The Little Horn of Revelation

[OtherSheep]

Do you mean little horn?

The Bible's word for donkey gets starred-out, but the monk's word for horn doesn't.

 

[OtherSheep]

Notes to myself. So the fact that there is a tradition of the city of Jerusalem being built on seven hills puts it into contention as the Whore of Babylon. Apparently Jerusalem was once known as Zion. Zechariah 9:13 Scarlet came to be used as a symbol of working class rebellion, communism.

notes to your notes: Zechariah is future-tense. It runs parallel to Daniel and Revelation?

 

[OtherSheep]

Well it's evidence that you have no clue or idea about anything, nothing you said makes no sense at all and doesn't line up to Revelation,

Seeing that Jesus Christ has already gave the interpretation of all things in his book of Revelation himself.

Jesus says that the Holy Spirit will (1) remind His sheep what Jesus said and (2) tell His sheep what Jesus meant.

The book of Revelation is only open to those who keep/do the words of Jesus, in order to have access to the Holy Spirit in His role as Interpreter.

 

[OtherSheep]

Yeah, it is one of the dearest symbols for Hindus (Star of David is another), and it means 'welfare of all' (Su + asti = May Good Happen).

Are you sure your star of David isn't actually the 6-pointed star of Solomon? The kingdom was ripped out of Solomon's hand, via his son. And the Prophet says that 10-north-Israel is a repurposed vessel... but that Judah lies smashed and will never be reformed.

In addition, many people have worshipped the sun, and used the sun-wheel as its symbol. It's only Germanophobia that keeps Northerners from using it, these superficially-darkened days. TGFTI!

 

[sooda]

Do you really see the word Jew in the Ugarit Tablets? Or are you assuming something?


Esther says for fear of the Jews, even Persians were converted... and then there's this:

G25:1 "And Abraam again took a wife, whose name was Chettura. 5 But Abraam gave all his possessions to Isaac his son. 6 But to the sons of his concubines Abraam gave gifts, and he sent them away from his son Isaac, while he was yet living, to the east into the country of the east."

J8:37 "I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill Me, because My word hath no place in you."

R2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan."

Isn't calling themselves Jews their blasphemy? Saying you're chosen of God but seeking to kill God... and actually killing Him in the name of the Pharisees: whom Jesus tells us in the parable, killed Him for His inheritance. Jesus said that the Pharisees would be crushed by the stone of stumbling... Daniel says the same thing of the composite beast. 1 + 1 = 2.

It ain't rocket science.

You're right.. It isn't rocket science. the Ugaritic Tablets are 1500 years older than the "Jews".. and the Jews borrowed from them liberally.

 

[sooda]

Jesus says that the Holy Spirit will (1) remind His sheep what Jesus said and (2) tell His sheep what Jesus meant.

The book of Revelation is only open to those who keep/do the words of Jesus, in order to have access to the Holy Spirit in His role as Interpreter.

Actually, Revelation is only open to those who have studied first century history and the symbolism used in those days. Its a letter written to the 7 Jewish congregations about what was happening and what would happen soon.

 

[sooda]

notes to your notes: Zechariah is future-tense. It runs parallel to Daniel and Revelation?

Daniel is fiction. He never existed and his "prophecy" ends during the Maccabean Revolt in 165 BC. Its about Antiochus IV Epiphanes. Daniel is NOT considered a prophet in Judaism... for good reason.

Zacharia lived 6 centuries before Jesus..

Zechariah 9:9 was fulfilled when the Jewish people celebrated with palm branches the restoration and re-consecration of the Temple by Judas Maccabees during the Maccabean Wars of the second century B.C.

 

[OtherSheep]

written to the 7 Jewish congregations

People seem to be skipping over the Letters to the Seven Churches of Asia.

Revelation 2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

Matthew 27:25 "Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children."

John 8:44 "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus said that to the Jews who claimed to believe on Him; but they weren't his disciples because they didn't continue with Him. Faith without works is dead... especially when good works get replaced with murder and lies and blasphemies of the Holy Spirit... both the Pharisees and the Jews did that.
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Don't let your enemies write your history.

 

[sooda]

People seem to be skipping over the Letters to the Seven Churches of Asia.

Revelation 2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

Matthew 27:25 "Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children."

