The mere fact that no god is observed communicating directly to everyone means that...

[CG Didymus]

All they ever did was receive messages from God through the Holy Spirit after which time they communicate those messages to humanity...

So, Baha'is say that manifestations had a spirit before they ever became human. Was that spirit able to communicate to God? Then, for sure, when human you believe even they didn't have direct communication with God, but it was through the Holy Spirit?

The problems, and I ask this all the time, Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses did not fit the definition of a manifestation. They had faults. They were not "perfect" reflections of God. Then their are the "minor" prophets, and weird that most all of them are in Judaism? Are there other you believe were these lower level prophets? And, who communicated God message to them? Still the Holy Spirit? Then the Apostles of Jesus and the other followers of Jesus that were at Pentecost. Did the Holy Spirit communicate with them? But, there are other in all the religions that got some kind of message from the spirit world. Like a Lakota during a Sun Dance or after fasting on a mountain top and received a vision? Who gave him that vision? I think they believe it came from what they called "The Great Spirit"? Were they wrong?

 

[Trailblazer]

What are the foundational beliefs of the major religions that led to the next religion?

It was not beliefs that formed the foundation, it was the spiritual verities. Those spiritual verities are the same in all the great religions.

As Abdu’l-Baha said, spiritual truth is eternal and it will never be abrogated; it is faith, knowledge, certitude, justice, piety, righteousness, trustworthiness, love of God, benevolence, purity, detachment, humility, meekness, patience and constancy.

“These divine qualities, these eternal commandments, will never be abolished; nay, they will last and remain established for ever and ever. These virtues of humanity will be renewed in each of the different cycles; for at the end of every cycle the spiritual Law of God—that is to say, the human virtues—disappears, and only the form subsists.” Some Answered Questions, p. 47

Every religion has a purpose, and it fulfills its purpose. Once that purpose has been fulfilled, God reveals a new religion that has another purpose. Since humanity and the world we live in are constantly evolving what was needed in former ages is not what we need in this age.

So what each successive religion does is renew the spiritual verities and bring new social teachings and laws that are pertinent to this age.

“And now concerning thy question regarding the nature of religion. Know thou that they who are truly wise have likened the world unto the human temple. As the body of man needeth a garment to clothe it, so the body of mankind must needs be adorned with the mantle of justice and wisdom. Its robe is the Revelation vouchsafed unto it by God. Whenever this robe hath fulfilled its purpose, the Almighty will assuredly renew it. For every age requireth a fresh measure of the light of God. Every Divine Revelation hath been sent down in a manner that befitted the circumstances of the age in which it hath appeared.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 81

 

[Trailblazer]

Could you comment on this question about horribly evil people and what happens to them in the Baha'i interpretation of the after-life?

What I have read that Abdu'l-Baha said is that in the spiritual world evil people will be far removed from everyone else, so they will have no effect upon good people. The spiritual world will not be like this world, where good and evil people are intermingled. That is one reason why there will be no more suffering in the spiritual world, except for evil people.

 

[steveb1]

Please select what you consider the most likely reason:

a) God has chosen not to communicate directly to everyone.
b) God wants to communicate directly to everyone but God does not always do what He wants to do.

God is like the sun which shines on all things, except for those under the soil or in some other way hidden from sunlight.

However, sentient beings are equipped - like certain plants - with "sensors" that, once exposed to the divine "sunlight", cause the flower to open to the light, to blossom spiritually.

It's not a matter of a creator deity trying to get through to his creatures. It's a matter of the readiness of beings to receive the light in which they are already bathed, but are not aware of.

 

[Trailblazer]

So, Baha'is say that manifestations had a spirit before they ever became human. Was that spirit able to communicate to God? Then, for sure, when human you believe even they didn't have direct communication with God, but it was through the Holy Spirit?
No, Baha'is say that the Manifestations of God had a soul in the spiritual world before they were born into this world.

They had souls, which they share in common with every human. The difference is that their souls had always existed in the spiritual world and our souls did not come into existence until we were conceived by our parents.

