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The Man as spiritual head of the family

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
And also..Im sick of this "providing' thing to be considered what makes a man a "leader"..You have to go to work whether you marry or not .

And lets just say you set it up traditional..You both want children..and you agree that you want one parent at home to be the primary care giver for the children..and have that one also be the primary person in charge of all the domestic responsibilites..While the other goes out of the home to earn the money needed ...

How is the non income earning person in the role of child rearing and domestic duties any LESS of a 'provider" to the family?

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
Lets just put it this way..If the woman is more ambitious in the income earning dept..And the man is more content in the nurturing role and agrees to stay home and care for children and the home...

Does that then make her the head of him and his leader?Should he then be in the postion to be in a submissive role to her because she pays for everything?

If not??? Then why in the hell even bring up the man "providing" the income as part of what makes him fit for leadership over her?

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
And also???LOL!! The "opening the dooor for her" as another duty in the leadership dept?? Give me a break..All that is to me is an outward gesture of respect....

The other night we were walking into a resturant..and the man in front of us held the door open for my husband(who was in front of me because he was carrying our grandbaby in the car seat which is too heavy for me)..anyway thats just propper manners..

Love

Dallas
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
This is true..The Bible does not say there is an option..If you are married..the man is the spirtual head period..It doesnt say if he is qualified or she can take that role if he doesn't want it or if she is better suited for it..

Love

Dallas

Um...im not sure where the scripture is that says the man is the spiritual head?

The HS teaches all of us...it does not take into account if hes talking to a women or a man.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
A pastor once said, "In my house I'm the boss. I ask my wife what she wants to do then tell her to go do it."

HE HE...

I believe jesus was warning us about sexist remarks like...behind every successfull man their is a supportive women.

He did say.......get BEHIND me satan.

The only thing that should be behind a man is satan. Not a women. ;)


The only competition there should be in a marriage is who is going to serve next.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
The only competition there should be in a marriage is who is going to serve next.

But we can actually be serving each other simotaneoulsy..At times anyway.

What you are serving is each other..But also your family unit..Whether it be just the two of you or the two of you and children..

Its as simple as taking care of each others needs..And its as complicated as that.

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
You know what the stupid thing is?? As far as leadership/submission and desicion making? The majority of the time..you talk about things..and you end up agreeing with each other.Or you have changed your original position and now agree with what previoulsy you thought you didnt..(if that makes sense)..

Its happened to me in regards to my husband..and its happened to him..

Love

Dallas
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
I'm still waiting for those who feel that the man must be the head of the family to explain why this is the case. Is it simply because it is in the bible? Or what? And now this question has nothing to do with submission or equality or anything I just want to know what people's reasoning is behind saying it has to be the man who is the spiritual head. Even if you feel that it's okay for the woman to take over if the man is doing a poor job, why must the man be the first choice?
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I'm still waiting for those who feel that the man must be the head of the family to explain why this is the case. Is it simply because it is in the bible? Or what? And now this question has nothing to do with submission or equality or anything I just want to know what people's reasoning is behind saying it has to be the man who is the spiritual head. Even if you feel that it's okay for the woman to take over if the man is doing a poor job, why must the man be the first choice?


Becuase a penis...with two balls hanging...Apparently is more qualified than a vagina..(with no balls)

Love

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I think its the balls...

Plus women are "hysterical"...That comes from having a uterus..Which men dont have..Thereofore they never lose control and become wrought with "hysteria"

DUH!

Love

Dallas
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
And also..Im sick of this "providing' thing to be considered what makes a man a "leader"..You have to go to work whether you marry or not .

And lets just say you set it up traditional..You both want children..and you agree that you want one parent at home to be the primary care giver for the children..and have that one also be the primary person in charge of all the domestic responsibilites..While the other goes out of the home to earn the money needed ...

How is the non income earning person in the role of child rearing and domestic duties any LESS of a 'provider" to the family?

Love

Dallas

They aren't any less a provider for the family
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
Lets just put it this way..If the woman is more ambitious in the income earning dept..And the man is more content in the nurturing role and agrees to stay home and care for children and the home...

Does that then make her the head of him and his leader?Should he then be in the postion to be in a submissive role to her because she pays for everything?

If not??? Then why in the hell even bring up the man "providing" the income as part of what makes him fit for leadership over her?

Love

Dallas

No, there is a difference between responsibility and dominance, just because someone is responsible for something does not mean they have dominion over it
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
And also???LOL!! The "opening the dooor for her" as another duty in the leadership dept?? Give me a break..All that is to me is an outward gesture of respect....

The other night we were walking into a resturant..and the man in front of us held the door open for my husband(who was in front of me because he was carrying our grandbaby in the car seat which is too heavy for me)..anyway thats just propper manners..

Love

Dallas
Agreed
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
I'm still waiting for those who feel that the man must be the head of the family to explain why this is the case. Is it simply because it is in the bible? Or what? And now this question has nothing to do with submission or equality or anything I just want to know what people's reasoning is behind saying it has to be the man who is the spiritual head. Even if you feel that it's okay for the woman to take over if the man is doing a poor job, why must the man be the first choice?

Anyone who states that the man must be the head of the family based soley on the bible is schouvanistic.

The bible basically says that a husband gets to treat a woman like crap and that she has to be sunmissive in all cases if you take it literally. which i feel is 100% wrong.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
Anyone who states that the man must be the head of the family based soley on the bible is schouvanistic.

The bible basically says that a husband gets to treat a woman like crap and that she has to be sunmissive in all cases if you take it literally. which i feel is 100% wrong.

I agree, what I'm asking is if those who believe that a man should be the head, or at least first choice for head of the family, have any justification for this outside "the bible says so".
 
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