"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

[Brian2]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are four gospels, not one, no? The first one written was Mark, around 75 CE. There was one earlier version of Jesus, namely Paul's. Of the other three models of Jesus, Matthew and Luke have similarities, but John's is closer in many ways to Paul's.

There are 4 texts but one gospel really, and the earliest was written probably in the mid 50s, 20 something years after Jesus died and the other 2 synoptics would have been written before 70AD according to the evidence and if we don't assume that prophecy is untrue and that they had to have been written after 70AD, the destruction of the Temple date. There may have been writings circulating before the mid 50s also.
If you read Acts 9:1-30 and Acts 11:19-30 you will see that Paul spent plenty of time with Christians in different places. When he was converted Jesus said to him. "Saul, why do you kick against the goad?"
It was like Saul had put thought into who Jesus was and was in denial and turned completely against the idea of Jesus being the Messiah even though it kept pricking him.

No, Paul never met Jesus. And he says

Galatians 1:11 For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not man's gospel. 12 For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ.​

and what Paul claims to know about the biography of Jesus will fit into two or three lines.

Paul spent time with and learnt a lot from the early Church about Jesus. That is obvious. But it seems that he had worked out from what he already known of Jesus that he could be the Messiah and what the gospel was. He was learned in the scriptures and could see the potential prophecies about Jesus and what he had done and could see the gospel in the Hebrew scriptures. (something you still can do of course)
Paul was able to preach the gospel early upon being converted because he knew about it from the OT, it had been revealed to him.
Paul probably knew plenty about the biography of Jesus, having spent time in various churches, but he knew he did not have to tell people about that in his letters. Just because he does not write a biography in his letters does not mean that he did not know about Jesus life.
John, being a later writer of the gospel, puts in it things that had not been witnessed to in the synoptics but were still present in the early church. If you think Paul and John are similar then it is plain that what John wrote was in the earlier church while Paul was there and preaching.
Neither of them are gnostic, they are anti gnostic.

In my view that claim is not sustainable. There are five distinct versions of Jesus in the NT. Paul's and John's are influenced by gnosticism, lived in heaven with God, and created the material universe. Mark's is an ordinary Jew who doesn't become son of God till God adopts him (on the model of David in Psalm 2:7) on his baptism; and Matthew's and Luke's are the product of the divine insemination of a virgin.

That is only 3 versions. But you don't say how they are contradictory. They actually add to each other. So we get a more full picture of Jesus.
Mark does not say that Jesus became God's Son at His baptism. Mark just starts his story there at the baptism.
The impregnation of a virgin shows that God is the Father of Jesus and that He came from heaven. John makes this more clear.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There are 4 texts but one gospel really, and the earliest was written probably in the mid 50s, 20 something years after Jesus died and the other 2 synoptics would have been written before 70AD according to the evidence and if we don't assume that prophecy is untrue and that they had to have been written after 70AD, the destruction of the Temple date. There may have been writings circulating before the mid 50s also.
If you read Acts 9:1-30 and Acts 11:19-30 you will see that Paul spent plenty of time with Christians in different places. When he was converted Jesus said to him. "Saul, why do you kick against the goad?"
It was like Saul had put thought into who Jesus was and was in denial and turned completely against the idea of Jesus being the Messiah even though it kept pricking him.



Paul spent time with and learnt a lot from the early Church about Jesus. That is obvious. But it seems that he had worked out from what he already known of Jesus that he could be the Messiah and what the gospel was. He was learned in the scriptures and could see the potential prophecies about Jesus and what he had done and could see the gospel in the Hebrew scriptures. (something you still can do of course)
Paul was able to preach the gospel early upon being converted because he knew about it from the OT, it had been revealed to him.
Paul probably knew plenty about the biography of Jesus, having spent time in various churches, but he knew he did not have to tell people about that in his letters. Just because he does not write a biography in his letters does not mean that he did not know about Jesus life.
John, being a later writer of the gospel, puts in it things that had not been witnessed to in the synoptics but were still present in the early church. If you think Paul and John are similar then it is plain that what John wrote was in the earlier church while Paul was there and preaching.
Neither of them are gnostic, they are anti gnostic.




