That is nothing more than your opinion, and it's clearly wrong.Empty false claims from the Bible that can't be demonstrated to be true. Nothing of any moral substance in all of that. Condemnation from falsehood is all you got there.
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That is nothing more than your opinion, and it's clearly wrong.Empty false claims from the Bible that can't be demonstrated to be true. Nothing of any moral substance in all of that. Condemnation from falsehood is all you got there.
Empty false claims from the Bible that can't be demonstrated to be true. Nothing of any moral substance in all of that. Condemnation from falsehood is all you got there.
It's also my opinion (more or less) and that of millions of others, although I would have worded it differently:That is nothing more than your opinion, and it's clearly wrong.
Declaring something to be so does not make something true. The Bible is full of declarative claims that it doesn't back up with any kind of reasoning, proof, nor evidence.That is nothing more than your opinion, and it's clearly wrong.
"The Bible is full of declarative claims that it doesn't back up with any kind of reasoning, proof, nor evidence". => No kidding! <= One accepts what the Bible says by faith. That is the basis for the whole thing! Do you seriously not realize that?Declaring something to be so does not make something true. The Bible is full of declarative claims that it doesn't back up with any kind of reasoning, proof, nor evidence.
Anyone can claim to be all mighty judge, and juror over mankind's fate. That's a claim of absolute truth. So you need more than evidence. You need 100% positive proof these things are true. So what is your irrefutable reasoning in those declarations you mentioned?
Blind faith it is then. Then you are saying you really don't know. That's like jumping into a pool, eyes closed, hoping for water where there is none. Good luck with that!"The Bible is full of declarative claims that it doesn't back up with any kind of reasoning, proof, nor evidence". => No kidding! <= One accepts what the Bible says by faith. That is the basis for the whole thing! Do you seriously not realize that?
That is the exact opposite of your "100% positive proof".
Read this carefully (if you want to understand the fundamental principle of faith): "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen". Hebrews 11:1
"Reasoning proof" is the exact opposite. Until you understand that, there is no point in continuing the discussion.
Blind faith? LOL!Blind faith it is then. Then you are saying you really don't know. That's like jumping into a pool, eyes closed, hoping for water where there is none. Good luck with that!
Who's assuring and convicting? Zarahustra, Allah, Yahweh, your own mind, the Holy Spirit?Blind faith? LOL!
Read this again: Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen". Hebrews 11:1
Get it? Assurance and conviction. It's just the opposite of what you think.
Your analogy is stupid!
Clearly you are confused and lost. The problem probably lies because of your lack of understanding of "knowledge"Who's assuring and convicting? Zarahustra, Allah, Yahweh, your own mind, the Holy Spirit?
God is God because God says so. End of story? Sufficient?
People have hopes and assurances that are false. Convictions can be false as well.
You discard, reason, evidence, and proof necessities like those things are rubbish, and hopeless paths to knowledge.
We all realize that faith is unjustified belief (insufficiently evidenced) and doesn't become justified belief until sufficient supporting evidence is presented."The Bible is full of declarative claims that it doesn't back up with any kind of reasoning, proof, nor evidence". => No kidding! <= One accepts what the Bible says by faith. That is the basis for the whole thing! Do you seriously not realize that? That is the exact opposite of your "100% positive proof".
Why do you think that anybody here is having trouble with those ideas? Osgard, to whom you were replying there, doesn't seem to.Read this carefully (if you want to understand the fundamental principle of faith): "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen". Hebrews 11:1 "Reasoning proof" is the exact opposite. Until you understand that, there is no point in continuing the discussion.
I'd say that religion is no match for empiricism. Just look at how few useful ideas religion has generated and how many come from evidence properly understood. I would dare say that every useful idea one has such as how to fix a car or where to find good Italian food was learned through experience, and that none of the religious beliefs acquired by faith can be used for anything except perhaps psychological comforting if one can be comforted by such ideas. I can't, but also, I'm not uncomfortable being an atheist.You and your faithless theories are no match for God almighty!
Unless you're a Muslim, we should try to get together for a cup of molten brass when we get there.
The Quran speaks of those that are as Cattle.
Hell is connected to Cattle.
And We shall drive the sinners to Hell, like thirsty cattle driven down to water,- 19:86
Eat (for yourselves) and pasture your cattle: verily, in this are Signs for men endued with understanding. 20:54
Or thinkest thou that most of them listen or understand? They are only like cattle;- nay, they are worse astray in Path. 25:44
Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode. 47:12
Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning). 7:179
The Quran clearly knows the difference between Cattle, Goats, and Sheep.
The Bible speaks of the Cattle, Goats, and Sheep Judgements.
"And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats". Ezekiel 34:17
Cattle - Goats - Sheep
Its another three position layer which overlaps with what I said earlier.