There is no way to know, but I assume that the souls of the Manifestations of God communicated with God in the spiritual world before they were born into this world and that is why they had special powers and innate knowledge. However, they did not receive a revelation from God until the Holy Spirit descended upon them at a certain time in their lives. It came to them by different means (a Burning Bush, a Dove, the Angel Gabriel, the Maid of Heaven) but it was the same Holy Spirit..

The problems, and I ask this all the time, Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses did not fit the definition of a manifestation. They didn't had faults. They were not "perfect" reflections of God. Then their are the "minor" prophets, and weird that most all of them are in Judaism? Are there other you believe were these lower level prophets? And, who communicated God message to them? Still the Holy Spirit? Then the Apostles of Jesus and the other followers of Jesus that were at Pentecost. Did the Holy Spirit communicate with them? But, there are other in all the religions that got some kind of message from the spirit world. Like a Lakota during a Sun Dance or after fasting on a mountain top and received a vision? Who gave him that vision? I think they believe it came from what they called "The Great Spirit"? Were they wrong?

The best I can do to answer those questions is to post what Abdu'l-Baha said about The Three Kinds of Prophets.

Question: How many kinds of divine Prophets are there?

Answer: There are three kinds of divine Prophets. One kind are the universal Manifestations, which are even as the sun. Through Their advent the world of existence is renewed, a new cycle is inaugurated, a new religion is revealed, souls are quickened to a new life, and East and West are flooded with light. These Souls are the universal Manifestations of God and have been sent forth to the entire world and the generality of mankind.

Another kind of Prophets are followers and promulgators, not leaders and law-givers, but they are nonetheless the recipients of the hidden inspirations of God. Yet another kind are Prophets Whose prophethood has been limited to a particular locality. But the universal Manifestations are all-encompassing: They are like the root, and all others are as the branches; they are like the sun, and all others are as the moon and the stars.

https://www.bahai.org/library/autho...-tablets-extracts-talks/491087709/1#155069811
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So, it is entirely possible that some people received a vision they believe came from what they called "The Great Spirit". Maybe those could even be considered minor prophets who were limited to a particular locality.

I surmise, but I cannot know, that only the Universal Manifestations of God such as Jesus and Baha'u'llah were "perfect" reflections of God. Somewhere in the Baha'i Writings that there might be a better explanation than we get from Abdu'l-Baha, I don't know.

 

[Trailblazer]

God is like the sun which shines on all things, except for those under the soil or in some other way hidden from sunlight.

However, sentient beings are equipped - like certain plants - with "sensors" that, once exposed to the divine "sunlight", cause the flower to open to the light, to blossom spiritually.

It's not a matter of a creator deity trying to get through to his creatures. It's a matter of the readiness of beings to receive the light in which they are already bathed, but are not aware of.

That is true. We are living in the Light, but if we shut that Light out, it cannot get through

5: O SON OF BEING! Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee. Know this, O servant. The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4

One who is unaware of God is like a plant growing in the shade. Although it knows not the sun, it is, nevertheless, absolutely dependent on it.

 

[steveb1]

That is true. We are living in the Light, but if we shut that Light out, it cannot get through

5: O SON OF BEING! Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee. Know this, O servant. The Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 4

One who is unaware of God is like a plant growing in the shade. Although it knows not the sun, it is, nevertheless, absolutely dependent on it.

Lovely Baha'u'llah citation - thanks for sharing.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Sorry I turned you into my psychologist but you seem to be very level-headed and logical.

Logical, yes. Level-headed? Not always lol

 

[Trailblazer]

I understand that to an extent. What about the other way around? If someone wants a personal relationship with you (if that's bahai belief?) than I'd assume like he talked with Bahaullah, he would talk to other people too.

If a person wanted a personal relationship with another person he would talk to that person.

No. I honestly don't have a conception of god.
Why do you assuming I'm anthropomorphizing god?
Do you believe communication is only through word of mouth?

No, I do not believe that communication is only in words. But words are what humans can understand, and that is why God communicates to Messengers of God and they convey that communication in words we can understand.

