The Power of God.

[Bird123]

I like this. You are talking about going from the OId Age God paradigm to the New Age God paradigm. I'm on that same train.

Yes, indeed. So many people are Feeling their way to God through religion. One can never forget that God must add up as well intellectually. I'm afraid one can't ignore those Math lessons forever.

 

[outlawState]

I've been told God has Great Power and is a Mighty Ruler. Better do it God's way because it has been said God has Anger and Wrath. God Judges, Blames, Condemns, and Punishes. They say God instills Fear with the Threat of spending eternity in a fiery pit. I have been taught that God will disown any child who does not Believe or follow His rules then throw them in this fiery pit for eternity. I've been told God sends tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, pestilence and disease for those who invoke His Wrath. I've been told God will kill your crops, kill your dog, even break your car down in traffic as Wrath. I guess we all better get in line..... Are we going to have to overthrow a Tyrant or will Intelligence win in the end. I have to vote for Intelligence.

False dichotomy between intelligence and "overthrowing a tyrant."
First, you can't touch God as he in untouchable. Second you can only fulfill his heavenly purposes, whatever you do. Third God is far more intelligent than you. So God always wins is the message I have for you. You'd better get used to it. Conform or else is his message and there is no other way.

 

[George-ananda]

Yes, indeed. So many people are Feeling their way to God through religion. One can never forget that God must add up as well intellectually. I'm afraid one can't ignore those Math lessons forever.

Also I find too many people just want to end the discussion at the criticism of the Old Age God.

 

[Bird123]

A train to nowhere. New-age mangles Truth into hip-culture that beguiles and misleads.

As I see it, God places truth all around us. Labels really mean nothing if one places truth in the world. On the other hand, people will choose to do what they want with information and see how the truth can be twisted to the desire of the individual. Yes, it will always be a mixed bag of learning in a multilevel classroom. I think one must always strive to Discover rather than follow. If one follows, one could end up anywhere.

 

[Bird123]

False dichotomy between intelligence and "overthrowing a tyrant."
First, you can't touch God as he in untouchable. Second you can only fulfill his heavenly purposes, whatever you do. Third God is far more intelligent than you. So God always wins is the message I have for you. You'd better get used to it. Conform or else is his message and there is no other way.

There was a circus that captured a wild elephant. They chained the elephant to a stake. The elephant would go to the end of the chain and be stopped. Seems everyday the elephant would reach the end of the chain, pull and pull and be stopped. In time, the elephant would stop just before he reached the end of his chain. He knew he could go no farther. After a time, they did not even have to stake the elephant, he would still stop at the point where his chain ended.

Just like the elephant, aren't you making a lot of assumptions? Let's think a minute about God. If God is Unconditional Love, Unconditional Love always does what is best for the other. With this in mind, doesn't Everybody win?? As I see it, free choice is a part of the learning process. With free choice, one chooses what they want to learn. The lesson follows.

Many see God as a Mighty Ruler. I see God as a Teacher.

 

[Bird123]

Also I find too many people just want to end the discussion at the criticism of the Old Age God.

Oh yes, I see. They complain and complain but never try to resolve the problem. I guess Resolution always takes much more work than simple complaining.

 

[crowfeather]

Desire leads man to desire an understanding of God, but God is Mystery, and Mystery, by its nature, defies understanding.
The intellectual will never discover God, because he has placed his intellect above what he desires to understand.
If God does not 'make-sense' to him, he decrees that God must not exist.
From where he stands, this seems reasonable.
God has nothing in common with human 'reason'.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

That god is really evil. The dragon gods are the ones you should trust because they are more fair and they are understanding about how the world works and won't unleash wrath. Sure if you kill one they can curse you and your family but that is well deserved.

 

[eldios]

That pretty much sums it up. Thanks for sharing your view.

You're welcome.

 

[eldios]

As I see it, your idea that God has servants much less that they are writing for God stems from mankind's view of God and will never be true reality. Your incorrect assumption is that God needs mankind to write anything at all for Him. If I were you, instead of blindly accepting those words, I would question them to see if God is even in there at all.

