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The Logic of God

Thief

Rogue Theologian
knowing ones limitations is a good thing it allows for one to focus on the important issues



no i can't, nor do i pretend to...unlike, ahem you do.


i don't know about you but chasing my own tail got old in my 20's

I happen to be chasing Something greater than myself.

You gave up too soon.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Here you go.

knowing ones limitations is a good thing it allows for one to focus on the important issues

no i can't, nor do i pretend to...unlike, ahem you do.

i don't know about you but chasing my own tail got old in my 20's

But you actually do chase around yourself....continually.
It was God you gave up.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
My first exposure was the work of st. Thomas Aquinas.

But the same work also demonstrated that dogmatic belief is difficult to support with logic.
Ironically, His effort to support his belief with as much formal technique as he could muster.....led me to drop dogmatic belief.

Still, logic and reason are found in those people having faith.

What many participants here incorrectly do....
insist in 'proof' tangible.....and if not....then claim the effort "illogical'.

I didn't realize the works of St. Thomas were considered religious texts.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I didn't realize the works of St. Thomas were considered religious texts.

The other four motivations are inappropriate labels.
The text was not military....monetary....or political.

Did you read the work?
And you thought it was something other than religious?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Let's try something a bit more fun....from a thread I started years ago....

There is a long standing belief that the fall of the angelic..one third of heaven...was brought on by a division....an argument.

God...having made Man...a little less than the angelic...said to the angels...
"Man is fragile...follow after him and see to it, that he dash not his toes...nor his head."

One third of the angelic said "nay".
"For that Man is less than we are... He should be made to serve us."

There is nothing wrong in that logic.
Man does so unto lesser creatures in every way.

We... chain our dogs, and expect their loyalty...keeping to one master...even though it is their nature to run free in packs, and hunt at will.
We.... saddle and bridle our horses...and expect them to take us wherever we desire...and we break their spirits that they will obey.
We.... cage little birds..that they sing for our pleasure...but the little creature sings for a mate he will never find. There will be no nest...no offspring...and he will die in his solitude.
We...readily kill anything that cannot be made to serve us...any disobedient animal.

A fight broke out. Brother angel against Brother angel.
One third of the angelic fell from grace...losing their positions in heaven.
They lost their place because of an argument...concerning something that looks like you.
They want you dead.
Two thirds of heaven lost their Brothers because of an
argument...concerning something that looks like you.

Do you not bear resemblance to the one third fallen?
Do you not perform unto lesser things...and your fellowman ...as you will?

Are you not concerned..what...or who...will be standing over you...
When you lay down to breath your last breathe?
(end quote)

Whose logic is greater?
Your?...God's....the Fallen angels?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
The other four motivations are inappropriate labels.
The text was not military....monetary....or political.

Did you read the work?
And you thought it was something other than religious?

No, when I said religious text, I meant:

Religious texts, also known as scripture, scriptures, holy writ, or holy books, are the texts which various religious traditions consider to be sacred, or of central importance to their religious tradition.

Religious text - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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