I'd say he would be equal in that, unlike other human beings, he had a one-to-one connection without a prophet in between. When you have a one-to-one connection, you're basically with god. Any believer-bahai, christian, etc-who does not believe in one to one connection without a prophet, seems to miss the point of monotheism.

I do not know if Baha’u’llah had a one-to-one connection with God with nothing in between, but a connection to God is not the same as communication from God. The way we can be connected to God is through His Messengers, Imo, not directly.

I'd compared it being like Bahaullah. He wasn't that far back; so, I'd assume his connection should be similar to yours and vis versa. He would be an example of how god communicates with you.

No, I do not believe that God communicated to Baha’u’llah the way God would communicate to me because the connection to God that Baha’u’llah had is not the same as any connection I might have.

I know christ showed how his father has a personal relationship with believers.

I do not believe that Jesus taught that but rather Christianity teaches that.

Since believers didn't want to listen to christ (or look up), they worship him instead. It's totally against monotheistic view. It's more idolism. Bahai sounds somewhat the same but I don't "think" you worship bahaullah??

I believe it is idolism to worship Jesus instead of God. That is what most Christians do, but most of them believe Jesus is God, so they believe they are worshiping God by worshiping Jesus.

Oh. That's confusing. Who is Bahullah if he isn't an associate, counselor, or any person who knows god more than humanity does?

Baha’u’llah was not God.

Where is his place to where you believe in him without him having no association to god?

That, and christians believe that jesus is the way to god. They worship jesus. Do you worship jesus?

I do not worship Jesus. Jesus did not want to be worshiped. Jesus said that God was greater than He was:

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."

I don't know. They, like Jews, say they talk to god directly. Muslims, I believe, put precedence to christ and other prophets as well as Muhammad. But, as I'm told, they pray to god with Muhammad as guidance.

Anyone can talk to God directly.

Why can only human beings be your friend?

God is not a human so God cannot be my friend except in my imagination, like a child who has an imaginary friend.

He doesn't need to but in christianity he chooses to. I know Bahai believe the unity of other abrahamic beliefs. Why not this one?

I believe that is a false belief of Christianity because God never comes down to our level. God is beyond everything that can ever be recounted or perceived, and God remains in His Own High Place. Jesus showed us what God was like and through Jesus we can know God. We do not need to know God directly and we never can.

Limiting god is saying "he is there and I am here" without seeing any connection between you and god. So, that's like saying you have a father (if that's so?) but as a child he can't communicate with you even though he's your father. His divinity should make it more possible to communicate than a human being would.

God is not our father and we are not His children. God does not have children because God is not a human being. That is what I mean when I said you are anthropomorphizing God. The fact that an omnipotent God is capable of communicating does not change the fact that humans are not capable of understanding communication from God directly.

Trailblazer said: Where did you get the idea that God wants a personal relationship with me directly, Christianity? I do not share those beliefs.

I'd assume that's what a relationship with god is. Do you have a relationship with god? (I'm thinking you are more a diest?)

I have a relationship with God through Baha’u’llah, because I consider Baha’u’llah a Manifestation of God, a mirror image of God’s attributes. I would only be a deist if I believed that God does not communicate at all, that God does not have any interest in humans.

Why do you communicate with him if you feel he doesn't communicate back? What's the point in prayer when you don't expect him to interact with you?
I don't understand the motive 'and' function of your prayers.

God can hear my prayers and that is the reason for praying. I do not need or expect God to answer back because God is not a human who answers a text message.

 

[Trailblazer]

Logical, yes. Level-headed? Not always lol

Well, one out of two ain't bad.

 

[CG Didymus]

It was not beliefs that formed the foundation, it was the spiritual verities. Those spiritual verities are the same in all the great religions.

As Abdu’l-Baha said, spiritual truth is eternal and it will never be abrogated; it is faith, knowledge, certitude, justice, piety, righteousness, trustworthiness, love of God, benevolence, purity, detachment, humility, meekness, patience and constancy.