John 8:44 "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus said that to the Jews who claimed to believe on Him; but they weren't his disciples because they didn't continue with Him. Faith without works is dead... especially when good works get replaced with murder and lies and blasphemies of the Holy Spirit... both the Pharisees and the Jews did that.
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Don't let your enemies write your history.

In the first century the Jews were fractured.. with one group calling the other collaborators or apostates or Hellenized. They were fighting each other and the Romans.. Titus was having an affair with Herod's granddaughter so the play on words was Whore of Babylon.

 

[OtherSheep]

Daniel is NOT considered a prophet in Judaism... for good reason.

Then you've chosen Judaism over the words of Jesus.

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,"

 

[OtherSheep]

In the first century the Jews were fractured.. with one group calling the other collaborators or apostates or Hellenized.

The pot calling the kettle black, since they openly tell us they are the Greeks.

 

[sooda]

Then you've chosen Judaism over the words of Jesus.

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,"

Daniel was not a prophet.. There was no Daniel.. Whoever the authors were they told a screwed up history of Babylon.. and in 165 BC as a way of encouraging the Jews they wrote about the Abomination of Desolation Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

 

[OtherSheep]

You're right.. It isn't rocket science. the Ugaritic Tablets are 1500 years older than the "Jews".. and the Jews borrowed from them liberally.

Borrowed = Copied the writings of the lands they invaded and signed their name to it.

Invaded, except in the case of Sumer, which brought writing into Akkadian Babylon.

 

[sooda]

The pot calling the kettle black, since they openly tell us they are the Greeks.

What? Are you talking about the Greek cities of the Decapolis or the Jews who lived round about Galilee? You do know about the Decapolis, don't you? They were prosperous so were the Jews in the North.. That's one reason the Jerusalem Jews hated them.

 

[sooda]

Borrowed = Copied the writings of the lands they invaded and signed their name to it.

Invaded, except in the case of Sumer, which brought writing into Akkadian Babylon.

Who are you claiming they invaded? Abraham's warlord years are covered in Genesis 14.

 

[OtherSheep]

QUOTE="OtherSheep, post: 6203339, member: 64612"]
Then you've chosen Judaism over the words of Jesus.

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,"[/QUOTE

QUOTE="sooda, post: 6203348, member: 66031"]
Daniel was not a prophet.. There was no Daniel.. Whoever the authors were they told a screwed up history of Babylon.. and in 165 BC as a way of encouraging the Jews they wrote about the Abomination of Desolation Antiochus IV Epiphanes.[/QUOTE

You don't believe Jesus, sooda. It is as simple as that.
Jesus never encouraged the Jews; in fact, Matthew and John both show the opposite.

 

[sooda]

QUOTE="OtherSheep, post: 6203339, member: 64612"]
Then you've chosen Judaism over the words of Jesus.

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,"[/QUOTE

QUOTE="sooda, post: 6203348, member: 66031"]
Daniel was not a prophet.. There was no Daniel.. Whoever the authors were they told a screwed up history of Babylon.. and in 165 BC as a way of encouraging the Jews they wrote about the Abomination of Desolation Antiochus IV Epiphanes.[/QUOTE

You don't believe Jesus, then, sooda.

The Book of Daniel is a fiction from start to finish.. Its based on a popular character named Dan'el from a Canaanite poem 1500 years earlier in Syria.

Jesus certainly didn't write it.

 

[OtherSheep]

The Book of Daniel is a fiction from start to finish.. Its based on a popular character named Dan'el from a Canaanite poem 1500 years earlier in Syria.

Jesus certainly didn't write it.

Jesus quoted it.
You say it never existed.
One of these things isn't true.

 

[sooda]

Jesus quoted it.
You say it never existed.
One of these things isn't true.

Who said Jesus quoted it?

Daniel was a complete fiction written by many Jewish authors over a long period of time. In the last addition they were encouraging the Jews during the abomination of Antiochus IV and the Maccabean Revolt.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Who said Jesus quoted it?

Daniel was a complete fiction written by many Jewish authors over a long period of time. In the last addition they were encouraging the Jews during the abomination of Antiochus IV and the Maccabean Revolt.

Matthew 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ as was spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—

See Daniel 11:31