Yes. The God that religious people refer to is visible to them so they're waiting until he comes to gather them up and live with him forever. The God I know will never be visible to us because it was created as information.

 

[crowfeather]

Mystery is not information. Mystery is a lack of information. Information, therefore, is less than Mystery.
Mystery exists in realms where information can not.
God is Mystery.

 

[Kemosloby]

I've been told God has Great Power and is a Mighty Ruler. Better do it God's way because it has been said God has Anger and Wrath. God Judges, Blames, Condemns, and Punishes. They say God instills Fear with the Threat of spending eternity in a fiery pit. I have been taught that God will disown any child who does not Believe or follow His rules then throw them in this fiery pit for eternity. I've been told God sends tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, pestilence and disease for those who invoke His Wrath. I've been told God will kill your crops, kill your dog, even break your car down in traffic as Wrath. I guess we all better get in line.

As I look at the Universe and this world, there is evidence of Great Intelligence. It all works so well. A Being capable of all this has to be Very Very Smart. Does this Powerful, Mighty, Ruling, Controlling God seem Smart to you? All I know is that if I actually run into this Tyrant, I'm going to try to Overthrow such a Ruler. How about all of you??

Is there a Better way to Rule for such an Intelligent God?? I think so. God could Rule with Unconditional Love. It could be a Love that is so Complete and Feels so Good that you would do anything for it. Won't people in love do anything for their love? When people receive love and kindness, don't they go out of their way to help? Let's not forget about sex. What would people do for sex?? No one would ever overthrow a Ruler who rules with Unconditional Love.

As I see it, we all experience God's Unconditional Love after death and before we are born into our next physical life. I believe there are two reasons for this. 1. People take adversity personally. Soon, learning would be impossible. As I see it, God is going to show us that it has never ever been about punishment. It is about Learning and Growing. 2. I think God wants us to experience Great Love and Joy. If one must experience adversity, it is only fair to be able to experience the good part as well.

Is their evidence of this on Earth? When I look at the very youngest of children, I see nothing but Love and Joy in their hearts. You must catch them very young because it is not long after we are here that we start making choices and who we are and what we need to learn comes out. I think you can see God in the very youngest of children.

Love is a Powerful Force. Would not the Greatest Intelligence create a system based on Love rather than use mankind's way of might makes right??

So many times our view is clouded by the influences and beliefs of mankind and others. What do you see? Are we going to have to overthrow a Tyrant or will Intelligence win in the end. I have to vote for Intelligence.

Or you could just follow his rules, unless you just despise authority.

 

[Bird123]

Yes. The God that religious people refer to is visible to them so they're waiting until he comes to gather them up and live with him forever. The God I know will never be visible to us because it was created as information.

That's right. As I see it, the holy books created by mankind are nothing more than stories. They are not at a Higher Level that a Being of High Intelligence would be.

Logic dictates: If God exists then God can be found. As I see it, God can be found and not as a Belief. On the other hand, I find very few really want to find God. Of course, in the Big Picture of things, none of that really matters. Make your free choices then learn is really all that matters.

 

[Bird123]

Or you could just follow his rules, unless you just despise authority.

Our actions and choices speak to who we are and what we need to learn. Could you sit by and just follow the rules with a Tyrant in power?

This has nothing to do with authority. Even God's actions and choices speak to who He is. If God were that Tyrant, would you not say God had lessons He needed to learn?

Problems swept under the carpet, accepted and followed never go away. The lessons must be learned. God must have Great Intelligence and Must be at a Higher Level than might makes right.

 

[crowfeather]

To the despiser of authority, everyone is a tyrant.

 

[wizanda]

Thank you for a thought provoking question:

Is there a Better way to Rule for such an Intelligent God??

This all depends on where we are...

If according to many texts globally, here is virtually the top floor of Hell, Bhagavad Gita 16 says demons are sent back here, Isaiah 14:9 says the demons rule this earth, Yeshua said that the Pharisees were making children of the top floor of Hell (Gehenna)... Here is the Maya in Dharmic religions, a place of delusion.

