3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
Your response here...3rdAngel said: ↑ As highlighted in the last post. You hold a view of someone that does not know God trying to talk to someone that does know God. As explained earlier it is like me taking a bite of an apple and asking you what does my apple taste like. You can never know it because you do not know God. We can never know God or find God unless we first come to God by faith which is the condition to knowing God. *Jeremiah 29:13; Hebrews 11:6. Take a bite of the apple what have you got to lose. There is many things we cannot see in life but we know are there one way or another (wind, electricity, sound waves, emotions etc). Just because we cannot see something does not mean it is not real.
Where did I ever say or suggest such a thing? - I didn't and no we do not agree here. Of course God is external to the individual mind.We are agreed, then, that God does not exist external to the individual mind.
Your response here...3rdAngel said: ↑I think you missed the point of my last post while ignoring the definition of scripture in 2 Timothy 3:16 and that is πᾶς γραφή θεόπνευστος which you ignored states that all scripture or the definition of scripture is that it is God breathed or inspired by God. 2 Timothy 3:16 here is simply a definition of what scripture is. Scripture is defined as being God's words for mankind inspired by God. As posted earlier this was in the minds of the Apostles and the NT authors. John calls Jesus God in John 1:1-4; 14 as does Paul and the other Apostles fitting the bibles definition of scripture. Therefore all the NT is God's inspired Words that have their origin from the old testament scriptures and their fulfillment in the NT scriptures. This definition makes all the words of Jesus and the Apostles in the NT scripture according to 2 Timothy 3:16.
If you did not miss the point you simply ignored what was posted to you from the Greek and also the objective examples provided of the Apostles and gospel writers view of Jesus as God where scripture comes from as evidence to the NT writings as being scripture. 2 Timothy is simply a definition of what scripture is which includes both the old and new testament.I don't think I missed the point. I think you missed the point, in failing to provide the test, necessarily objective, that will tell the reader whether what she or he is reading is god-inspired or not. Without such a test, "God-inspired" is just an opinion, not a factual state of affairs.
Last edited: