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The Real Reason Trump Won

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
So, no answer despite your earlier statement that you answered?

If a woman wants an abortion, there's a huge chance that not getting one will harm her. Depression, suicide, poverty, loss of opportunity, and a million more things will land on her. The child, too, gets a wonderful life. Drunk poor mommy doesn't love it, in fact resents it's existence, so it's bound to grow up to be a wonderful member of society.

In the Freakanomics books, it was pointed out that the violent crime rate in the US began to spike in the 1980s. There was a genuine concern that the world was going to soon see essentially super-criminals. Remember all the apocalyptic movies in the 80s like The Warriors, and Escape from New York? They were spawned by that movement toward more and more criminals. And then, in the early 90s, the crime rate dropped way down in a very short amount of time. The reason? The unwanted, unloved children I posited above stopped being born because Roe vs. Wade gave moms who didn't want to be moms a way to get out. Horrifying damaged people who learned to hate from parents who didn't want them started to disappear, making society itself safer. Everyone, every single member of society, has a better world when abortion is available. The largest benefactor? The mom-who-ain't-a-mom-type. Why would anyone wish that kind of existence on anyone else?

So, as to my original point, forcing my mother to harm herself, regardless of the mechanism, is evil, plain and simple. A person who would doom this women to a life she doesn't want, and a child who will grow up poor, and more likely to fail at life than a child who is wanted, is a person who is acting on bad information.

If a woman, any woman, wants an abortion, she should have that option available to her, both for her own good, and the good of a child who's life will be brutishly difficult and come to no good.
I already gave my answer. Not doing so again, and certainly not under these conditions. And you don't know why the crime rate in the 1990s began dropping. Your hypothesis is full of holes. For instance, your hypothesis doesn't explain the falling crime rates in countries around the world during the same time period, which had no association with abortion or its measures.

I'm sure glad my mother, who was mentally ill, chose life for me instead of abortion.
 
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We Never Know

No Slack
Yeah, oil production UNDER Biden. It doesn't say presidents cause the production levels. As I said, the only thing a president can do is release oil from the reserves, which will only have a small impact on the cost of gas. There can be gas taxes adjusted to lower the consumer price, but production is largely on oil companies, demand, and global stability.
So its click bait. The title clearly says..
"Joe Biden Is Producing More Oil Than Donald Trump Did"
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Oh I agree but I am not going there.
I understand why you wouldn't, because it would highlight just how irrational and cruel your position is.

It's bad enough to want to deprive people of their rights to accomplish your goals, but depriving people of their rights isn't even necessary to accomplish your goal!

It's not a conflict between the "right to life" for fetuses and the right to bodily autonomy; it's a conflict between bodily autonomy and... what? You tell me.

I remember you saying something a while back about you being okay with measures to reduce unwanted pregnancies "as long as your taxes don't go up." Is money the thing on the other side of the balance for you?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's impossible to say exactly what Roe v. Wade's impact was.
No, fans of the Freakonomics podcast know that it is more than
just possible....the ruling reduced crime.
Extensive research & analysis by economists Donohue and Levitt
turned up an unexpected finding, ie, Roe v Wade resulted in a
reduction in crime about 2 decades after the decision.
(This made people from left & right really angry at them.)
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
So its click bait. The title clearly says..
"Joe Biden Is Producing More Oil Than Donald Trump Did"
So?

It's as if you really, really take it literally and believe that Joe Biden and Donny Trump are oil barrons and they are competing to be the biggest oil cat in the USA. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed that.

But in reality it is referring to oil companies producing oil in the USA via their own decision making, much of which reacts to global pressures.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So?

It's as if you really, really take it literally and believe that Joe Biden and Donny Trump are oil barrons and they are competing to be the biggest oil cat in the USA. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed that.

But in reality it is referring to oil companies producing oil in the USA via their own decision making, much of which reacts to global pressures.

Here is the deal sport.

They posted a link that says "Joe Biden Is Producing More Oil Than Donald Trump Did"

I replied with "Is this where I am supposed to say he is riding on what Trump started"

You bounce in harping about it wasn't Trump but never said anything about "it isn't Biden".

You wouldn't even admit that title was click bait and wrong because Biden isn't producing oil.

Your bias shows so bad and runs so deep its laughable.

So one more time... was that article title not only click bait but also wrong?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So?

It's as if you really, really take it literally and believe that Joe Biden and Donny Trump are oil barrons and they are competing to be the biggest oil cat in the USA. I wouldn't be surprised if you actually believed that.