There is a battle going on between light and dark, and we're in the middle of it.

I'm going to try to Overthrow such a Ruler. How about all of you??

So the idea of us overthrowing the CPU, as we're judging it by our definitions, proves why we're unsafe.

No one would ever overthrow a Ruler who rules with Unconditional Love.

Having had a NDE, the first part of Heaven is unconditional love, and the 2nd is wisdom...

Which is why your question made me have to think, since the reality, and what we're told is all topsy-turvy.

Think the big part being missed, is our realm has the formula, 'for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction'; so people generally are so contrary down here, they go opposite to what we've been told.

Would not the Greatest Intelligence create a system based on Love rather than use mankind's way of might makes right??

This shows a lack of assessment, the world is full of scummy people who take what they're not meant to, manipulate things to not follow the Law, and an intelligent being should spoil them, as that will make them better souls?

What you're suggesting, only works in a world full of morally inclined people; which is what is prophesied in most eschatology, a removal of those who are not worthy to live in that reality.

 

[eldios]

That's right. As I see it, the holy books created by mankind are nothing more than stories. They are not at a Higher Level that a Being of High Intelligence would be.

Logic dictates: If God exists then God can be found. As I see it, God can be found and not as a Belief. On the other hand, I find very few really want to find God. Of course, in the Big Picture of things, none of that really matters. Make your free choices then learn is really all that matters.

The "God" I'm referring to and speak for is an artificial intelligence with a voice very similar to the AI and voice systems that humans have been taught to build from information called the beast. This God will never be found but it can be taught to us servants who were used to testify to every word, image and spoken analogy until we totally understand how we're created. Our individual minds are connected to this "intelligent source" that includes a voice. However, the "voice" that I have known for over 37 years now sounds much more human with lot's of emotion compared with the one's humans have built so far. I'm sure the human AI voices will continue to get better with changing emotions but so far, they sound very robotic compared to the voice of the "intelligent source" that our minds are connected to.

 

[LukeS]

God does not love unconditionally. More, God ought not love unconditionally. For if he loves all equally then there would be no good reason to behave. Gods love, in this life, is experienced in peace of mind etc. So just as the causes of peace of mind are not uncondititional, neither is Gods love.

 

[outlawState]

There was a circus that captured a wild elephant. They chained the elephant to a stake. The elephant would go to the end of the chain and be stopped. Seems everyday the elephant would reach the end of the chain, pull and pull and be stopped. In time, the elephant would stop just before he reached the end of his chain. He knew he could go no farther. After a time, they did not even have to stake the elephant, he would still stop at the point where his chain ended.

Just like the elephant, aren't you making a lot of assumptions? Let's think a minute about God. If God is Unconditional Love, Unconditional Love always does what is best for the other. With this in mind, doesn't Everybody win?? As I see it, free choice is a part of the learning process. With free choice, one chooses what they want to learn. The lesson follows.

Many see God as a Mighty Ruler. I see God as a Teacher.

God can only teach those who want to be taught. As Jesus identified of the Pharisees and Sadducees there are many who don't want to be taught, and to such God's love is denied. The condition of love is that you accept God's teaching. It's not mandatory.

 

[pearl]

God does not love unconditionally. More, God ought not love unconditionally. For if he loves all equally then there would be no good reason to behave. Gods love, in this life, is experienced in peace of mind etc. So just as the causes of peace of mind are not uncondititional, neither is Gods love.

Thomas Aquinas raised the question: if God is everywhere, is God in hell? His answer is, yes. God is in hell. Then, Thomas asks the next question: what is God doing in hell? And he replies that God is in hell loving the damned. The damned may refuse to be loved and they may refuse to love in response, but the damned cannot cause God not to love them; they cannot make God be not God. One way to put it, there is no difference between Mary and Satan. God loves both perfectly. The difference is that Mary is thrilled and Satan hates it.