That is only 3 versions. But you don't say how they are contradictory. They actually add to each other. So we get a more full picture of Jesus.
Mark does not say that Jesus became God's Son at His baptism. Mark just starts his story there at the baptism.
The impregnation of a virgin shows that God is the Father of Jesus and that He came from heaven. John makes this more clear.

A horizontal reading of the four gospels.demonstrate that there are four different ones. Bart Ehrman suggests using this technique.

 

[Brian2]

You mean "from the beginning of Christianity". That is quite different to " from the beginning ". And that is clearly not the gospel since the various gospels are organized telling of those stories.

Yes from the beginning of Christianity".
The gospel message is what was preached on at Pentecost (Acts 2)
The 4 texts of Jesus life and ministry etc are called gospels because they contain the gospel message.
Gospel means the good news. It is the good news that the Jewish Messiah has come and was killed as prophesied and rose from the dead as prophesied and that God made Him a sacrifice for sin and has shown that He approves of Jesus by raising Him from the dead. Jesus is the Lord, the Son of God, and is the mediator of the New Covenant (prophesied in the OT) and has initiated the Kingdom of God.
The gospel message is rather short compared to the 4 texts, which end up giving more background, just as the OT gives even more background.

 

[Brian2]

A horizontal reading of the four gospels.demonstrate that there are four different ones. Bart Ehrman suggests using this technique.

There are certainly 4 different texts and each gives more information about Jesus.
I find it easier to read the gospels while seated. I think if I was horizontal there would be a chance that I would fall asleep.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes from the beginning of Christianity".
The gospel message is what was preached on at Pentecost (Acts 2)
The 4 texts of Jesus life and ministry etc are called gospels because they contain the gospel message.
Gospel means the good news. It is the good news that the Jewish Messiah has come and was killed as prophesied and rose from the dead as prophesied and that God made Him a sacrifice for sin and has shown that He approves of Jesus by raising Him from the dead. Jesus is the Lord, the Son of God, and is the mediator of the New Covenant (prophesied in the OT) and has initiated the Kingdom of God.
The gospel message is rather short compared to the 4 texts, which end up giving more background, just as the OT gives even more background.

Now you are making the error of assuming that the Pentecost occurred.

Also the concept of Jesus being a sacrifice is one of the failures of Christianity. It is not a feature.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There are certainly 4 different texts and each gives more information about Jesus.
I find it easier to read the gospels while seated. I think if I was horizontal there would be a chance that I would fall asleep.

No, they give contradicting information.

 

[blü 2]

There are 4 texts but one gospel really, and the earliest was written probably in the mid 50s, 20 something years after Jesus died and the other 2 synoptics would have been written before 70AD according to the evidence and if we don't assume that prophecy is untrue and that they had to have been written after 70AD, the destruction of the Temple date. There may have been writings circulating before the mid 50s also.

There are the letters of Paul, though they weren't known till the mid-2nd century. As I said, in toto they give us a bio of Jesus that fits in a couple of lines.

The first gospel written is Mark. It can be dated to the mid 70s CE by inter alia (a) Jesus' prediction of the sack of Jerusalem (Mark 13:2) which happens in 70 CE, and (b) the use of Josephus' Wars as template for the trial scene, a work not available till 75 CE.

If you read Acts 9:1-30 and Acts 11:19-30 you will see that Paul spent plenty of time with Christians in different places.

But he's VERY lacking in interest about the real Jesus. For example he goes to Jerusalem to stay a fortnight with the leaders of the proto-Christians there, but it makes not the slightest difference ─ he continues to write nothing about the real Jesus.

When he was converted Jesus said to him. "Saul, why do you kick against the goad?"

But even Paul says clearly that this is a personal mental phenomenon, not a real one.

