “one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” The sun shining in the heavens, the solid earth upon which you dwell, are God’s witnesses that His law is changeless and eternal. Though they may pass away, the divine precepts shall endure. “It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.” Luke 16:17. The system of types that pointed to Jesus as the Lamb of God was to be abolished at His death; but the precepts of the Decalogue are as immutable as the throne of God. - DA 308.3.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
law for this life.....or the next?

I see that Man, though knowing of law, is a dismal failure to abiding to what he knows.

I suspect greater disciplines in the next life.
a greater law is pending
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Scripture teaches that men ought to, "Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." - Ecclesiastes 12:13. Christ's testimony, is that, "I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love." - John 15:10. Christ did not just keep the law for his own good but for, "an example, that ye should follow his steps:" - 1Peter 2:21. In the plan of human redemption, the life of Christ is essential. His life is a testimony, that humanity and divinity can overcome sin; but we need to follow his example, especially obedience to his law.


Scripture also teaches that, "until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law." "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." And that, "by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" - Romans 5:12,1John 3:4, Romans 5:13. The testimony of the scriptures stated, is that at the creation, man was place under God's law and it was the violation of his law that brought sin and death into this world. It also testifies that, so long as God's creation continues, so long will his law continue. The law wrought love, the main principle of heaven. Love worketh no ill, but Christ was wounded and crucified for the violation of this principle. Christ dying on the cross is the most strongest argument, that his law can never be annulled or abrogated. If the law could have been changed, Christ could have been spared from his cruel death; but nevertheless, "Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" - 1Peter 3:18.


Christ did not only die for our sins, and to do away with the pending death sentence against us; but for the new covenant promises which scripture has made mention of,"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people." "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people. and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest."- Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10-11. The new covenant promise is that, God will write his law upon our mind and heart, this too, is another evidence that his law is ever abiding and that man is under solemn obligation to keep every precept of the law. In writing the law upon our heart and mind, God is ensuring that every man will know his will from the least to the greatest. God's will is that everyone should have true knowledge of sin. That sin is a violation of his law, and that its wages is death.- Romans 6:23. By obtaining this knowledge, conversion will begin, men will turn to Christ, who alone can save man from death and restore their relationship with God. But if man disregard his law, how then shall he know he is a sinner, and that he needs Christ to make him righteous and holy? So the law remains and cannot be changed. In closing I leave you with the words of the saviour, “Till heaven and earth pass,” said Jesus, “one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” The sun shining in the heavens, the solid earth upon which you dwell, are God’s witnesses that His law is changeless and eternal. Though they may pass away, the divine precepts shall endure. “It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.” Luke 16:17. The system of types that pointed to Jesus as the Lamb of God was to be abolished at His death; but the precepts of the Decalogue are as immutable as the throne of God. - DA 308.3.

I disagree??? :confused: Whats the debate?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
law for this life.....or the next?
I see that Man, though knowing of law, is a dismal failure to abiding to what he knows.
I suspect greater disciplines in the next life.
a greater law is pending

Interesting that you say ' a greater law is pending ' because according to Scripture the ' next life ', so to speak, for the humble living 'sheep'-like people on earth at the soon coming ' time of separation ' on earth of Matthew 25:31-32 will be living under Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over earth.- Revelation 20:6; Revelation 5:9-10.
Those righteous 'sheep' - Matthew 25:37 - can remain alive on earth, and continue to live on earth right into the start of Jesus' coming 1,000 year governmental rulership over earth, when Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
 

b.finton

In the Unity of Faith
I suspect greater disciplines in the next life.
a greater law is pending
I (the bumbler) cautiously agree, stipulating that it takes three perspectives to establish a point.

The age/reign of messiah in the human heart requires the discipline of no discipline. Resist not: it's the way of love. Openings and closings are not truly in our hands, anyway. Why pretend that they are?

A glorious walk of liberty awaits the brothers of Y'Shua in Yahushua whose words and deeds demonstrate peace.

b.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
It helps to understand why there is law. In order for God to be just there needs to be law that defines offences, punishment and redemption. Before the Mosaic Law man was a law unto himself and therefore accountable. The new law of faith in Christ nullifies the the old laws of sin that dwell in the flesh in that the believer in Christ has symbolically died to the flesh and a new law of the new man redeems mankind through the sacrifices of Christ.
 
LOL. You mean he did away with the death sentence that he forced us into in the first place? What a hero.

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You don't pay your cellphone Bill and your service get cut off, who fault is it?
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
You don't pay your cellphone Bill and your service get cut off, who fault is it?

I don't know, did I get to choose whether or not to purchase a cell phone plan in the first place?

Or did the cell phone company tell me, simply by being born I'm automatically locked into a lifetime plan whether I want to be or not?
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
Please quote Bible verse that says the law is done away with.
There is no verse that says that. Therefore the Mosaic Law still stands. It just doesn't apply to those in Christ. There rules for traffic law don't apply to car purchases do they. The book of Romans backed up by Galatians explains it.
 
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