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The reasons of abortions: why women have abortions

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I'm only finding general groupings, no hard statistics, I just don't trust statistics from anti-abortion 'institutes'.

I am not pro-abortion, it should be a last resort but there are many valid reasons beyond the survey you posted.
I perfectly understood you but I was saying that, in my humble opinion, most unwanted pregnancies are due to these two factors:
1) women don't take the pill regularly, and lack of regularity causes ovulation. It reactivates the ovarian cycle.
2) they do take it regularly but US pharmaceuticals are not that effective, resulting in unintended pregnancy.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Should find ethnic demographic data, as well. The only places I see abortion services being advertised is in poorer inner city areas and I believe black women have the highest abortion rates. Really smacks of eugenics, honestly.

If true, considering that black people tend to be poorer, I can only imagine how much worse it would be if black women had very low abortion rates.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If true, considering that black people tend to be poorer, I can only imagine how much worse it would be if black women had very low abortion rates.
Honestly I didn't want this issue to be racialized.
I showed a video where an American nurse testifies that most women are between the 20s and the 30s and usually have a high education.
This thread is about sex and contraception.
Don't be embarrassed.
We all have sex.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
I perfectly understood you but I was saying that, in my humble opinion, most unwanted pregnancies are due to these two factors:
1) women don't take the pill regularly, and lack of regularity causes ovulation. It reactivates the ovarian cycle.
2) they do take it regularly but US pharmaceuticals are not that effective, resulting in unintended pregnancy.
No mention of men and their responsibility in not getting women pregnant.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
No mention of men and their responsibility in not getting women pregnant.
You're right but legally it's women who have the right to abortion. Not men.
They have the right to decide: having it or not.

And by the way...doing the opposite is wrong. As if women were not capable of controlling themselves.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There is a primary reason for abortions that no one is mentioning. It is profitable for the providers. They aren't doing charity. Follow the money.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
There is a primary reason for abortions that no one is mentioning. It is profitable for the providers. They aren't doing charity. Follow the money.
Bravo. You understood me.
I don't want those expensive abortion clinics to enrich themselves. Cashing in on women's pain.
That's why I advise birth control.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
An abortion is similar to sports medicine in that it allows women to quickly get back into the game. Like in sports, if an injury was to end your season, you will lose the benefits of the game. So a quick turnaround is necessary, to get back in the game. Pregnancy can last 9 months plus and this will take you out the game. That is lost play time.

For example, some women use sex and pregnacy to hook a man. If that trap does not work out, such as in inner cities, a sports medicine abortion, allows them to quickly get back in the game to set a new trap.

Because abortion is big business, for Lefty politicians to get in on the donation game, they need to help increase business, so they can get a commission; donation. This is done through social policies such as the Teachers Union and sex education. It can even be connected to diverting tax payer resources for a money laundering bonus; get a cut. Getting back into the game is a win-win situation in this business model. This is why the US leads and why the games are stressed ahead of a potential child, with a potential child sold as a liability; setback.

If you list the reasons women get abortion its is usually connected to the games they like to play; from careers, flirting, swinging, to setting man traps. Women get nervous if sports medicine expediency is not easily available. Men are not allowed to have a say because they might undermine the political games of the industry. Desperate women are easy to influence for fun and profit, so a monopoly is useful in terms of the business end.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
An abortion is similar to sports medicine in that is allows women to quickly get back in the game. Like in sports, if an injury was to end your season, you will lose the benefits of the game. So a quick turnaround is necessary, to get back in the game. Pregnancy can last 9 months plus and this will take you out the game. That is lost play time.
Weird analogy.
For example, some women use sex and pregnancy to hook a man. If that trap does not work out, such as in inner cities, a sports medicine abortion, allow them to get back in the game to set a new trap.
If men were more selective, they wouldn't fall for this trap. And they would know a woman better, before sleeping with her.
Some women are wicked manipulators.
Others are intellectuals who would never harm their own partner.
Because abortion is big business, for Lefty politicians to get in on the donation game, they need to help increase business, so they can get a commission; donation. This is done through social policies such as the Teachers Union and sex education. It can even be connected to diverting tax payer resources for a money laundering bonus; get a cut. Getting back into the game is a win-win situation in this business model. This is why the US leads and why the games are stressed ahead of a potential child, with a potential child sold as a liability; setback.
Exactly.
If you list the reasons women get abortion its is usually connected to the games they like to play; from careers, flirting, swinging, to setting man traps. Women get nervous if sports medicine expediency is not easily available. Men are not allowed to have a say because they might undermine the political games of the industry. Desperate women are easy to influence for fun and profit so a monopoly is useful in terms of the business end.
There is a way: choose a woman who takes the pill and would never want to become a mother.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There is a primary reason for abortions that no one is mentioning. It is profitable for the providers. They aren't doing charity. Follow the money.
Do you have any basis for this claim other
than the superficial fact that abortion
providers don't work for free?