John, being a later writer of the gospel, puts in it things that had not been witnessed to in the synoptics but were still present in the early church. If you think Paul and John are similar then it is plain that what John wrote was in the earlier church while Paul was there and preaching.

Apologies ─ I sacrificed accuracy for brevity. What Paul and John have in common is that in each of their versions, Jesus pre-existed in heaven with God, Jesus created the material universe, and Jesus' birth and childhood are ignored (except for the claim that Jesus was descended from David). This gives both of them a flavor of gnosticism, with Jesus pre-existing carrying out the gnostic role of the demiurge ('craftsman') by creating the universe.
In the synoptics we have two different versions ─ Mark's, the ordinary Jew baptized and adopted, and Matthew's and Luke's, the products of divine insemination of a virgin (which is all good fun at Christmas, but very silly as history, as the silence of Paul, Mark and John may suggest. And of the synoptics, Mark's Jesus is expressly not descended from David, while Matthew's and Luke's (absurdly, since Joseph is not their father and the purported genealogies back to David are individually not credible and just as bad are hopeless incompatible).

Mark does not say that Jesus became God's Son at His baptism. Mark just starts his story there at the baptism.

Not so. At Mark 1:10-11 Jesus becomes the son of God. No one including him thinks he's the son of God until that point. His family have never had the benefit of angelic messengers before he was born, since they think he's nuts (Mark 3:21). And at Acts 13:33 we get a further confirmation that Psalm 2:7 is the model for this event (since there, unlike in Mark, the additional words 'This day have I begotten thee' are included).

 

[PruePhillip]

Sorry, but that is a poor analogy.. Unless you want to admit that some of those beliefs had clear errors in them.

Well, let's see - was Jesus the Elder Brother, the Preacher, the Annointed or the Teacher?
A person can't have four aspects to their life can they? Maybe MY earthly father was the only one of his kind, and everyone else is a one-dimensional cartoon like character?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, let's see - was Jesus the Elder Brother, the Preacher, the Annointed or the Teacher?
A person can't have four aspects to their life can they? Maybe MY earthly father was the only one of his kind, and everyone else is a one-dimensional cartoon like character?

Please, once again you are ignoring why the gospels fail.

 

[PruePhillip]

According to my q&d look at the net, no one knows just when Western Christians got all Sundayly ─ and a lot of Christians still observe Saturday. But (given an historical Jesus) it seems more than clear that it didn't have in the lifetime of Jesus, who was a circumcised Jew and a player in the Jewish religious scene. Nothing he says indicates any unorthodoxy about the date of the Sabbath.

And Jesus not only had nothing to 'say' about the Sabbath, he didn't have anything to say about drinking, gambling, being respectful in service, dressing moderately, doing drugs, kids out of wedlock etc etc etc..
Funny thing is - you can tell a lot about what he believed just by reading his parables, general doctine and standard of his life.
People loved him so much they 'followed his example', and that's where we get not only gathering on Sunday, but the nature of the service, by the service he had on his last night.

 

[wellwisher]

SUNDAY WORSHIP IS NOT THE LORD'S DAY

The term "the Lord's day" was used by some in the early Church as a reference to Sunday worship in celebration of the resurrection of Jesus. It comes from a scripture in the bible found in Revelation 1

• REVELATION 1:10 10, I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet

The Greek words used for the day that JOHN was in the Spirit of is the for Lord's day are

• REVELATION 1:10 εγενομην εν πνευματι εν τη κυριακη ημερα και ηκουσα οπισω μου φωνην μεγαλην ως σαλπιγγος

The word "κυριακη" (translit. "kuriake") is an Adjective - Dative - Singular - Feminine. This means it is being used as a 'possessive' as ownership or belonging to ("of", see 1 Corinthians 11:20, "the Lord's supper"), which means the "day" in context belongs to "the Lord". It is literally "the Lord's (belonging to) day". This means, that the "day" in context is uniquely "the Lord's" out of all the 7 days of the week, for the day under consideration is that which exists within the week, as a day which repeats weekly. This is extremely important, as those who incorrectly assume it to mean "the first [day] of the week" in lieu of Jesus' resurrection, cannot get a weekly occurrence out of a one-time event, in fulfillment of typology of the Firstfruit/Wavesheaf in Leviticus 23:9-14, as made known in 1 Corinthians 15:20,23

The problem here however is that there is not a single scripture that references Sunday or the first day of the week (bible names for the days of the week) to being "the Lords day" in scripture.