But in reality it is referring to oil companies producing oil in the USA via their own decision making, much of which reacts to global pressures.

And to answer your other part. No one assumed or insinuated Trump or Biden are oil barons or oil drillers. Only an idiot would think that or get that out of it.

I will leave it at that.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Right wing media dominance.

https://newrepublic.com/maz/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-fox

"Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country. And they fed their audiences a diet of slanted and distorted information that made it possible for Trump to win."

What do you think? Legitimate analysis? Or liberal hogwash?
Not legitamate.

First, the pushed out Biden. Second, they mushed in Kamala with no real election. Thirst, there was no real separation or difference between Biden’s policies and Kamala’s policies. Last, people got tired of the extreme left views and the lies that were being given as truth IMV
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oil production was & is higher during Biden's term than
during Trump's. I don't think this is a good thing.
But it is what it is. He trumpets that he'll fix a problem that
isn't a problem. And the Magas lap it up without question.
 
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BrightShadow

Active Member
This is rude and demeaning to women, trans people and "lefties."
What I wrote is a masterpiece. All original... all true.;)

It is definitely NOT demeaning to women. Why did you think it was demeaning to women? Be honest.
It is not demeaning to 'trans' folks either.
It helped you stop calling them transgender women. Didn't it?:D
So what I wrote was powerful.

I have defended the true biological woman. I want their sport to thrive and not taken down to the grave by some biological men -shamelessly wanting to compete with them in their sports just because they feel they could have the upper hand and win a trophy/medal.

Some key points from my last post in regard to your misrepresentation of my comments...

With the progression of science - it seems - you could have as many genders as you like but leave the ones already defined from the beginning of time.
Go do surgeries and turn yourself into a half horse half human but have the decency to call yourself a 'Centaur'. Don't call yourself a woman and ruin it for the actual biological woman. Don't spoil their chance to have a fair competition in their own sports among each other.

Dems tried to re-define what a woman is. They went overboard!
Now swim to the shore and figure out another way to fool everyday Americans!
Your last attempt backfired. Trump won. Common sense prevailed (at least for not). I know you (the Dems) will try again.
:cool:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
What I wrote is a masterpiece. All original... all true.;)

It is definitely NOT demeaning to women. Why did you think it was demeaning to women? Be honest.
It is not demeaning to 'trans' folks either.
It helped you stop calling them transgender women. Didn't it?:D
So what I wrote was powerful.

I have defended the true biological woman. I want their sport to thrive and not taken down to the grave by some biological men -shamelessly wanting to compete with them in their sports just because they feel they could have the upper hand and win a trophy/medal.

Some key points from my last post in regard to your misrepresentation of my comments...

With the progression of science - it seems - you could have as many genders as you like but leave the ones already defined from the beginning of time.
Go do surgeries and turn yourself into a half horse half human but have the decency to call yourself a 'Centaur'. Don't call yourself a woman and ruin it for the actual biological woman. Don't spoil their chance to have a fair competition in their own sports among each other.

Dems tried to re-define what a woman is. They went overboard!
Now swim to the shore and figure out another way to fool everyday Americans!
Your last attempt backfired. Trump won. Common sense prevailed (at least for not). I know you (the Dems) will try again.
:cool:
So you just decided to double down on the rude and demeaning.
Weird flex, but you do you, boo.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Last, people got tired of the extreme left views and the lies that were being given as truth IMV

When to comes to the number of lies, Joe and Kamala are mere amateurs as compared to Trump. But then you mostly watch/read Fox doncha?

What lies did Biden supposedly say? And why is it that you diss someone who actually is a practicing Christian and tries to act like one versus Trump?
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
So you just decided to double down on the rude and demeaning.
Weird flex, but you do you, boo.

I could double down, triple down, even quadruple down!

I noticed that you only read superficially. Slow down - read properly before responding.

You never pointed out - why anything I wrote was demeaning to woman?

I didn't demean women or trans - I was only addressing those biological males who via body mutations and mutilations - try to become a woman. They use fancy terms such as "gender affirming medical care" (hormone therapy and surgery).

What they are doing is playing with God's work. If you don't believe in God - then I should say - they are playing with the nature.

Since, regardless of medical intervention - a person's chromosome remains the same - meaning - genetic makeup always remains a male - these folks are nothing but counterfeits. They are not real women.

Should we expand our counterfeiting laws and include attempted gender switching practices in it?;)
After all - they are not the real deal! Now, are they?

The buck must stop somewhere. Right?

Dam* those Dems for supporting such nonsense and trying to allow children everywhere go under the knife to fulfill their fantasies.