All these anti-abortion clerics, politicians,
televangelists, etc make money from
trying to eliminate the right to abortion
because religious fundies buy it up.
And what of day care providers, teachers,
obstetricians, pediatricians, etc who make
money from babies & children, eh.

"Follow the money" is a meaningless cliche
if not backed up by analysis.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I want to investigate Americans' sex life to understand why the abortion rate is so big.
Pervert.

I view civil rights as things that don't need justification.
One needn't be smart or moral to enjoy free speech.
One needn't be innocent to enjoy due process under the law.
One needing an abortion needn't meet your Christian
or socialist standard of how women should behave.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Sweetheart... I just want to reduce the abortion rate, so those abortion clinics won't cash in on women's suffering and pain.
That's why I want to investigate on their use of contraception.

If you want to participate to this thread, be serious. Merci beaucoup. :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sweetheart... I just want to reduce the abortion rate, so those abortion clinics won't cash in on women's suffering and pain.
I want to prevent your ilk from reducing
abortions by taking away civil rights.
That's why I want to investigate on their use of contraception.
If you want to participate to this thread, be serious. Merci beaucoup. :)
Read & quote the whole post.

If someone doesn't use contraception, this
doesn't justify government's denying them
bodily autonomy.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Do you have any basis for this claim other
than the superficial fact that abortion
providers don't work for free?
It depends on how much they demand for an abortion.
If they demand thousands of dollars, yes, they are opportunists.
All these anti-abortion clerics, politicians,
televangelists, etc make money from
trying to eliminate the right to abortion
because religious fundies buy it up.
And what of day care providers, teachers,
obstetricians, pediatricians, etc who make
money from babies & children, eh.
I would have another idea: that the EU sends millions and millions of boxes of hormonal pills to the US. For free.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It depends on what they demand for an abortion.
If they demand thousands of dollars, yes, they are opportunists.
You're addressing some vague hypothetical.
As a socialist, I've seen that you dislike business.
But we are a capitalist country. People must
make either profit or a wage.
You can't argue that abortion is wrong simply
because service providers are compensated.

Abortion is a choice made by the pregnant woman.
Business doesn't coerce it.
The problem is governments, which have at various
times imposed sterilization, forced birth, & even
abortion. Governments should let people make
their own decisions about bodily autonomy.
I would have another idea: that the EU sends millions and millions of boxes of hormonal pills to the US. For free.
The EU should mind its own ******* business,
& address its swing towards authoritarianism,
the threat of war, racism, immigration disaster,
etc, etc.

It seems that I need a new signature.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Read & quote the whole post.
This thread is about Americans' sex life.
We are all adults here, and we all have sex so modesty is really unjustified.
If someone doesn't use contraception, this
doesn't justify government's denying them
bodily autonomy.

I would like American women (like her) to use such powerful energy to fight for women's right to have free contraceptives. Paid for by the government.
Prevention is better than the cure.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
This thread is about Americans' sex life.
We are all adults here, and we all have sex so modesty is really unjustified.
Irrelevant.
I would like American women (like her) to use such powerful energy to fight for women's right to have free contraceptives. Paid for by the government.
Prevention is better than the cure.
Perhaps because you believe abortion is wrong.
Many of us disagree.
I leave it up to the individuals to decide how
to run their own lives.
 
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