According to the scripture "the Lords day" however can be referenced to "the Sabbath day" of Gods' 4th commandment found in Exodus 20:8-11.

Letting the scriptures answer this question

• WHAT DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES?

• MATTHEW 12:8 FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY

This then promotes a bit of a dilemma for the Church as there is not a single scripture in all of the bible that days "the Lords day" from Revelation 1:10 is Sunday. Yet there is many scriptures referencing "the Lords day" or Gods' specific claims to ownership of any particular day to the Sabbath day that he blessed and set aside as a holy day of rest for a memorial of creation (see Genesis 2:1-3) and made one of Gods' 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11).

God's "ownership" of the Sabbath day or "Lord's day is also repeated elsewhere as "MY" (ownership of the day as in the Greek used in REVELATION 1:10 κυριακη). Other scriptures in the bible pointing to "the Lords day" as being the Sabbath day...

• MATTHEW 12:8 FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY. (the Sabbath day is Lord's day)

• ISAIAH 58:13-14 [13], If you turn away your foot from the SABBATH, from doing your pleasure on MY HOLY DAY (God's claim to ownership of the Sabbath day); and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honorable; and shall honor him, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words: [14], Then shall you delight yourself in the LORD; and I will cause you to ride on the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father: for the mouth of the LORD has spoken it.

• LEVITICUS 19:30 You shall keep MY SABBATHS, (God's claim to ownership of the Sabbath day)and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

• EZEKIEL 20:12 Moreover also I gave them MY SABBATHS, (God's claim to ownership of the Sabbath day) to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

κυριακῇ ἡμέρᾳ used in Revelations 1:10 is in reference to the Lord's ownership of the day. It does not say that this day is in reference to μιά των σαββάτων which means the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK.

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Your challenge here in this OP is to prove from the scriptures alone that the Lord's DAY is in reference to the First day of the week. If you cannot all you have is a teaching and tradition of men that is not supported in the scriptures. There is not a single scripture in all the bible that refers to Sunday as being "the Lords day".

May God bless you as you seek Him through His Word.

God created the heavens and earth in six days and rested on the seventh. Sunday would be the eight day, thereby beginning a new cycle. Sunday was the first day and the eighth day, which becomes the new first day of another divine cycle; Son; Sunday. It has it do with a change in dispensation from Old to New Testament.

The first Sunday was connected to the original creation; let there be light! The days of the week then pass with Creation being fine tuned, until the Sabbath or Saturday, when God rests. As God rested, others were put in charge. Satan, for example was placed in charge of humans after the fall, while God was resting.

One is not allowed to work on the Sabbath, so when Adan and Eve fell from paradise, God was resting and did no work, so the fate of Adam and Eve; humans, was left in the hands of the hired help; Satan. Jesus said nobody has seen the Father; God, but the son. This is because God was resting and what humans thought was God answering their prayers, actually his hired help. Satan; Lord of the Earth, who was good and evil like how what was called "God" behaved in the Old Testament.

The second Sunday, after the Sabbath is about a new beginning. This is also a time, when God is no longer resting from the first cycle of creation. Rather he starts to work again and gives the gift of the Holy Spirit through his Son, Jesus. This new spirit of truth is better than just knowledge of good and evil. Faith and the Holy Spirit replace Satan and knowledge of good and evil. Satan is thrown from heaven, along with knowledge of good and evil, which was the theme of the first Sabbath as God rested; law is superseded by Faith.

