The Paris attacks

[jonathan180iq]

What do you think would happen to the world if commerce was critically wounded?

But has world commerce actually been affected at all? The vast majority of the French population got up the next morning and went to work, buying their coffee and baguette on the way there.

If that was truly their ultimate motive, it was an incredible failure, don't you think?

 

[savagewind]

But has world commerce actually been affected at all? The vast majority of the French population got up the next morning and went to work, buying their coffee and baguette on the way there.

If that was truly their ultimate motive, it was an incredible failure, don't you think?

Work and meals are not events, concerts and going out to eat. But I agree that people will do whatever they want to do until force stops them.

 

[jonathan180iq]

Work and meals are not events, concerts and going out to eat. But I agree that people will do whatever they want to do until force stops them.

Huh? Work and meals are absolutely events. They're events that are attended to by millions of people every single day in Paris alone, contributing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of economic churning. Concerts are still scheduled, plans are still made, vacations are still had, business is still conducted, goods and services are constantly being exchanged... If the aim of these sociopaths is simply economic turmoil, they've essentially done nothing at all. Hell, I'd encourage everyone in the world to go out right now and buy oodles of frivolous things just spite these morons if that were truly the case... But it's not.

 

[BSM1]

Yes there is a difference in afraid and fear.
I could be afraid that what I may or may not do could adversely affect someone, but I do not fear doing it.
I could be afraid that I will not perform to my utmost ability in doing a certain task but I do not fear doing it.
I may be able to conquer my fear but I will always be afraid of what cause the fear. Being afraid is what makes one "cautious", not conquering your fear in certain situations can cost you your life; fear makes one act in an irrational manner. I remember being in a damage control simulation where we were trying to shore up a bulkhead to keep the water from flooding the compartment. The scenario called for us to lose the battle and the compartment was taking on water, there was only one way out and that was through a scuttle that led to the compartment above us, which was flooded. Were we afraid? Yes, but we conquered our fear and escaped through the scuttle while water was pouring down upon us. So, through training we learned to be afraid of damage but to conquer our fear and accomplish the task at hand.

Funny you should mention this. I think climbing that ladder through that pouring water was about the worse "afraid" I've ever been. But I, like the rest of the group, didn't let our fear stop us from doing what we had to do to survive. As far as ISIS, we might be afraid that drastic measures have to be taken to eliminate this threat but we can't let fear stop us from doing what has to be done.

 

[leibowde84]

Seems that you do not understand what I was saying. ISIS is saying that they will bring the attacks to us anywhere anytime. It doesn't necessarily have to be a big metropolitan target, hence the reference to Roseburg and the media attention it drew. As I stated above, if they do attack a small community this basically shows that they will attack anywhere and no one is safe. Do you now understand. Psychology warfare can and does raises everyone's fear index...."are we next?"

I agree.

 

[savagewind]

I agree.

I have never thought, "are we next?".

 

[savagewind]

I think that YOU do not understand that Isis is politically motivated but what happened in Roseburg was (probably) not.

 

[savagewind]

Think chess
Why not please explain to dumb old me how what happen in Roseburg has anything to do with international politics.

 

[esmith]

I think that YOU do not understand that Isis is politically motivated but what happened in Roseburg was (probably) not.

Think chess
Why not please explain to dumb old me how what happen in Roseburg has anything to do with international politics.

I don't know how I can explain it any simpler, but I will try. Maybe one point at a time will be easier for you to comprehend.
1. Terrorist want to commit terrorist attacks, that is why they are called terrorist.
2. Terrorist want the world to know what they did
3. Media will cover any mass shootings anywhere anytime, large town, small town ....someone commits a mass shooting the media will come...hence reference to Roseburg
4. Terrorist attacks anywhere (well almost anywhere) will be covered by the media
5. Terrorist not dumb
6. Terrorist attack in large metropolitan city showing they can and will
7. Media will come to cover the story
8. Terrorist attack large town showing they can attack large town
9. Media will come to cover the story
10. Terrorist attack small town showing that the can attack anywhere they want
11. Media will come to cover the story
12 Metropolitan, large, or small...shows people you are not safe anywhere if the terrorist decide to attack. Terrorist makes their point

Reinforcement time
The media will go anywhere there is a story. Incident in Roseburg media present, incident in Boston media present incident in Paris media preset
Terrorist wants the world to know they will attack anywhere and they know the media will cover the story

 

[savagewind]

I don't know how I can explain it any simpler, but I will try. Maybe one point at a time will be easier for you to comprehend.
1. Terrorist want to commit terrorist attacks, that is why they are called terrorist.
2. Terrorist want the world to know what they did
3. Media will cover any mass shootings anywhere anytime, large town, small town ....someone commits a mass shooting the media will come...hence reference to Roseburg
4. Terrorist attacks anywhere (well almost anywhere) will be covered by the media
5. Terrorist not dumb
6. Terrorist attack in large metropolitan city showing they can and will
7. Media will come to cover the story
8. Terrorist attack large town showing they can attack large town
9. Media will come to cover the story
10. Terrorist attack small town showing that the can attack anywhere they want
11. Media will come to cover the story
12 Metropolitan, large, or small...shows people you are not safe anywhere if the terrorist decide to attack. Terrorist makes their point

Reinforcement time
The media will go anywhere there is a story. Incident in Roseburg media present, incident in Boston media present incident in Paris media preset
Terrorist wants the world to know they will attack anywhere and they know the media will cover the story

Maybe look up what political means?

 

[savagewind]

I don't know how I can explain it any simpler, but I will try.

Sometimes we make things too simple. Maybe that was my point.

Maybe one point at a time will be easier for you to comprehend.

I could say so many things.

5. Terrorist not dumb

I do not know what this means. Are you saying a terrorist isn't stupid? I disagree.

6. Terrorist attack in large metropolitan city showing they can and will

Will they now?

Reinforcement time

I apologize that I am a waste of time for you.

The media will go anywhere there is a story. Incident in Roseburg media present, incident in Boston media present incident in Paris media preset
Terrorist wants the world to know they will attack anywhere and they know the media will cover the story

But I am talking specifically about a possible organized group with their agenda. OK?

 

[savagewind]

I think that situations of mass killings in the USA by solitary psychopaths are unaccompanied by a plan other than to kill.
I think Isis is different. Is it not a group behaving as though they are a sovereignty?
Also, do you think the leaders of it are stupid?
Would a leader of Isis blow himself up, do you think? I think not.
The crew of extremists who actually do the work of killing are obeying someone. Aren't they?

Who do you think Chris Harper Mercer (of Roseburg) was obeying?

 

[esmith]

I give up savagewind, you have your mind made up and logic will not change it. Have a nice day.

 

[savagewind]

I give up savagewind, you have your mind made up and logic will not change it. Have a nice day.

Define politics:
noun

1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.

 

[savagewind]

I give up savagewind, you have your mind made up and logic will not change it. Have a nice day.

I hear you calling me stupid but please have a look at the thread category.