"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

[3rdAngel]

3rdAngel said: ↑ Well that is not true and as evidence, against your claim here, you were provided specific examples in post # 1472 linked that is in disagreement with you. I listed a few examples from your posts that you were making of personal accusation you were making. You made all these false claims listed in the linked post so the burden of proof is on you to prove those claims. I challenged you and asked you many times now to prove these claims and lets discuss them. Your refusal to do so only provides me with further evidence that your claims are not truthful because you fail to prove a single one of them or even discuss them and show that everything you are accusing others of here is what you are doing then running away and refusing to discuss what you posted. Again dear friend this is only more evidence against you that prove you wrong and shows that you lose again. Do you want to discuss the now OP? If not than lets talk more when you have something to actually contribute to the discussion of the OP.

Your resposnse here...

How does that "disagree with me"? Meanwhile to show that you are still running away:

Try reading the post you are responding to. Everything is outlined above. You have made false claims and accusations you cannot prove and run away from.

All that you just did was to link to an argument that you lost. You in effect just admitted that you were wrong.

Nonsense. You lost by not being able to prove anything you said. You made the claims and accusations. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove your claims. You were unable to do so when challenged and asked. You lose by running away from your challenge.

Why are you afraid to discuss the exegesis that your thread is based upon?

As proven with evidence against you earlier, you have not addressed anything in any of my exegesis of the scriptures that the thread is based on so there is nothing to run away from. I am wanting to discuss the OP. Lets do it. You keep on avoiding it. So my guess is that it is you who is afraid to discuss the OP. Bring it on if you are not scared. I have been waiting for you to do this for a long time already and you have failed to do this since we first started talking here.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your resposnse here...

Try reading the post you are responding to. Everything is outlined above. You have made false claims and accusations you cannot prove and run away from.

Nonsense. You lost by not being able to prove anything you said. You made the claims and accusations. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove your claims. You were unable to do so when challenged and asked. You lose by running away from your challenge.

As proven with evidence against you earlier, you have not addressed anything in any of my exegesis of the scriptures that the thread is based on so there is nothing to run away from. I am wanting to discuss the OP. Lets do it. You keep on avoiding it. So my guess is that it is you who is afraid to discuss the OP. Bring it on if you are not scared. I have been waiting for you to do this for a long time already and you have failed to do this since we first started talking here.

Nope, it is your claim It is your burden of proof.
So far you have only shown that you lost earlier debates. And running away is a tacit admission that you lost.

From the start I could see that your exegesis was failed. I tried to engage you in several ways towards that topic. I have always claimed that I will not play the verses games because from the start you had a self defeating approach to this topic.

Are you ready to discuss it?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your post content here is not truthful. As posted earlier, I am not interested in playing silly games of responding to your false claims and accusations you are unable to prove. Lets talk more when you can prove what you say and you have something useful to add to the discussion of the OP.

How are you gong to prove that my posts are "not truthful". And of course it is you that is playing silly games. That was my claim in one of my very early posts. It is so nice when you copy me. You are once again admitting that I was right in my claim.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your resposnse here...

Try reading the post you are responding to. Everything is outlined above. You have made false claims and accusations you cannot prove and run away from.

Nonsense. You lost by not being able to prove anything you said. You made the claims and accusations. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove your claims. You were unable to do so when challenged and asked. You lose by running away from your challenge.

As proven with evidence against you earlier, you have not addressed anything in any of my exegesis of the scriptures that the thread is based on so there is nothing to run away from. I am wanting to discuss the OP. Lets do it. You keep on avoiding it. So my guess is that it is you who is afraid to discuss the OP. Bring it on if you are not scared. I have been waiting for you to do this for a long time already and you have failed to do this since we first started talking here.

This is just a copy and paste of your earlier failed argument.

But let's address a point. When it comes to claims of you running away the only way to prove it is to get you to run away again. That is why I kept repeating questions and you kept running away from them. You are still running away because you refuse to discuss a key part of this thread.

But I tell you what. Let's make a deal. I asked you a question a long time ago and you ran away from it. All you have to do is to admit that you are just playing silly fanfiction games and I will leave.

Otherwise you really need to explain why what you are dong is not fanfiction.

 

[3rdAngel]

Nope, it is your claim It is your burden of proof.
So far you have only shown that you lost earlier debates. And running away is a tacit admission that you lost.

From the start I could see that your exegesis was failed. I tried to engage you in several ways towards that topic. I have always claimed that I will not play the verses games because from the start you had a self defeating approach to this topic.

Are you ready to discuss it?