Just before Jesus began his ministry, he was visited by Satan who promised him all the power and glory of the kingdoms of the earth, if Jesus would bow and serve Satan, the Lord of the Earth. Jesus does not say this is a trick, since he knew Satan had that authority. Instead Jesus refuses the offer. Had Jesus accepted the offer, Jesus would have become the Messiah anticipated in the Old Testament; rich, powerful and able to subdue all enemies. But instead, this undermines Satan's prophetic plan. There is a political battle in Heaven, and Satan is thrown from heaven.

When Jesus was dying on the cross, he pleads to God the Father, ands asks why have you forsaken me. It has to do with God the Father still on his Sabbath rest. Rules were rules. Jesus has to accept the fate that was occurring, until the Father returned to work. Then the Holy Spirit appears; Sunday.

 

[metis]

However you are quote wrong in regards to the Sabbath only being for Jew. According to Jesus there was no Moses, no Jew, no Hebrew, no Israel when God made the Sabbath for all mankind.

God made Shabbat but didn't mandate it until the time of Moses, whereas Jewish Law [halacha] began to be established.

 

[metis]

I really am baffled by this statement. Let me try to grasp your reasoning: Because the majority of Christians after the age of Apostles were Gentiles that makes it OK to change the Law?

No, the "Law" is Jewish Law [halacha], thus only is mandated for Jews per Torah. Thus, it's not the Law that's changed but whom it applies to varies if one is Jewish versus not. The mandate to obey the Law was first given to Moshe, who then kept giving the Law both during and after Sinai, followed by those who YHWH told Moshe to appoint as a council.

IOW, here: The 613 Mitzvot (Commandments) (jewishvirtuallibrary.org)

I am really amazed at your reasoning. Sorry, what gives you, or anyone for that matter, a right to change the Law of Yahweh?

See above.

Not a corrupted Ch-rch.

OK, so I betcha your "Ch-urch" isn't, right? Gee, where have I seen this before?

 

[Muffled]

I don't celebrate Jewish law because I am not Jewish and don't have to. I celebrate a day of rest in Honor of Jesus which is more than can be said for some people.

 

[Muffled]

Well of course it's a tradition, like so much else in Christianity. Why is that a big deal to you?

I believe people can be chained to laws of death rather than serve the Lord of life.

 

[Muffled]

Depends if you believe the bible is the only rule of faith or not and one is a practicing Christian. The big deal is that if your a Christian and put traditions over scripture that leads us to break the commandments of God according to Jesus in Matthew 15:3-9 we are not following God but putting the teachings and traditions of men above God and His Word which is sin and unbelief that we are warned against in Hebrews 3:8-19 and Hebrews 4:1-11; Hebrews 10:26-31 and 1 John 2:3-4 compare also Matthew 15:3-9. So quite a lot is at stake for a professing Christian.

I believe some people would not know God from a hole in the wall which is why they follow a law of death instead of a law of life.

 

[blü 2]

And Jesus not only had nothing to 'say' about the Sabbath, he didn't have anything to say about drinking, gambling, being respectful in service, dressing moderately, doing drugs, kids out of wedlock etc etc etc..

Don't blame me,. His whole approach to morality was extremely vague and inefficient. Had he been worth his salt, he'd have said, Do no harm, and treat others with decency, respect and inclusion (and saved me the trouble). But as the thousands of Christian sects around the world demonstrate, Christians tend to find inclusion difficult, schism easy, and thus fragmentation natural.

 

[3rdAngel]

So true! The person who pulled a sheep out of a hole on a Sabbath does good. As does the medical profession, the fire department, the police department and so many others.

According to God's 4th commandment which is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing) and evil (moral wrong doing); sin (moral right doing) and righteousness (moral right doing) see Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172 we are not to do any work on the Sabbath. Jesus taught us however in Matthew 12:1-2 that doing good on the Sabbath however is the Spirit of the law (love) and how this law should be obeyed.