“These divine qualities, these eternal commandments, will never be abolished; nay, they will last and remain established for ever and ever. These virtues of humanity will be renewed in each of the different cycles; for at the end of every cycle the spiritual Law of God—that is to say, the human virtues—disappears, and only the form subsists.” Some Answered Questions, p. 47

Every religion has a purpose, and it fulfills its purpose. Once that purpose has been fulfilled, God reveals a new religion that has another purpose. Since humanity and the world we live in are constantly evolving what was needed in former ages is not what we need in this age.

So what each successive religion does is renew the spiritual verities and bring new social teachings and laws that are pertinent to this age.

“And now concerning thy question regarding the nature of religion. Know thou that they who are truly wise have likened the world unto the human temple. As the body of man needeth a garment to clothe it, so the body of mankind must needs be adorned with the mantle of justice and wisdom. Its robe is the Revelation vouchsafed unto it by God. Whenever this robe hath fulfilled its purpose, the Almighty will assuredly renew it. For every age requireth a fresh measure of the light of God. Every Divine Revelation hath been sent down in a manner that befitted the circumstances of the age in which it hath appeared.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 81

The first two... faith in what? And knowledge of what? All religions are evolving. If we ask Jews if the purpose of their religion has been fulfilled, I don't think they will say "yes". And I don't think that they will say it had been fulfilled when Jesus arrived on the scene. And what do Christians tell Jews? That God gave them the law to prove that people can't do it. And that they needed a perfect sacrifice in Jesus to pay the penalty for their sins. I can't imagine a world without all the different religious/spiritual teachings that are out there.

 

[CG Didymus]

There are three kinds of divine Prophets. One kind are the universal Manifestations, which are even as the sun. Through Their advent the world of existence is renewed, a new cycle is inaugurated, a new religion is revealed, souls are quickened to a new life, and East and West are flooded with light. These Souls are the universal Manifestations of God and have been sent forth to the entire world and the generality of mankind.

That's why I don't see Adam, Noah, Abraham and even Moses as "manifestations." And, like I've said, I don't think even the Jews see them that way. Adam and Noah? I would think are totally and completely mythical. So I would question it if the Baha'i Faith treats them as real and as manifestations. Abraham? To me myth and legend, but he is right in the middle of four religions. So let's pretend he is real. He didn't leave a book. He didn't found a religion. And he lied about his wife to an Egyptian ruler. So I see him as a godly men with faults like all of us. He did hear directly from God, though. I guess? Maybe? But I'd question if that was really God speaking. What kind of a God tells a man to kill his son? Not a very funny joke. Then there is Moses. He killed an Egyptian. Then later in life God talks to him. He parts seas. He has God send plagues. To much stuff there that is too mythical. But, it's never because he was all that special. It was the God of Israel doing everything. Anyway, I'm sure you've heard all this from me before. If you got anything new to add go ahead. If not, don't worry about it.

 

[Trailblazer]

That's why I don't see Adam, Noah, Abraham and even Moses as "manifestations." And, like I've said, I don't think even the Jews see them that way. Adam and Noah? I would think are totally and completely mythical. So I would question it if the Baha'i Faith treats them as real and as manifestations. Abraham? To me myth and legend, but he is right in the middle of four religions. So let's pretend he is real. He didn't leave a book. He didn't found a religion. And he lied about his wife to an Egyptian ruler. So I see him as a godly men with faults like all of us. He did hear directly from God, though. I guess? Maybe? But I'd question if that was really God speaking. What kind of a God tells a man to kill his son? Not a very funny joke. Then there is Moses. He killed an Egyptian. Then later in life God talks to him. He parts seas. He has God send plagues. To much stuff there that is too mythical. But, it's never because he was all that special. It was the God of Israel doing everything. Anyway, I'm sure you've heard all this from me before. If you got anything new to add go ahead. If not, don't worry about it.