You sound like you need some rest. Your post makes no sense now. If you make the claims and accusations that burden of proof is on you to prove them. Not on someone else. I have been ready to discuss the OP here since it was opened. Are you ready to discuss it now?

 

[3rdAngel]

How are you gong to prove that my posts are "not truthful". And of course it is you that is playing silly games. That was my claim in one of my very early posts. It is so nice when you copy me. You are once again admitting that I was right in my claim.

I did not need to. You already proved your false personal claims and accusations were not truthful by not being able to prove what you say. That is why I am sitting back with the pretend popcorn watching you prove everything I have been posting to you with a smile

 

[3rdAngel]

This is just a copy and paste of your earlier failed argument.

But let's address a point. When it comes to claims of you running away the only way to prove it is to get you to run away again. That is why I kept repeating questions and you kept running away from them. You are still running away because you refuse to discuss a key part of this thread.

But I tell you what. Let's make a deal. I asked you a question a long time ago and you ran away from it. All you have to do is to admit that you are just playing silly fanfiction games and I will leave.

Otherwise you really need to explain why what you are dong is not fanfiction.

Yea you addressed nothing in the post you were quoting from and it was applicable to what you were posting. So it was easy to use as it addressed what you were posting.

 

[samtonga43]

They were false claims that you tried to use as evidence. So yes, the Gish Gallop rule applies.

No, it does not. Have another look at the rule and you should be able to see why it does not apply.
Also, you cannot point out the 'false claims'. And the reason you cannot point out the 'false claims' is because there are none. Questions are not claims. This is obvious to most people, SZ. You are doing yourself no favors.

Sorry, one topic per post.

LOL! There was only one topic in my post. That topic was unanswered questions.

You need to support your claims a bit if you want an answer. I am not doing all of your homework for you.

Ah! The old SZ excuse, trotted out when he loses his train of thought. You are so transparent,SZ.
But I have supported my claims. Those unanswered questions support my claim that you refuse to do what you ask of others - to answer questions rather than running away.

Relax. One question per post. I am not your servant.

(my emphasis)
Now this, dear friends, is SZism for, "I'm not here to answer questions; I am here to ask questions and then complain if they are unanswered.[/QUOTE]

 

[Subduction Zone]

You sound like you need some rest. Your post makes no sense now. If you make the claims and accusations that burden of proof is on you to prove them. Not on someone else. I have been ready to discuss the OP here since it was opened. Are you ready to discuss it now?

What a sad excuse.

Just tell me what part that you did not understand.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I did not need to. You already proved your false personal claims and accusations were not truthful by not being able to prove what you say. That is why I am sitting back with the pretend popcorn watching you prove everything I have been posting to you with a smile

No, you never did that. The problem is that you do not know how to do so properly. All that you ever did was to repeatedly admit that you were wrong by just quoting old failed arguments of yours.

I am giving you a chance to start fresh but all that you can do is to whine about your past losses.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you fix your quotes please?

And no, you were all over the place. Try to focus your arguments better.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yea you addressed nothing in the post you were quoting from and it was applicable to what you were posting. So it was easy to use as it addressed what you were posting.

How would you know? You keep running away from the topic.

Once again your whole argument is based upon a failed premise and you refuse to discuss it.

 

[3rdAngel]

No, it does not. Have another look at the rule and you should be able to see why it does not apply.
Also, you cannot point out the 'false claims'. And the reason you cannot point out the 'false claims' is because there are none. Questions are not claims. This is obvious to most people, SZ. You are doing yourself no favors.

LOL! There was only one topic in my post. That topic was unanswered questions.

Ah! The old SZ excuse, trotted out when he loses his train of thought. You are so transparent,SZ.
But I have supported my claims. Those unanswered questions support my claim that you refuse to do what you ask of others - to answer questions rather than running away.

(my emphasis)
Now this, dear friends, is SZism for, "I'm not here to answer questions; I am here to ask questions and then complain if they are unanswered.

This just makes me smile

 

[samtonga43]

I did not need to. You already proved your false personal claims and accusations were not truthful by not being able to prove what you say. That is why I am sitting back with the pretend popcorn watching you prove everything I have been posting to you with a smile

I am sitting back with real popcorn.

 

[3rdAngel]

No, it does not. Have another look at the rule and you should be able to see why it does not apply.
Also, you cannot point out the 'false claims'. And the reason you cannot point out the 'false claims' is because there are none. Questions are not claims. This is obvious to most people, SZ. You are doing yourself no favors.

LOL! There was only one topic in my post. That topic was unanswered questions.