The point Jesus made was that a day of rest was necessary. Worshipping God and recognizing Him should be a daily affair.

According to the scriptures we should worship God everyday like the early disciples did in Acts 2:46-47. That is not the problem. According to the scriptures God blessed and set apart the "seventh day" of the week as a holy day of rest from secular work and business as a memorial of creation in Gods' 4th commandment of the 10 commandments (see Exodus 20:8-11 from Genesis 2:1-3.

I understand you position. How many Sabbath's did Abraham observe? Did Adam observe a Sabbath? I don't think so. There is a place where you are continually observing God's Sabbath -- in Christ Jesus.

According to Jesus God made the Sabbath for all mankind in Mark 2:27 the Greek word used here for "man" is ἄνθρωπος (ánthrōpos | G444) and means human beings. According to the scripture, Adam and Eve were created on the 6th day of the creation week *Genesis 1:26-31 while the Sabbath was created for all mankind on the seventh day of the creation seek *Genesis 2:1-3. So yes God created the Sabbath for Adam and Eve and for all the children of men. It is also written in the scriptures in Genesis 26:5 that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

The Hebrew word used for laws here is תֹּורָה or tôwrâh' Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries w/TVM, Strong - H8451; תֹּורָה (tôwrâh | to-raw') Derivation: or תֹּרָה; from יָרָה; Strong's: a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch. So Abraham already had a knowledge of Gods' laws as did all of Gods' people before Gods 10 commandments were given at Mt Sinai (eg the Sabbath in Exodus 16). You might want to consider that before the written word of God we given to Gods' people they had the spoken words of God to live by and were taught by the parents and handed down to the children.

The rest is a rest of faith - a continual rest in God.
John Gill expressed it beautifully when he said "this intends the spiritual rest believers have in Christ under the Gospel dispensation, which they now enter into, and of which the apostle had been treating; and as for the word "remaineth", this does not denote the futurity of it, but the apostle's inference or consequence from what he had said; and the sense is, it remains therefore, and is a certain fact, a clear consequence from what has been observed, that there is another rest distinct from God's rest on the seventh day, and from the rest in the land of Canaan; which were both typical ones of the present rest the saints now enjoy: so the Jews call the world to come the times of the Messiah, (lwdgh tbv) , "the great sabbath" F12.

If you think about it, on God's 8th day... did He go back to work? No. His rest remained. His point wasn't a 7th day rest but rather an greater rest, a rest in Him in all things and through all things.

This section is not supported by scripture. Hebrews 3:9-19 and Hebrews 4:1-11 is a warning talking about sin and unbelief. While Hebrews 4:1-5 define Gods' rest, His rest, My rest as the seventh day made from the foundation of the world which is a reference back to Genesis 2:1-3 of creation and God blessing and setting aside the seventh day Sabbath as a holy day of rest for mankind as a memorial of creation and God as the creator of heaven and earth. Hebrews 4:9 says in the Aramiac "Therefore it remains (left behind) for the people of God to keep the Sabbath. We enter into Gods' seventh day Sabbath rest by believing and following what Gods Word says (the gospel). There is no such thing in scripture as an eight day week.

I'm not quite sure.

Already shown through the scriptures in the OP. (see page one first post)

No. I wouldn't agree with that. For every commandment that is made, and the commandments are holy and good, the end result is that it only creates more offenders. But, thanks be to God, Jesus bore our sins and carried our sicknesses. Though I be red as crimson, he makes me white as wool.

