Heyo
Veteran Member
Kind of special pleading, then. With vaccines, there are other people involved, namely, everyone you meat. To keep your argument consistent, you should also be for mandatory vaccination. Are you?
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The Real Reason Trump Won
- Thread starter The Hammer
- Start date
stvdv
Veteran Member
You totally missed my point
Augustus
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Was it a good plan? What better outcomes would it have produced in your opinion?
I have no idea what the plan was and didn’t pay much attention to Trump’s pandemic management.
There is an argument to be made that Sweden handled the pandemic best though, and they took a very different approach.
In general, even with hindsight, I don’t really know who handled the pandemic best as I don’t have the information to compare.
The WHO didn’t cover themselves with glory though, especially at first. So it’s not like there was a “follow the experts” correct approach that got all the big calls right and everyone could easily follow.
I'm not saying if it's good or bad, I'm saying it's the reason she lost and suggesting how she could of got more votes
1st Be change she should of challenged Joe Biden's policy more. She should of called for term limits or expanding the supreme court. She could of called for term limits on congress
2nd be more religious, Trump a definite sinner is constantly showing support of religion. Joe Biden talked of it when he ran and was shown going to church. I can't recall her ever talking about it She was all the good of us as a people. The US is still over 70 percent religious.
BrightShadow
Active Member
If you have to ask that question then you are not worth my time. However I will respond briefly.
Indoctrinated folks can't see what is junk and what is not junk because they believe in the junk.
Almost everything that came and continue to come from the "left" are lies and junk.
Do you watch any main stream lefty medias? Do you watch CNN, The view, any late night talk shows? Etc. etc.
Do you hear how Hillary, Kamala or Biden talk about Trump and his supporters?
Trump haters have been religiously calling Trump every name in the book. It is not name calling to you because you believe in it.
Biden sealed the deal with his junky comment. He called Trump supporters "garbage".
Yeah! That was - nail in the coffin!
Lefties are losing it! Actually they simply lost it!
I do watch both sides. I am watching you and your mentors here. I see how you cheer for them and everything they write. One big happy family of lefties!
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
We won't agree because I believe that human life begins very, very early, when the infant is a fetus.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
First of all, it's not hypocrisy on my part. I believe that pregnancy is a unique situation and I believe the unborn need and deserve our protection.
You left out "rapey", "vengeful", "ignorant", "power hungry",
"dictatorial", "narcissistic", "theocratic", "bigoted", "pompous",
"unreliable", "xenophobic", "paranoid", "fundamentalist Christian",
"sybaritic", "sociopathic", & "rapey".
He reminds me of a thug in Blazing Saddles.....
If this is true, you've yet to show any indication as to why.
I understand that you think that you feel justified denying the right to bodily autonomy to pregnant people.
There are other situations where people feel justified denying the right to bodily autonomy to people. Why should your exception be the only one?
I mean, even if it's just about "the unborn"... forced vaccinations and forced blood donation could help prevent a lot of miscarriages and make a lot more births viable.
BrightShadow
Active Member
Did you predict Trump was going to win?
I did!
Check my post on Nov 3rd...
@Subduction Zone, @Guitar's Cry & @blind K H supporters
Denser plate with thinner oceanic crust will slide beneath the less dense plate with thicker continental crust and the result will be a landslide victory for Trump.
Density matters! - Empty shells (inflated by the fake media) - means nothing!
'Subduction zones' (trouble spots - the battleground states) would be responsible for the overall landslide victory. Some will call it a 'disaster' and some will call it a 'phenomenon'.
Nothing you can really do about it except changing your name and moving to Canada (maybe you are already there). If so then not sure why you are worried about Trump. Oh! I see - 'tarriff'! I am sure Trump will be nice to Canada this time around! No worries!
Btw, I am not saying you are from Canada - but it is just a hunch! I could be wrong!
Any how if he wins - both will benefit from the victory! But...
If she is elected - the world will regret it!
Many more folks could die in the middle east and in Ukraine/Russia, China will have her by the b***s - I mean China will have upper hand!
National debt will rise like a rocket - it is already higher than 2024 gross GDP. It will be unsustainable! You need someone with guts to handle this crisis - Kamala & co. aren't it!
Wrong! Trump didn't call for Liz Cheney to be shot. Change your source of information; change your company or play the video I posted and understand the context for yourself.
-nuff said!
- I am not sure why there are so many Canadians rooting for Kamala - knowing she is incompetent - and that she has no experience - and that she has no guts to stand up to the 'establishment'.
Even if her heart is at the right place (which probably - is not) - but we just don't know for sure because no one can interview her properly. We know nothing about her at all! We know she did a poor job at the border.
We know she went to Munich Security Conference and and a few days later Putin went into Ukraine! Who did she speak with over there? What did she say? Why she didn't try to see Putin? You cannot put a price on the lives of folks who have already died! Biden cannot stop Bibi! How can Kamala stop anyone or anything?
BrightShadow
Active Member
Your perception is your reality BUT - it does not represent the truth.
So, bury your "math" in your backyard and let your "math" rest in peace. Forever and ever!
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't know anyone who's had a miscarriage because they weren't vaccinated or because they didn't have a forced blood donation. I doubt that you do either.