Ah! The old SZ excuse, trotted out when he loses his train of thought. You are so transparent,SZ.
But I have supported my claims. Those unanswered questions support my claim that you refuse to do what you ask of others - to answer questions rather than running away.

(my emphasis)
Now this, dear friends, is SZism for, "I'm not here to answer questions; I am here to ask questions and then complain if they are unanswered.

I am sitting back with real popcorn.

Thanks it is a little funny I must admit

 

[Subduction Zone]

I do not think he wants to respond to you sis. He knows he is wrong and exposed and its all becoming too hard for him now.

No, my discussion is with you.

She needs to do more than just attack people if she wants to demand answers.

She is still angry about losing a debate with me earlier. She wants revenge. I doubt if she agrees with your OP at all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thanks it is a little funny I must admit

That she cannot follow simple instructions? I guess.

 

[Soapy]

Please forgive me dear friend but your not addressing the post you are responding to again. I am not interested in playing your nonsense games. Try addressing the post content that you are responding to that is in disagreement with you. If you cannot what do you have but only your words and opinions that you are unable to prove.

As proven in the post you are quoting from but not responding to if you do not respond to the content of the post people have posted to you than you do not know how to debate and have a discussion. If you knew how to debate you would be seeking to address post content that is in disagreement with you instead of making personal accusations about others you are unable to prove when challenged as a distraction because you are unable to address their post content that is in disagreement with you.

Well there you go with your name calling again while not addressing anything in the post you are quoting from that is in disagreement with you. That is not debating Soapy.

Close it is about "the Lords day" which is the seventh day Sabbath of Gods' 10 commandments. Lets discuss it if you know what the discussion is about. I sent you a lot of posts earlier addressing what you posted about the Sabbath. Your response was to ignore them. That is not debating or is it a discussion.

According to the scriptures acceptable worship to God has always been from the heart in Spirit and in truth (see John 4:23-24)

Where in all the bible does it say you can make any day the Sabbath of the Lord your God? - Nowhere in the entire bible. According to God though in Gods' 4th commandment it says...

• EXODUS 20:10 BUT THE SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH OF THE LORD YOUR GOD.

This is taken from Genesis 2:1-3 which also agrees where it is written..

• GENESIS 2:1-3 [1], Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. [2], And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and HE RESTED [שׁבת; shâbath H7673; KEEP SABBATH] on the SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made. [3], And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY: BECAUSE THAT IN IT HE HAD RESTED [שׁבת; shâbath H7673; Keep Sabbath] from all his work which God created and made.

As posted early to you dear friend you are making up stuff here. There is no such thing as a "Jewish Sabbath". According to the scriptures Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for all mankind or human beings in Mark 2:27 and when God made the Sabbath in Genesis 2:1-3 on the seventh day of the creation week there was no Moses, no Jew, no Hebrews, and no Israel. There was only Adam and Eve who were both created on the 6th day of the creation week (see Genesis 1:26-31). The rest of your post is here is also not truthful God has always had a people all through time and from Jesus and the Apostles to the early Church to this very present day who have all kept Gods 4th commandment (Exodus 20:8-11) as a holy day of rest according to Gods' 4th commandment that is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken in the new testament (see Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4 and James 2:10-11)

If you read my responses to you earlier you would now that Jesus says it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath see Matthew 12:8. There is no problem there for me. Also as posted earlier according to the scriptures God made the Sabbath for all mankind. There is no such thing as the Jewish Sabbath. There was no Jew when God made the Sabbath for all mankind according to the scriptures.

Take care.

Your overly long response shows you are doing what you always do: flood your posts to obscure the fact that you are wrong in regard to what I said to you.

And once again you did not respond to the question I asked you showing you are so fear-filled that you can’t even dredge up a nonsense reply to that!

What should someone do, whose employment requires them to work on the Jewish Sabbath (Friday sun down to Saturday sun down), regarding the Sabbath Law as given to the Jews in the form you state?

 

[samtonga43]

Your overly long response shows you are doing what you always do: flood your posts to obscure the fact that you are wrong in regard to what I said to you.
And once again you did not respond to the question I asked you showing you are so fear-filled that you can’t even dredge up a nonsense reply to that!

Hmm... is Soapy SZ's acolyte?
Or is SZ Soapy's acolyte?

Hard to tell sometimes.
.

 

[samtonga43]

But I tell you what. Let's make a deal. I asked you a question a long time ago and you ran away from it. All you have to do is to admit that you are just playing silly fanfiction games and I will leave.
Otherwise you really need to explain why what you are dong is not fanfiction.

Sorry, but no; you are being irrational again. You really need to explain why you believe that what he is dong (sic) is fanfiction.