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The Musk Melt-down
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De Bono's Marmite plan for peace in Middle Yeast
So why did you write the following since you have experienced the trauma yourself? In this era where there are many public posts (see Work), people these days talk about their experiences publicly.
Why do you assume it's a conspiracy? It's just business and politics as usual. No need for any conspiracy, as there's nothing illegal about any of this.
Private businesses have the right to set up rules about what is put on their sites. RF has rules. Blogs have rules. And for that matter Germany, a Western nation has stricter rules than the US does.
So your "Western-like notion" makes no sense to me given what the west is like.
This....
"....those who have the wealth and power to control the media and means of communication are the ones who decide what is "correct" and what is not."
...smells of accusation of concerted conspiratorial action.
How so? It's merely acknowledgement that a great deal of wealth is required to be able to buy and own large media outlets. It's also well-known that corporations have PR departments and are very mindful of their corporate image in the eyes of the public. This is not some deep dark secret or underground conspiracy. It's also self-evident that those who own a thing have the power to control a thing.
There's nothing illegal about any of it, and I'm not alleging any conspiracy or collusion. But it is a fact that very few people at the top have control over the media and means of communication. It's not a democracy, and the First Amendment only applies to the owners, not the users. That's no conspiracy, that's just how it is.
You say one thing, while it apparently conceals
a different meaning between the lines.
The quoted text still smacks of conspiracy, not
mere independent actors.
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You may be overanalyzing it a bit too much.
You might be continually walking back
statements designed for plausible deniability
Plausible deniability for what?
Meaning denied.
You would have to go to the initial statement which, in context, was about the OP in which I said that at this time there it is really about the change in direction and not a Musk meltdown.
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and the ensuing discussion. Not the very specific application you followed.
Still not sure what you mean.
I do sometimes construct statements in such a way as to indicate that they might be mere speculation or suggestions of possibilities. I try to avoid phrasing them in such a way as to be interpreted as outright claims or accusations. That you have nevertheless chosen to do so is unfortunate, but it's not really my fault.
I wonder.
I see part of the difference. I see a classic "bull in a china shop" situation not a reasoned change in direction.
Meanwhile, back at what Musk is doing, it seems a lot of engineers reacted to Musk's ultimatum with an upraised middle finger. Unlike some who want to look at this situation through political "glasses", I see it in business and especially personnel terms.
Panicked Elon Musk Begging Engineers Not to Leave
Earlier this week, the billionaire CEO sent an email to staff telling them that they "need to be extremely hardcore" and work long hours at the office, or quit and get three months severance, as The Washington Post reports.
Employees had until 5 pm on Thursday to click "yes" and be part of Twitter moving forward or take the money and part ways. The problem for Musk? According to former Uber engineer Gergely Orosz, who has had a close ear to Twitter's recent inner turmoil, "far fewer than expected [developers] hit 'yes.'"
So many employees called Musk's bluff, Orosz says, that Musk is now "having meetings with top engineers to convince them to stay," in an embarrassing reversal of his public-facing bravado earlier this week.
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That kind of hostility in leadership — Musk has shown an astonishing lack of respect — clearly isn't sitting well with many developers, who have taken up his to get three months of severance and leave.
Panicked Elon Musk Begging Engineers Not to Leave
Earlier this week, the billionaire CEO sent an email to staff telling them that they "need to be extremely hardcore" and work long hours at the office, or quit and get three months severance, as The Washington Post reports.
Employees had until 5 pm on Thursday to click "yes" and be part of Twitter moving forward or take the money and part ways. The problem for Musk? According to former Uber engineer Gergely Orosz, who has had a close ear to Twitter's recent inner turmoil, "far fewer than expected [developers] hit 'yes.'"
So many employees called Musk's bluff, Orosz says, that Musk is now "having meetings with top engineers to convince them to stay," in an embarrassing reversal of his public-facing bravado earlier this week.
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That kind of hostility in leadership — Musk has shown an astonishing lack of respect — clearly isn't sitting well with many developers, who have taken up his to get three months of severance and leave.
Following up on my last post. I worked at a small company where the tech side did things right. The boss called everyone together and basically said: "you've all heard rumors of layoffs. The rumors are accurate. If you're concerned, come and see me and I'll tell you that you're OK, we're not sure or start looking now." When the day came all those who were laid off had a personal interview, a discussion of the severance deal, an expression of sadness that this was necessary and thanks for the work they did. Musk at twitter did the opposite:
https://fortune.com/2022/11/08/elon-musk-twitter-mass-layoff-cruel-human-resources-managers/
Twitter’s case study of how not to lay people off
Compassionate layoffs, experts say, are ones that are as small as possible and done only as a last resort. They’re communicated clearly and conducted with respect. They are mindful, too, of the feelings and workloads of those left behind.
In other words, they are exactly the opposite of what Elon Musk did at Twitter last week.
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Ideally, layoffs are conducted individually and in person, according to Liz Petersen, a manager in the knowledge center at the Society for Human Resources Management. If that’s not possible, the next-best option would be video, followed by a phone call. Email is the “lowest-level option.” Obviously, individual meetings are harder to do when you’re laying off half the company.
“There is a kind and respectful way to let an employee go, and I feel like this last round was neither of those things,” Brooks E. Scott, executive coach and CEO of Merging Path, told Recode. “You’ve got some employees that had been there for years. Don’t you at least owe them a phone call or zoom or something?”
https://fortune.com/2022/11/08/elon-musk-twitter-mass-layoff-cruel-human-resources-managers/
Twitter’s case study of how not to lay people off
Compassionate layoffs, experts say, are ones that are as small as possible and done only as a last resort. They’re communicated clearly and conducted with respect. They are mindful, too, of the feelings and workloads of those left behind.
In other words, they are exactly the opposite of what Elon Musk did at Twitter last week.
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Ideally, layoffs are conducted individually and in person, according to Liz Petersen, a manager in the knowledge center at the Society for Human Resources Management. If that’s not possible, the next-best option would be video, followed by a phone call. Email is the “lowest-level option.” Obviously, individual meetings are harder to do when you’re laying off half the company.
“There is a kind and respectful way to let an employee go, and I feel like this last round was neither of those things,” Brooks E. Scott, executive coach and CEO of Merging Path, told Recode. “You’ve got some employees that had been there for years. Don’t you at least owe them a phone call or zoom or something?”
If'n ya want employees to work long hours without
adequate pay or job satisfaction, they'll leave.
**** Elon Musk.