So Trump being placed roughly last as to his first term has no effect on whatever he does in this term - as to where he will be placed overall by the historians? You need to go back to school, mate.Your perception is your reality BUT - it does not represent the truth.
So, bury your "math" in your backyard and let your "math" rest in peace. Forever and ever!
Me predict this? Of course not, given the polls were supposedly so close, and I didn't count on enough of the American public being so foolish so as to vote in such a twerp - being conned by his childish rhetoric. I thought they might have had more sense but now I know they haven't.Did you predict Trump was going to win?
I did!
Check my post on Nov 3rd...
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Miscarriages can be caused by many types of infection.
Blood donation (though I probably should have said plasma) would be more for immediately after delivery. For some immediately life-threatening conditions - e.g. extreme jaundice - a newborn is administered intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG) to effectively replace all of the baby's "bad blood" that's making them sick.
To make enough IVIG to save one baby's life this way needs plasma from about 1,000 donors, apparently.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
I'm ambiguous about abortion. Before abortion was allowed women got abortions anyway, to bad effect under quacks. It may be more so that way now. The restrictions on abortion in many states are too high, and don't value the life and fertility of the mother when bringing the baby to term as a baby born alive is an impossibility in the first place. I don't like abortions when it is inconvenient to the lives of people, but trying to enforce that on people hasn't really been very effective. Fetuses from the beginning are human beings that should be allowed to live a full life. I would like people to not drink alcohol, but trying to enforce that under prohibition led to bad side effects. That is a similar situation.
It seems to me that ultimately the decisive reason for Trump's second election is the lack of political awareness of the American public.
Which may well be in significant part voluntary self-delusion, albeit enabled by twisted media channels and a very motivated disinformation campaign.
The MAGA cult and its peripherical allies and precursors such as the Tea Party, QANON, Alt-right, and several Christian and nationalist groups are motivated by a very deep desire to decree that facts don't matter all that much and that they are owed "what they deserve" even if the price involves selling their souls at a discount.
I guess I expected basic human decency and common sense to reassert themselves eventually and lead said groups to grow up and disperse into the irrelevance that they deserve, but apparently that was not to be.
Recent generations have been raised to expect to be "at least" as wealthy as their antecessors, but for various reasons that is not a reasonable expectation. MAGA and its ilk promise that it actually is a reasonable expectation if only there is "courage" to do "what has to be done".
In short, it is fascism coming into bloom by way of its traditional harbingers: nationalism and expectation of divine "guidance".
Which may well be in significant part voluntary self-delusion, albeit enabled by twisted media channels and a very motivated disinformation campaign.
The MAGA cult and its peripherical allies and precursors such as the Tea Party, QANON, Alt-right, and several Christian and nationalist groups are motivated by a very deep desire to decree that facts don't matter all that much and that they are owed "what they deserve" even if the price involves selling their souls at a discount.
I guess I expected basic human decency and common sense to reassert themselves eventually and lead said groups to grow up and disperse into the irrelevance that they deserve, but apparently that was not to be.
Recent generations have been raised to expect to be "at least" as wealthy as their antecessors, but for various reasons that is not a reasonable expectation. MAGA and its ilk promise that it actually is a reasonable expectation if only there is "courage" to do "what has to be done".
In short, it is fascism coming into bloom by way of its traditional harbingers: nationalism and expectation of divine "guidance".
The right to be Typhoid Mary (Covid Cathy?) is sacred to Magas.
If others die because one takes no precaution against infecting
them, this is acceptable because it's not as deliberate as is
performing an abortion. To them, the "right to life" is a slippery
concept....the fetus ranks above all, but public health is no concern.
Having heard of the global trend of voting out incumbants I'm not sure there's anything she could have done differently and won. In a rational America the biggest thing she had going for her was not being Trump. But America didn't vote with their brains, they reacted to the circumstances, most of it created by mediia and a lot of it false. I am convinced if Trump implements his ideas and the agendas there's going to be a reverse reaction in two years and then in four years.
There is no rational basis for anyone to have boted for Trump, yet he was elected by a significant margin. Social media is having more and more affects that were not predicted. And how does a society that is addicted to social media learn the discipline of using it? On planet Vulcan Trump would have gotten zero votes, because Vulcans would say it's illogical to vote for him. But in America? There's a serious deficiency of logical thinkers.
I'm not sure that would fix it either. When you have devout Christians ignoring his crimes and supporting him as if he's Jesus they are lost people who have serious religious and thinking flaws. There will be serious consequences to electing an idiot for president. We are seeing consequences already in corporations buying inventory, and the bond market pricing as if its expecting a recession. His cabinet is looking like the Star Wars cantina, just the worst freaks MAGA has to offer.
A lot of these conservatives rejected science when they heard about evolution, and how origin is not a literal interpretation of Genesis. To them the absurd makes sense, and with this twisted thinking they easily can justify any interpretation of Genesis over reason, facts, and science. We see in these discussions that no amount of expertise and knowledge offsets the emotions felt for a religious dogma. MAGA is brilliant in exploiting these non-thinkers and presening absurd dogma, fear, and anger. Looking at your transformation has been interesting, as it's gone the other way, accepting facts and data and making exceptionally rational and wise judgments.