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The Random, Meaningless Political post thread

Stevicus

Stevicus

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Wu Wei said:
Purchased a long time ago. I’d prefer selling it, but Mrs Wu. Wants to keep it.

Also, last I knew that did not apply Quebec province, which is where the place is
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That's the place where Savoir Faire is everywhere.

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Estro Felino

Estro Felino

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Stevicus said:
I would say that some of my early impressions of Italy were formed when I first saw this movie and the scenes in Sicily.


They're portrayed as very old world, traditional, and far more prudish than what one would typically see in America, even back in the 1940s when this was set. Apollonia had practically zero say in who she was going to marry, although she seemed to like Michael Corleone well enough.

Of course, the war obviously changed the dynamic. One thing we'd often hear in America is about how U.S. servicemen would come back from Europe and brag about their sexual exploits with the women in the various countries they were in. It also became a trope in many American war movies. Even in provincial, prudish America, they couldn't keep 'em down on the farm after they had seen Paris. Not anymore.

Progressive movements, such as women's liberation and the sexual revolution, seemed to run parallel to each other, but at different rates of speed in different cultures. I heard about looser standards on TV in some countries like Italy even back in the 1980s, whereas U.S. TV was still a bit more restricted (although still loosening up from what it had been in the 50s and early 60s).
There were also some differences in how Europeans and Americans viewed sex and/or violence on the screen. Americans seemed to be resistant to allowing sex on TV, but violence was okay. Europeans seemed more the opposite, with the sex being okay but the violence not okay. Swearing was also out of the question on American TV, which is why there are all the "bleeps."

It seems to create a perception in the American consciousness where violence and killing are okay, just as long as you don't cuss or think any impure thoughts while doing it.
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This TV series shows that Italian girls are not like Apollonia Vitelli any more. They just wanna have fun.

 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

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Ebionite said:
Nice guys are placaters. Good guys are not always nice. ;)
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Well...I guess in Europe there is another mentality...which is: geeks, nerds are good guys....so they are better than the popular guys.
Why do you think the Czech girl Nadia chooses Jim and Sherman...among so many cool guys? ;)



 
Ebionite

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Estro Felino said:
Why do you think the Czech girl Nadia chooses Jim and Sherman...among so many cool guys?
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Because that's what the writer thought would work for the script. I haven't watched the movie and I'm not from the U.S. so I can't say much more than that. Sorry. For the girls the first decision is usually between Mr Right & Mr Right Now.

In religion there's a connection between the bridegroom & bride and the watchman. The watchman is a symbol of vigilance and being observant, which naturally relates to the mind game between men and women.
 
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Estro Felino

Estro Felino

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Ebionite said:
Because that's what the writer thought would work for the script. I haven't watched the movie and I'm not from the U.S. so I can't say much more than that. Sorry. For the girls the first decision is usually between Mr Right & Mr Right Now.
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...I think that according to my experience, women dream of the Prince Charming.
And since unfortunately there are too many womanizers in my country, I believe that they do seek for the nerds and geeks.
Popular guys means troubles...and horns.*


* horns in my language means being cheated on.
 
Ebionite

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Estro Felino said:
...I think that according to my experience, women dream of the Prince Charming.
And since unfortunately there are too many womanizers in my country, I believe that they do seek for the nerds and geeks.
Popular guys means troubles...and horns.*


* horns in my language means being cheated on.
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AFAIK the idea of cheating originated in Rome. The Etruscans were big on equality of the sexes and that lead to monogamy. It's from the Etruscans that we get the word "person". Polygamy was the norm for Hebrew culture that the Christian Church drew from.

I guess nerds and geeks are more of a target for the girls since they do well in IT and that fills the provider role. In those roles they're typically betas (subordinate), though. I think girls naturally seek out the alphas (leaders) or the sigmas (independents). Alphas and sigmas do well in the protector role.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

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Ebionite said:
AFAIK the idea of cheating originated in Rome. The Etruscans were big on equality of the sexes and that lead to monogamy. It's from the Etruscans that we get the word "person". Polygamy was the norm for Hebrew culture that the Christian Church drew from.
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That's true. The Roman Civilization was also homophobic. Meaning that a man could have sex with a man, but only as the active part.
If he was the passive part, he was not considered a male any more, but a woman.
Julius Caesar was ridiculed and nicknamed queen, after returning from Bythinia. Gallias Caesar subegit, Nicomedes Caesarem. He had been sodomized by king Nicomedes IV.
The famous Nero had so many wives and lovers, both males and females. Always as the active part.
Ebionite said:
I guess nerds and geeks are more of a target for the girls since they do well in IT and that fills the provider role. In those roles they're typically betas (subordinate), though. I think girls naturally seek out the alphas (leaders) or the sigmas (independents).
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In the USA, that's true. They seek the alphas or the sigmas.
I can't speak for all of Europe, but what I see is that all women are different. If a woman is sweet, she will chase sweet men. And so on...
 
Ebionite

Ebionite

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Estro Felino said:
I can't speak for all of Europe, but what I see is that all women are different. If a woman is sweet, she will chase sweet men. And so on...
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There are some survival traits that are hardwired. The feminist movement acts as though they don't exist, which only leads to suffering for them. In a nutshell, a woman will always be testing her man or her potential partners for inner strength, since men have to be able to deal with psychological stress and well as physical. This is the "watchman" that I was talking about before in relation to religion.
 
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