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The Mystery Thread

Earthling

David Henson
Your position on evolution and why you reject it.

I don't know why you're being so defensive. I'm being as polite as I can be.

Very well. I will be as polite as I can be. I reject evolution because it's stupid.

Nothing in this world can make you understand this if you allowed yourself to be indoctrinated with the nonsense in school. You have my sympathy, but, you can learn from it. Learn to think for yourself.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Yes, seriously. Explain.





I dont think your understanding what im saying. And i dont know if i can help you understand either.



No, thats not what i have done. Ive done what science does. I dont know why you cant see that. This is like trying to drscribe a tree to a blind person. They cant see it.



Do you need to do a test in order to see design and order? No, ya dont. Vut, even those who have, still, theres design and order.



Logic, philosophy. And philosophy is not the same as religion. There different.



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vKiaH-Xy9tk&ved=2ahUKEwjosbuol9_fAhWBm4MKHe-XA_IQjjgwA3oECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1rFbeJuz5XQywuZ7OhDaMk

Theres one source for now.



You do understand the difference between being shown and actually seeing it, dont you?



Let me ask you, whats the difference between religion and philosophy?



No, i dont THINK i did, i KNOW i presented a evidence-base scientific case for ID.



Anyone who already agrees with ID, will see the evidence i presented. Anyone elsr, like you, will not see it.



There has to be a prime reality.



A leprechaun is better then "nothing" creating it all. Its also better then infinite regression, which make the universes events take forever to happen, which means theyed never happen.

But hey. A leprechaun is confined to space, time and matter. The God i defined is not. Thats the difference.



If God created it, which the evidence is there by design, then God is tge energy, logically.



Its not religion. People who are religioys can adhere to it. But its not religion.
I'm not really sure what to say to you at this point. You're just doing the same things over and over.....making religiously-based empty assertions and declaring that you're doing good science.

All I can tell you is that if you truly think what you've done here constitutes science, you are sorely mistaken.
 
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I'm not really sure what to say to you at this point. You're just doing the same things over and over.....making religiously-based empty assertions and declaring that you're doing good science.

All I can tell you is that if you truly think what you've done here constitutes science, you are sorely mistaken.

Whats the difference between religion and philosophy?
 

Earthling

David Henson
If you actually tried to learn I would still try to help you.

You can't help me, sir. To me it all seems ridiculous. You can't pound it into my head and I can't give you what you want. If a simple question bends you out of shape it's just a matter of me accepting it. You can say that isn't the proper question asked in the proper way because I'm ignorant . . . but c'mon. You aren't stupid. You know it's just a matter of me accepting it.

I can't do that because it doesn't make sense to me. The premise is set. Everything from there is "evidence" of that faulty premise. But it isn't. It's just nonsense.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You can't help me, sir. To me it all seems ridiculous. You can't pound it into my head and I can't give you what you want. If a simple question bends you out of shape it's just a matter of me accepting it. You can say that isn't the proper question asked in the proper way because I'm ignorant . . . but c'mon. You aren't stupid. You know it's just a matter of me accepting it.

I can't do that because it doesn't make sense to me. The premise is set. Everything from there is "evidence" of that faulty premise. But it isn't. It's just nonsense.


Your question was weak and only demonstrated a lack of understanding. I tried to explain that to you and you got rather angry. You did not appreciate my "Steve" answer and you would not accept a valid one. It appears that you are blaming others for your inability to understand a rather simple concept.

That is why I often offer to start at the beginning and work up to the concept. How about forgetting the theory for now and working on understanding the basics of science. I have yet to meet an evolution denier that understands the concept of evidence. That is a good place to start, would you like to begin there?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
You still do not get it. It is based on what actually exists around us all. When I watch your actions to discover who you are, why would I look at books and beliefs about you when I have the Real Thing in front of my nose???? It seems what I have been saying to you is beyond you. It's going to take much work for you to find understanding.

So, you found god by looking at your nose. OK



What should you learn? You should be able to Discover the Truth, find Understanding and Learn what it's all about.

Clearly, you are not ready. There are other things you would rather hold onto. That's ok too. In time, what I have said will become more important to you. Until then, as I see it, there are other things you need to work out first.

You are not the first theobabbler I've come across in my time. Comments from folks like you are often along the lines of ...

  • You are not ready to see The Truth.
  • You must open your mind to see The Truth.
  • You have not learned to see the entity that is The Universe.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
ecco said:
Theists:
Every thing has a cause and an origin.
Uh, oh, er, {cough, cough} except my god.

And you really want to talk about logic?
Why not refute the point of the tenth grader then?

Got nuttin eh. I'm not surprised. I've seen it before so many times.

I know you can't justify your beliefs that your god has always existed. So let's try an easier question: Why did your God wait for 99.999999999999999999999999999+% of Eternity before creating anything?
 
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