Dems are gems ( no they are NOT). Ok maybe they can be lignite (coal).:D
Is that the reason - Dems are against fossil fuel? Are they the lignite?

Yeah I could switch topics and start talking about fossil fuel but wherever I go - we will be condemned because of the Dems.:rolleyes:

The Dems are scamps - everything they do - gives us a cramp.
Notice the rhymes?

Btw, no one can nor should judge me because I speak the truth.
Boo back on you!
:cool:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I could double down, triple down, even quadruple down!

I noticed that you only read superficially. Slow down - read properly before responding.

You never pointed out - why anything I wrote was demeaning to woman?

I didn't demean women or trans - I was only addressing those biological males who via body mutations and mutilations - try to become a woman. They use fancy terms such as "gender affirming medical care" (hormone therapy and surgery).

What they are doing is playing with God's work. If you don't believe in God - then I should say - they are playing with the nature.

Since, regardless of medical intervention - a person's chromosome remains the same - meaning - genetic makeup always remains a male - these folks are nothing but counterfeits. They are not real women.

Should we expand our counterfeiting laws and include attempted gender switching practices in it?;)
After all - they are not the real deal! Now, are they?

The buck must stop somewhere. Right?

Dam* those Dems for supporting such nonsense and trying to allow children everywhere go under the knife to fulfill their fantasies.

Dems are gems ( no they are NOT). Ok maybe they can be lignite (coal).:D
Is that the reason - Dems are against fossil fuel? Are they the lignite?

Yeah I could switch topics and start talking about fossil fuel but wherever I go - we will be condemned because of the Dems.:rolleyes:

The Dems are scamps - everything they do - gives us a cramp.
Notice the rhymes?

Btw, no one can nor should judge me because I speak the truth.
Boo back on you!
:cool:
I see you've tripled down and decided to demean trans people now too.
You're really batting a thousand here.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
These media organizations thrive because they are have a gullible base that are easily attracted to their content. Their emotions are manipulated in ways that are common in sales and marketing. If we had a citizenry that was more educted and skilled at critical thinking they would not be attracted to this type of media. The right is opportunistic and they are massively successful at it.

I have seen examples of this media and I recognize it as trash and not worthy my time. I learn about what these media groups present by some RF members who repeat it. They are indifferent to being made aware that their sources aren't reputable. They don't care. Being informed is not an interest for them.
The Left media lies and carries the water for the DNC and swamp, to add cover to their mischief. This makes it easier for the Right wing media, to stay more with the facts and point out the lies. The Left will also go radio silent, when there is something they do not wish to show. They pretended the border was sealed, by avoiding showing any active border and then lying. The Right gets to show the facts, that are being omitted. The crooks are always up to some form of deception o intrigue, and FOX, can be the old fashion press.

The role of the press is to speak truth to power, with the Left corporate media carrying the water for power. This makes the job of FOX easy and allows them to stay closer to the classic role of the press; speaking truth to power, who will then try to lie their way out; pot calling the kettle black.

During the Russian Collusion Coup and hoax, Conservative media said the truth about Trump, that would eventually become reality. Fake news pushed the lies, that many thought was the truth, with the Right appearing to be lying, based on the quality of the Lefty con job.

The most pivotal person who turned the tide toward the Right leaning Press, was the late Rush Limbaugh. Up to Limbaugh, the DNC controlled the legacy media; TV and newspapers. Rush carved out his own little empire, with his daily 3 hour talk radio program. He would analyze the daily news and DNC and catch them red handed. The DNC hated Limbaugh and used law fare against him, even intimidating his sponsors.

His continued success resulted in many other Conservative voices, appearing, also using alternate media, like radio. This led to FOX news and Conservative TV programming. It was not until Rush died of cancer did the DNC go over overboard; 2021. They were no longer even pretending to be truthful; repetition, intimidation, cover up. The recent loss to Trump, has knocked out propaganda wing, who is slowly coming to term with the truth, while still fighting with their bad habits of the past.
 

BrightShadow

Active Member
I see you've tripled down and decided to demean trans people now too.
You're really batting a thousand here.
And you are not explaining why you think I am demeaning to women.

That fully informs me of your perspective.
It differs from mine, ie, a heathen with only opinions.

You don't have any prospective. You are indoctrinated into believing whatever you believe. I think you also have some personal agendas.
Calling me "heathen" shows your true colors.

You and your sister can be cheerleader for each other.

Have fun next Wednesday! Tomorrow is around the corner!



You both are dismissed.;)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
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