Maybe all of those you cited were not Universal Manifestations of God; rather, they were Messengers or Prophets. Baha'u'llah never called them Manifestations of God, Baha'is called them that. Baha'u'llah called them Prophets or Messengers. So, just as Christians need to read their scriptures and assign meanings, Baha'is need to do likewise. Otherwise that could be misconstrued.

Baha'u'llah wrote about the men He considered Prophets in The Kitáb-i-Íqán.

Baha'u'llah referred to Abraham and Moses and Noah so that is how I know they existed. He also referred to some things they did, but anything He did not mention I am not obliged to believe and I can see it as a myth.

Have you ever read The Kitáb-i-Íqán?
The first part of it is an exposition on progressive revelation.

 

[Trailblazer]

The first two... faith in what? And knowledge of what? All religions are evolving. If we ask Jews if the purpose of their religion has been fulfilled, I don't think they will say "yes". And I don't think that they will say it had been fulfilled when Jesus arrived on the scene. And what do Christians tell Jews? That God gave them the law to prove that people can't do it. And that they needed a perfect sacrifice in Jesus to pay the penalty for their sins. I can't imagine a world without all the different religious/spiritual teachings that are out there.

Faith in God and knowledge of God.

No, all religions are not evolving, most are standing still, afraid of change. At least that is true of all the Abrahamic religions, except the Baha'i Faith. However, I think that Hinduism and Buddhism are evolving to meet the needs of the times.

Imo, Jews won't say that the purpose of their religion has been fulfilled because they do not want to face the fact that the dispensation of Moses came to an end when Jesus showed up on the scene, and just like Christians, Jews want to keep waiting for their Messiah who will come and restore their religion and keep it going forever. Yes, all the older Abrahamic religions want to be special, chosen, the only way, even the Muslims. That will never change until people embrace the Baha'i Faith.

You can't imagine a world without all the different religious/spiritual teachings that are out there because that is a long way off, but I know it will come eventually since one common Faith was ordained by God. I have no idea what this Faith will be called.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Maybe all of those you cited were not Universal Manifestations of God; rather, they were Messengers or Prophets. Baha'u'llah never called them Manifestations of God, Baha'is called them that. Baha'u'llah called them Prophets or Messengers. So, just as Christians need to read their scriptures and assign meanings, Baha'is need to do likewise. Otherwise that could be misconstrued.

Baha'u'llah wrote about the men He considered Prophets in The Kitáb-i-Íqán.

Baha'u'llah referred to Abraham and Moses and Noah so that is how I know they existed. He also referred to some things they did, but anything He did not mention I am not obliged to believe and I can see it as a myth.

Have you ever read The Kitáb-i-Íqán?
The first part of it is an exposition on progressive revelation.

Interesting. Why would bahai call the prophets manifestations if bahaullah called them prophets and messengers?

Prophets and messengers makes more sense than manifestations.

 

[Trailblazer]

Interesting. Why would bahai call the prophets manifestations if bahaullah called them prophets and messengers?

Prophets and messengers makes more sense than manifestations.

Depending upon the context of the passage, Baha'u'llah referred to them as Manifestations of God, or He referred to them as Messengers and Prophets. He also referred to them as Servants of God.

 

[nPeace]

I fully agree that God chooses His method of communication, and because he is God, he does not depend on man to think for him, or decide what is best...

Hebrews 1:1-4 is not any kind if proof that God does not use Baha'u'llah. All it proves is that God used Jesus during the Dispensation of Jesus. According to my beliefs, God used Muhammad, the Bab and Baha'u'llah after the Dispensation of Jesus ended.

It really does not matter what God did in the past. Time marches on, it does not stand still.

Thank you for this acknowledgment: "...what I believe has no bearing on reality. Reality simply exists." I got ahead of myself.

What the scripture proves is that what you believe has no bearing on reality. What is that reality? It is this... Please, I am not shouting.
"at the end of these days he [God] has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, . . . [whom (God's son)] after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. (Hebrews 1:1-4)

No mention of God using another Messiah, Bab, Babu, Bahu, Bahaullah, Bobby....You get the idea. No other Savior.

