The most important question of all

[robocop (actually)]

"was an atheist" so what are your metaphysical beliefs today?

The same like I said. I have found the physical structure of thought and that material and consciousness are linked.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

The same like I said. I have found the physical structure of thought and that material and consciousness are linked.

Ok

 

[viole]

I believe in God and evolution.

I believe in neither of them.

Ciao

-viole

 

[paarsurrey]

Is there a God ?

Geneticist Francis S.Collins. Made a valid point. "If there is no God, then there is no life beyond the present one, no higher authority on moral issues".

The answer however is certainly not evident.
Atheists view this question through the lens of materialism and a philosophy that assumes purely material causes for the origin of life.
Evolutionist Richard C.Lewontin made his bias clear: "We (atheist) have a prior commitment to materialism, ... materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
Hence, materialists embrace the only alternative they have- evolution.

Regrettably, many of the world's religions have added to the confusion by teaching things that contradict not only scientific knowledge but unambiguous scriptural doctrines, replacing them with their own.

In the 13thcentury, " Saint" Thomas Aquinas, called the Angelic Doctor, advocated the death sentence for heresy. The "right" of the church to torture and burn heretics was, in fact, a horrible corollary to the unscriptural doctrines of hell and purgatory. The church tortured in the name of a God whom she blasphemously claims is a torturer himself.

Faced with conflicting theories and philosophies, many give up their search for the truth about God's existence.

But what could be more worthwhile and of greater consequence- than finding a trustworthy answer to such a fundamental question ?

"Faced with conflicting theories and philosophies, many give up their search for the truth about God's existence."

The search must continue with with sincerity.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Briefly with the atheist bit, I believe in rebirth and I am a full hundred percent atheist. So, its a generalization that because I dont believe in god, other views out god, if one likes, afterlife, and origin of purpose is strictly material for athiest just because god isnt a part of our lives

But, outside of that, to some people its worthwhile but I dont see it worthwhile for the benefit of the whole. I guess a full percentage of people ask questions like this but I lived in a isolated family so I had no time and chance to ask these type questions even if I knew if they were important (as I see now) for me to ask it. So, a lot of generalization in this post.

But many people do give up when the suffering and mystery outweighs their needing motivation and passion to get beyond research. Research and writing questions is exhausting after awhile.

I think a better way to search for answers is through ones passion. Say if one loves nature, instead of trying to find "god" in temples of worship, go outside and be in a state of meditaiton. God isnt that hard to figure out when, another way to find this, when you put aside what you think god should be like. When you have preexisting definition of god-which by definition there are none-the search is even harder.

Thats like trying to use teh definition of the christian god but feeing pulled to a Pagan one. It leaves one confused. If they set aside one god and fully understand the other then the confusion would be less. But syncronizing the two just doesnt work.

Many atheist are materialist but there are many others like myself that "get it' but insofar follow a belief just because we figured out the religious answers to life questions. It really goes beyond that.


I do think philosophies do help understand the analogy and concept of god. Plat's the Myth of the Cave is a good example of what he calls the human condition (dont read ite commentaries if you look it on on google).

God is present just the problem is, god isnt abrahamic nor hindu nor pagan nor... so a lot of terms are too vague to even consider who believes what and what exists and how this vague concept can anwser someones specific questions.

"I think a better way to search for answers is through ones passion."

Why not to pray* to G-d and seek His help to find the truthful G-d with passion, please, please?

Regards

____________
*[1:5]
Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help.
[1:6]
Guide us in the right path —
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 1: Al-Fatihah

 

[paarsurrey]

Existence is a given. What is God?

That's a far more important question.
A myth?
A legend?
A story?
An illusion?
A delusion?
Is it self?
Is it everything?
Is it love?
Is it the universe?
Is it a feeling?
An emotion?
A sense?
A voice?
A calling?
A title?
A person?
A place?
A state of mind?
A state of nevermind?

I could keep going.

G-d is Truth. Right, please?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

That's the most important question? No way.

It is because G-d is. Right, please?

Regards

 

[Sir Doom]

G-d is Truth. Right, please?

Regards

No. God is mystery! The opposite of truth.

Boom.

 

[Dell]

Is there a God ?

Geneticist Francis S.Collins. Made a valid point. "If there is no God, then there is no life beyond the present one, no higher authority on moral issues".

The answer however is certainly not evident.
Atheists view this question through the lens of materialism and a philosophy that assumes purely material causes for the origin of life.
Evolutionist Richard C.Lewontin made his bias clear: "We (atheist) have a prior commitment to materialism, ... materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
Hence, materialists embrace the only alternative they have- evolution.

