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[Estro Felino]

Ahh, the Rothschilds. Subject of many an obviously antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Care to drop any other names?

Anti-Semitism is another thing.
At this point, if a person of Jewish background murders a person, a prosecutor cannot sue them, because that would be Anti-Semitism. Right?
Will you imply that all the followers of a particular religion are saints?
Or that like in every religion there are goodies and baddies?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Anti-Semitism is another thing.
At this point, if a person of Jewish background murders a person, a prosecutor cannot sue them, because that would be Anti-Semitism. Right?

Nope.

But the Rothschilds are undeniably often a target of antisemitic conspiracy theories. I just stated a fact.

Don't want to believe me?

Rothschild family - Wikipedia

Will you imply that all the followers of a particular religion are saints?
Or that like in every religion there are goodies and baddies?

Nope. I'm implying that you may be engaging in an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Like I said, care to drop any more names?

 

[Estro Felino]

Nope.

But the Rothschilds are undeniably often a target of antisemitic conspiracy theories. I just stated a fact.

Don't want to believe me?

Rothschild family - Wikipedia


Nope. I'm implying that you may be engaging in an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Like I said, care to drop any more names?

I understand. So if I say that the Vatican is rotten to the core, it is like a Masonic lair, I am engaging in an anti-Catholic conspiracy theory...I suppose.
Catholicophobia...I like the word. I am a Catholicophobe, then.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I understand. So if I say that the Vatican is rotten to the core, it is like a Masonic lair, I am engagin an anti-Catholic conspiracy theory...I suppose.

Not necessarily. But you are definitely engaged in anti-Masonic conspiracy theories.

Again, what I said was a fact. The Rothschilds are the subject of antisemitic conspiracy theories. I never accused you specifically of antisemitism - although I am implying that you may have fallen for an antisemitic conspiracy theory, or are at the least repeating it.

But this is a moot point. I would like you to mention the names of other people engaged in this conspiracy.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..Very kind of him to allow wars and atrocities, disasters and diseases..

It comes with the territory.
Allah, the Most High, has given mankind the job of making decisions.
It's not easy.

 

[Estro Felino]

Not necessarily. But you are definitely engaged in anti-Masonic conspiracy theories.

Again, what I said was a fact. The Rothschilds are the subject of antisemitic conspiracy theories. I never accused you specifically of antisemitism - although I am implying that you may have fallen for an antisemitic conspiracy theory, or are at the least repeating it.

But this is a moot point. I would like you to mention the names of other people engaged in this conspiracy.

In the sixties many politicians used to call conspiracy theorists whoever spoke of Mafia. Saying it didn't exist.
So the expression "conspiracy theory" is not synonym of baselessness.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

In the sixties many politicians used to call conspiracy theorists whoever spoke of Mafia. Saying it didn't exist.
So the expression "conspiracy theory" is not synonym of baselessness.

Again, I am asking you to name some more names.

 

[Estro Felino]

Again, I am asking you to name some more names.

It deals with persons in their nineties, mostly.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It deals with mummies in their nineties, mostly.

Okay, I'm just going to ask straight out: are a significant number of the people you call "elites" Jewish?

I am willing to take your word for it.

 

[Estro Felino]

Okay, I'm just going to ask straight out: are a significant number of the people you call "elites" Jewish?

I am willing to take your word for it.

Absolutely not. In Brussels there are so many of them and from other religious backgrounds.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Absolutely not. In Brussels there are so many of them and they from other religious backgrounds.

Okay then, I am happy to shelve the implication of engaging with antisemitic conspiracy theories.

You have to understand, the language that you are using is language I most often hear from actual Nazis and fascists; they often use terms like "elites" as a euphemism for "Jews", so when people start talking to me about "elites controlling the world" or some such it tends to set off my alarms. It's sadly not as uncommon as you'd hope it'd be that, when pressed on exactly who the elites are, the names that tend to come up are almost exclusively Jewish people.

But in any case, I'm dragging us off topic here. Let's just agree to leave it by the wayside.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Allah, the Most High, has given mankind the job of making decisions.

Yeah, he has also created Satan to misguide people. So, who is at fault? With all his might, he could not / did not remove Satan. Had it not been for that all people would naturally have worshiped him. Why does he let so much evil exist?

 

[muhammad_isa]

Yeah, he has also created Satan to misguide people. So, who is at fault?

Overall, collectively, we are.

Why does he let so much evil exist?

That's like saying "why did God create humans?"
There is always a reason .. responsibility isn't an easy thing.
Nobody has all the answers.

 

[Aupmanyav]

First he trapped Adam in Eden by leaving with the snake, knowing very well as to what will happen. Now he tests humans unnecessarily knowing very well as to what will happen. Allah knows all. Does not he?

 

[LuisDantas]

In the sixties many politicians used to call conspiracy theorists whoever spoke of Mafia. Saying it didn't exist.
So the expression "conspiracy theory" is not synonym of baselessness.

Any sources or examples?

 

[LuisDantas]

Overall, collectively, we are.


That's like saying "why did God create humans?"
There is always a reason .. responsibility isn't an easy thing.
Nobody has all the answers.

Sorry, but that doesn't really make any sense.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..he tests humans unnecessarily knowing very well as to what will happen..

I don't see it as unnecessarily..
As to knowing what will happen, that is because of our perception of time.
Time is part of the creation, and we have a finite perception of it.
Almighty God is not constrained by the universe as we are.
For God, it is as if what we perceive as the future, has already happened.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Sorry, but that doesn't really make any sense.

What?
..the question of why God created humans capable of choosing evil over righteousness?

 

[LuisDantas]

What?
..the question of why God created humans capable of choosing evil over righteousness?

Your answers to those questions.

They exist to justify themselves, with no discernible connection to the reality of facts.

 

[Estro Felino]

By the way, dearest guys...I don't know how biased my interlocutor (with whom I love to debate ) can be.
Because nobody really knows anybody on social platforms.
For example, my interlocutor can work for some financial and banking élites, hence defends these élites a priori.

As I could be the member of a very prominent Nationalist Movement who supports Putin blindly.
Each of us can have personal motivations.