Confirmed by Peter...
(1 Peter 1:20, 21) 20 True, he was foreknown before the founding of the world, but he was made manifest at the end of the times for your sake. 21 Through him you are believers in God, the one who raised him up from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope might be in God.

(Acts 4:12) Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.

Confirmed by Paul...
(Hebrews 9:26) Otherwise, he would have to suffer often from the founding of the world. But now he has manifested himself once for all time at the conclusion of the systems of things to do away with sin through the sacrifice of himself.

You seem to be saying that what you believe, is more important than what the apostles knew, and taught, and what they said, is not truth. Is that what you are saying?
If it is, then that would indicate that you don't regard the Bible, as having any say in reality, where God and truth are concerned. Is that the case?

i am giving you an opportunity to explain your position clearly, because, right now, i don't see how you can harmonize what you believe, with what the Bible actually says, both through the prophets, and disciples of Christ... not to mention Christ himself.

I want to know how Bahais justify their belief in another prophet of God, against such scriptures as mentioned above, among many others.
If I am derailing this thread, please let me know. It seems to me, all of this is in line with the OP, but if it isn't, I can create a thread dealing specifically with this.
I can do so hopefully before month end, but right now, i am rather busy, hence I will also address your responses in the other thread, at a later time.

I still want to hear your response to this post though.
If there is another to come, by whom we might get to know God, and be saved, I want to see where it is written in a document, or letter, we might consider trustworthy. Where? Is the question. I want to know... What basis is there for believing there is another?
Don't you consider that a reasonable position to take?

Hear you later, God's will.

 

[Shad]

I have read everything in John chapters 14-18 with a fine-toothed comb.

So I guess you missed this as the Comforter is different from Jesus while you claimed the Comforter was at one time Jesus himself. All those verse show a separation between the two not the claim that they are the same which you made.

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. John 14:26

"When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me, 15:26

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. 16:7

 

[Trailblazer]

So I guess you missed this as the Comforter is different from Jesus while you claimed the Comforter was at one time Jesus himself. All those verse show a separation between the two not the claim that they are the same which you made.

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. John 14:26

"When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me, 15:26

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. 16:7

According to my beliefs, the Comforter is a Title for the man who brings the Holy Spirit, but the Comforter can also be thought of as the Holy Spirit since it is the Bounty of God that comforts people. God sent the Comforter/Holy Spirit when He sent Jesus and Baha’u’llah. Jesus was a Comforter and Baha'u’llah was another Comforter who the Father sent in Jesus' name.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

It makes logical sense that the Comforter must be associated with a man, because a “disembodied” Holy Spirit cannot do any of the following things that it says the Comforter and Spirit of truth will do in these verses: John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:8,13,14

• Teach you all things
• Call to remembrance what Jesus said
• Testify of Jesus
• Glorify Jesus, receive of Jesus, and shew it unto you
• Guide you into all truth
• Speak what He hears and shew you things to come
• Reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment

John 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Just as Jesus promised, Baha’u’llah glorified Jesus and testified of Jesus.

“We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 86

 

[Shad]

According to my beliefs, the Comforter is a Title for the man who brings the Holy Spirit, but the Comforter can also be thought of as the Holy Spirit since it is the Bounty of God that comforts people. God sent the Comforter/Holy Spirit when He sent Jesus and Baha’u’llah. Jesus was a Comforter and Baha'u’llah was another Comforter who the Father sent in Jesus' name.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

It makes logical sense that the Comforter must be associated with a man, because a “disembodied” Holy Spirit cannot do any of the following things that it says the Comforter and Spirit of truth will do in these verses: John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:8,13,14

• Teach you all things
• Call to remembrance what Jesus said
• Testify of Jesus
• Glorify Jesus, receive of Jesus, and shew it unto you
• Guide you into all truth
• Speak what He hears and shew you things to come
• Reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment

John 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Just as Jesus promised, Baha’u’llah glorified Jesus and testified of Jesus.

“We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 86

Which is merely reading what you want or are directed to into the text not reading the text itself.