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The most important question of all

siti

Well-Known Member

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Not much of a salad - more like bit of leftover shredded cabbage I think! Like this too:

Apart from why "someone" as someone already asked...Why? Or indeed How? How could there be a first anything? Why does there have to be a first anything - and how the hell did that happen?
It's a simple thing

the large numbers of life.....did not happen all at once

back it up......and there is One standing

so to speak
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Is there a God ?
Why on Earth would that be the most important question?

If we aren’t worried about the merits of the question, surely “is there a being that will devour God and all of us?” is more important, no?

And if we are worried about merits, what merit is there in the idea of a god? What reason do you have to say that this “God” you mention is likely enough that we should concern ourselves with it?
 

siti

Well-Known Member
It's a simple thing

the large numbers of life.....did not happen all at once

back it up......and there is One standing

so to speak
One is one and all alone and ever more shall be so! Clearly there is something wrong with that (il)logic. In any case, how did the One happen?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Word salad.
Salad

1 A cold dish of various mixtures of raw or cooked vegetables, usually seasoned with oil, vinegar, or other dressing and sometimes accompanied by meat, fish, or other ingredients.

‘a green salad’

mass noun ‘bowls of salad’
  1. 1.1mass noun, with modifier A mixture containing a specified ingredient served with a dressing.
    ‘a red pepper filled with tuna salad’

  2. 1.2 A vegetable suitable for eating raw.
    ‘sow salads like lettuce, radish, and spring onion’

  1. salad | Definition of salad in English by Oxford Dictionaries
G-d has given many bounties to humans for a good health, salad is one of them. Right, please?

Regards
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
One is one and all alone and ever more shall be so! Clearly there is something wrong with that (il)logic. In any case, how did the One happen?
your question is an echo I have heard since I posted 9yrs ago....

and the answer remains.....we get to ask Him when get there

until then....Someone had to be First
 

siti

Well-Known Member
your question is an echo I have heard since I posted 9yrs ago....

and the answer remains.....we get to ask Him when get there

until then....Someone had to be First
No idea then - just as I suspected. And yet you round off your admission of abject ignorance by repeating your original baseless claim? Were you sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating "not listening, not listening..." over and over as you wrote your post by any chance?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
No idea then - just as I suspected. And yet you round off your admission of abject ignorance by repeating your original baseless claim? Were you sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating "not listening, not listening..." over and over as you wrote your post by any chance?
it's a line of thought.....

and you can't follow it
 

tayla

My dog's name is Tayla
Is there a God ?
I believe there is, but this is not provable, it's mere belief based on sound philosophical evidence.

"If there is no God, then there is no life beyond the present one, no higher authority on moral issues".
Whether or not there is a God has no bearing on: (1) whether there is an afterlife, nor on (2) whether you can have sound morals.

Atheists view this question through the lens of materialism and a philosophy that assumes purely material causes for the origin of life.

Hence, materialists embrace the only alternative they have- evolution.
Yes, materialism limits your options, by definition. If there is no immaterial aspect to the self, then when the body dissolves, so does the conscious sense of self.

But it's possible to believe in evolution and God at the same time, so evolution is not of necessity anti-God.

But what could be more worthwhile and of greater consequence- than finding a trustworthy answer to such a fundamental question?
Actually, the question of whether or not our soul (if we have one) survives death is irrelevant. It is unknowable and it is not necessary to know this to have a fulfilled and meaningful life. Atheists don't believe it and they have fulfilled and meaningful lives, at least as much as anyone. In fact, many Fundamentalist evangelical Christians I know live a pretty turbulent emotional and spiritual life, always fretting about whether God approves, and why he did such and such, and are their works really pleasing him, and on and on.
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Salad

1 A cold dish of various mixtures of raw or cooked vegetables, usually seasoned with oil, vinegar, or other dressing and sometimes accompanied by meat, fish, or other ingredients.

‘a green salad’

mass noun ‘bowls of salad’
  1. 1.1mass noun, with modifier A mixture containing a specified ingredient served with a dressing.
    ‘a red pepper filled with tuna salad’

  2. 1.2 A vegetable suitable for eating raw.
    ‘sow salads like lettuce, radish, and spring onion’

  1. salad | Definition of salad in English by Oxford Dictionaries
G-d has given many bounties to humans for a good health, salad is one of them. Right, please?

Regards

A word salad is a meaningless combination of words. Eg "square circle".
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Is that what it is? I thought it was just a bald assumption standing in the place of either evidence or reason - since you seem to have neither...

you got that right!
let's try once more.....

Someone had to be First
 

siti

Well-Known Member
I see a troll.....

try again.....Someone had to be First

It's a simple line of thought
a regression to the beginning
Prove that there is no infinite regression then. And I am not trolling - this is a debate forum and you have made a statement that you cannot support with either evidence or logic...there is absolutely no logical or evidential proof that there cannot be an infinite regression - even of persons - that have existed before us...if you can prove that there cannot be an infinite regression then I will accept that something had to be first. Even then you still fall well short of your insistence that someone had to be first. But like I said, if there can be an infinite regression, then there is no logical obstacle to an infinite regression of 'persons' either.
 
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