Regrettably, many of the world's religions have added to the confusion by teaching things that contradict not only scientific knowledge but unambiguous scriptural doctrines, replacing them with their own.

In the 13thcentury, " Saint" Thomas Aquinas, called the Angelic Doctor, advocated the death sentence for heresy. The "right" of the church to torture and burn heretics was, in fact, a horrible corollary to the unscriptural doctrines of hell and purgatory. The church tortured in the name of a God whom she blasphemously claims is a torturer himself.

Faced with conflicting theories and philosophies, many give up their search for the truth about God's existence.

But what could be more worthwhile and of greater consequence- than finding a trustworthy answer to such a fundamental question ?

Interesting lecture by Sean Carroll

 

[Thief]

One could spend their whole life looking for certain answers, die and be none the wiser.

How many millions and millions of folks have come before only at the end of life finding no answers have been forthcoming?

Worthwhile to come up empty? I think not. I feel there are better ways to spend my time than seeking answers to unsolvable questions. Whether God exists or God does not has no affect on my life. Why seek answers to questions which do not matter in this life?

so if you fail to find a cause to continue.......then you don't

 

[Thief]

Existence is a given. What is God?

That's a far more important question.
A myth?
A legend?
A story?
An illusion?
A delusion?
Is it self?
Is it everything?
Is it love?
Is it the universe?
Is it a feeling?
An emotion?
A sense?
A voice?
A calling?
A title?
A person?
A place?
A state of mind?
A state of nevermind?

I could keep going.

you forgot.....First

Someone had to be ....First

 

[Sir Doom]

you forgot.....First

Someone had to be ....First

I could keep going.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Is there a God ?

I can't see how there could be.

 

[Nakosis]

so if you fail to find a cause to continue.......then you don't

Is this true? I mean how long does a person keep looking? You can keep looking till you die, convince yourself you've found it, whatever it is, or spend your time with other pursuits. Kind of a personal choice.

 

[Looncall]

you forgot.....First

Someone had to be ....First

Why a "someone"? How do yoiu know this?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Why is this the most important question? I'm not convinced it is.

I agree. @Neuropteron seems to be begging the question by assuming the question is important.

 

[YmirGF]

Religion can say whatever but God is different. People constantly think God is stuck in a book.....

But... how would you possibly know for sure? Yours is also just an assumption based on how you expect reality to behave.

Is this true? I mean how long does a person keep looking? You can keep looking till you die, convince yourself you've found it, whatever it is, or spend your time with other pursuits. Kind of a personal choice.

Plus, the types of comments you have aroused are predicated on the assumption that there was some flaw in your search. A search for god MUST reveal god otherwise you have not looked hard enough or correctly. There is never any suggestion that you search with all your might and can come to different conclusions or say, "Based on my own experience, god does not exist." It's a self-fulfilling fantasy, really. It's sort of like archaeologists getting stuck on finding evidence of Piltdown man.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

But... how would you possibly know for sure? Yours is also just an assumption based on how you expect reality to behave.

Mines is a belief and yes it’s an assumption on my part. No different than the atheist who says my belief is wrong and that God doesn’t exist. We all have truisms we follow.

 

[Looncall]

G-d is Truth. Right, please?

Regards

Word salad.

 

[allfoak]

Is there a God ?

Geneticist Francis S.Collins. Made a valid point. "If there is no God, then there is no life beyond the present one, no higher authority on moral issues".

The answer however is certainly not evident.
Atheists view this question through the lens of materialism and a philosophy that assumes purely material causes for the origin of life.
Evolutionist Richard C.Lewontin made his bias clear: "We (atheist) have a prior commitment to materialism, ... materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
Hence, materialists embrace the only alternative they have- evolution.

Regrettably, many of the world's religions have added to the confusion by teaching things that contradict not only scientific knowledge but unambiguous scriptural doctrines, replacing them with their own.

In the 13thcentury, " Saint" Thomas Aquinas, called the Angelic Doctor, advocated the death sentence for heresy. The "right" of the church to torture and burn heretics was, in fact, a horrible corollary to the unscriptural doctrines of hell and purgatory. The church tortured in the name of a God whom she blasphemously claims is a torturer himself.

Faced with conflicting theories and philosophies, many give up their search for the truth about God's existence.

But what could be more worthwhile and of greater consequence- than finding a trustworthy answer to such a fundamental question ?

I don't see it as a very important question.
Most live out their entire lives without ever really giving it serious thought.
This means of course that life can be lived without having to even asked the question, let alone consider that there may be an answer.