So you think the Jesus myth is true?
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The Paganisation of Christianity
- Thread starter ronki23
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No. I'm explaining the origin of Easter.
That happened because good, moral Christians haven't burned you at the stake yet for witchcraft. Watch your back.Really? I've been at some excellent ones... You mean to tell me now those were a figment of my imagination?
Guess they must have put something fairly strong in the drinks... funny, you think my memories of them would be more affected.
And again in this thread: what???
I love a good steak.
Oh, me, too. At least you're making sense there.
They'll probably serve me in lieu of the Easter ham...
Do you think the stories about Jesus are true?
What stories? There are lots of 'em. You can ask the Muslims, Bahai's, Sethians, Basilidians, Mormons, Ebionites, Sunday school teachers, people in mental hospitals, and even certain vegetarians for some of them.
I am full of stories, aren't I.
Probably full of other stuff, too...
Veggie gang! I can tell a few stories too.
What you heard was misinformation that a lot of people are quick to believe and then repeat to others as if it were the gospel. As @Rival pointed out, the Christian world beyond the Anglosphere does not call the festival Easter but Pascha, which actually links the festival to Pesach or Passover. Also, if you look at some of the writings of the Church Fathers, Christians in the Mediterranean and the Middle East were calling it Pascha before anybody called it Easter. Moreover, on Pascha, Christians celebrate the central event in the life of Jesus as narrated in the canonical Gospels, not as narrated in a pagan tradition, which would not even involve Jesus.
As to Christmas, I remember reading about how Eastern Christians at first observed what they call the Nativity of the Lord on different dates depending on their geographical locations. Some of the dates were in December whereas others were in January. Today, most Eastern Christians observe it on 25 December according to the Julian Calendar and the Revised Julian Calendar. The Armenian Apostolic Church observes it in January according to the Gregorian Calendar, which most Armenian Churches use. Considering that Orthodox, Catholic, and classical Protestant Christians have a high view of the humanity of Jesus, it is no surprise that they celebrate his nativity on any day of the year.
The ancient Egyptians celebrated the birthdays of Aset, Wesir, Nebet-Hut, and Sutekh. Millions of Hindus to this day celebrate the birth of Kṛṣṇa. Does this suggest Kṛṣṇa Janmāṣṭamī is rooted in ancient Egyptian religion or that the ancient Egyptians' celebrations are rooted in Hinduism? No. On the other hand, if Christians celebrate any event that occurred in the life of Jesus, it must be rooted in paganism according to some people. It's really stupid. Speaking of stupid, the same sort of people claim the Ka'bah in Makkah was originally a Śiva temple.
In my opinion, how authentic any denomination or Church is probably depends on its origin.
All of them. If the stories about Jesus are true then there should be a consistency of details, yes?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Yeah well I don't love a good steak. Yuk. And I'm not a vegetarian. I wonder if the nations so concerned about the earth going under because of lack of climate control (in other words, greed) will address the cattle industry. I doubt it. I still have a hamburger or chili con carne once in a while.Oh, me, too. At least you're making sense there.
More for me, then. Think I'll get some from the store tomorrow if the BOGO meat sale is still on.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I learned that many churches celebrate Christmas on January 7.
December 25th vs. January 7th: The Various Differences Between Two Christmas Dates | Egyptian Streets
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
lol, that's ok with me. It just shows how viciously greedy corporations and others can be. (Not talking about you, of course...because frankly my dear I don't care how much steak you eat...lol)More for me, then. Think I'll get some from the store tomorrow if the BOGO meat sale is still on.
Very nice. Yes, Orthodox Churches that still observe the Julian Calendar celebrate the Nativity/Christmas on 25 December on the Julian Calendar, which corresponds to 7 January on the Gregorian Calendar. On the other hand, the Armenian Apostolic Church observes the Gregorian Calendar and insists on celebrating the birth of Jesus on 6 January for historical reasons.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Yes, from what I am reading I see that it was a change of calendar. I'll try to learn more about it when I have more time.
Yes, from what I am reading I see that it was a change of calendar. I'll try to learn more about it when I have more time.
Very nice. Whatever your affiliation is as a Christian, the history of calendars in the Christian world is a bit interesting.