As posted earlier, this topic is a heaven and hell issue. Sin is the transgression of the law (see 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 and according to James if we break any one of them we stand guilty before God of sin (see James 2:10-11). Gods' 4th commandment of the 10 commandments give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken. There is not a single scripture in all of Gods' Word that says Gods' 4th commandment of the 10 commandments have been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. This is a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God against the very warnings of Jesus in Matthew 15:3-9. According to Hebrews 10:26-31 if we continue in known unrepentant sin after we have been given a knowledge of the truth of Gods' Word we will not enter into Gods' kingdom. These are all Gods words not my words. Your disagreeing therefore with God not me. Jesus does not save us from our sins so that we are now free to continue practicing sin. According to the the scriptures we are not to continue practicing sin which is defined in the scriptures as not believing and obeying Gods law *see Romans 6:1-23; 1 John 2:3-4 and 1 John 3:4-10.

to be continued...

 

[3rdAngel]

I believe the rest we find in faith is a rest that puts us back into a Garden of Eden where every day is a day of rest.

Agreed but faith is believing and following what Gods' Word says. The warning given in Hebrews 3:8-19 and Hebrews 4:1-11 was that no one enters into Gods rest while knowingly practicing sin which is defined in the scriptures as not believing and following Gods' Word and breaking any one of Gods 10 commandments (see Romans 14:23; 1 John 3:4; James 2:10-11). Gods 4th commandment according to Gods' new covenant scriptures is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is according to the scriptures in Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 and 1 John 3:4.

But I am no longer under the law - the law of sin and death. I am under the law of the Spirit of Life where grace is my husband. Not that you can't observe the 7th day, if you do it as unto the Lord. If you do it in faith, it is good. If it is your law then to not do it will be sin because you would not be in faith (Rom 17) For me, I am already in the Garden where every day is a day of rest.

According to the scriptures, no one is "under the law" if they have received Gods' forgiveness for their sins through faith in Gods' Word *see Romans 8:1-4; 1 John 1:9; John 3:36. According to the scriptures we are only "under the law" when we stand before God guilty of breaking God's law *see Romans 3:19-20. Faith therefore according to Romans 3:31 does not abolish the law in the lives of those who love God but establishes God's law in the lives of all those who are born of the Spirit in love to follow Jesus (see John 3:3-7 compare 1 John 3:4-9; 1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 5:2-3; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14)

But I would say every day is a holy day. Every day, for me, is God's day.

According to the scriptures God only blessed and made holy the seventh day of the week *see Genesis 2:1-3 and it is clearly defined in the scriptures what day the Sabbath day is here in Exodus 20:10 "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God"

Acts 20:6-13 6, And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days. 7, And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Now lets be honest dear friend. Where in Acts 20:6 does it say that Gods' 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest? It doesn't. According to the scriptures in Acts 2:46-47 Gods' people met together every day breaking bread while still keeping Gods' 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4). Act 20:6 is Paul meeting with the disciples to have a meal together because he was departing from them the very next day. You even underlined this above. It has nothing to do with Sunday worship as we know it today.

Don't get me wrong... I support your faith in keeping the Sabbath holy and unto the Lord. My Sabbath is just 7 days a week.

Dear friend there is no such think as a seven day Sabbath according to the scriptures. Genesis 2:1-3 and Gods 4th commandment of the 10 commandments written in Exodus 20:8-11 state that the Sabbath is the seventh day of the week not seven days a week....

• GENESIS 2:1-3 [1], Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
  [2], And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and HE RESTED [שׁבת; shâbath H7673; KEEP SABBATH] on the SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made. [3], And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY: BECAUSE THAT IN IT HE HAD RESTED [שׁבת; shâbath H7673; Keep Sabbath] from all his work which God created and made.

• EXODUS 20:8-11 [8], Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day) [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But THE SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH OF THE LORD THY GOD: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and MADE IT HOLY

Lets be careful dear friend not to read into the scriptures what is clearly not written in them. God is calling us all to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions to return to his Word and to worship Him in Spirit and in truth (see John 4:23-24; John 17:17).

Hope this was helpful.

 

[3rdAngel]

No, you break the Commandments by turning it into a false idol. Some day you might understand it.

We will let God judge between us dear friend. I do not judge you. God will be our judge come judgement day dear friend (see John 12:47-48). There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed dear friend. There is no need to be upset.