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The reasons why smoking should be banned

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
How about banning aspartame and GM foods like they do in Japan and Europe?

I think banning artificial Trans fats and margarins wouldn't be a bad idea.

In a similar way, I think banning the additives of cigs and making them all like American Spirit and Nat Sherman would be a step in the right direction.

I think this is a better solution, since it allows for more innovation and relies less on just putting a lid on a boiling pot and putting more weight on top of it as the pressure builds.

As a non-smoker, I like walking into restaurants and eating without breathing in toxins unintentionally. But as a wife of a cigarette smoker, I don't like the break in our social activities just so he can go outside to smoke after a good meal.

I also don't like the government passing yet another law telling us what we can and can't do with our own bodies. Rick is right. After the state stops demonizing cigarette smokers, who's next? Bakers? With as many folks, including myself, with a gluten intolerance, are artisans of our bread items going to be targeted for unleashing gluten on the masses?
 
how about those who do not drink and drive though?

anyway, banning alcohol may have some value but it's another topic.

so should we ban tobacco or not?

Not every death is from DUI. It is not another topic if you want to rid the world of harmful things you can not just pick curtain ones.

"The link between parents drinking alcohol and their children suffering abuse is unmistakable. More than 76 million people worldwide abuse alcohol, explains GreenFacts.org. Fourteen million of them live in the USA and 6.6 million American children grow up in alcoholic households, according to Alcohol-Information.com. More than a million children are victims of child abuse each year, and alcohol is a major factor in nine of every ten cases. Two in five abusive parents are alcoholics." http://www.livestrong.com/article/240851-alcohol-child-abuse/

Now try to link cigarettes to something like that.
 

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
I think this is a better solution, since it allows for more innovation and relies less on just putting a lid on a boiling pot and putting more weight on top of it as the pressure builds.

As a non-smoker, I like walking into restaurants and eating without breathing in toxins unintentionally. But as a wife of a cigarette smoker, I don't like the break in our social activities just so he can go outside to smoke after a good meal.

I also don't like the government passing yet another law telling us what we can and can't do with our own bodies. Rick is right. After the state stops demonizing cigarette smokers, who's next? Bakers? With as many folks, including myself, with a gluten intolerance, are artisans of our bread items going to be targeted for unleashing gluten on the masses?

I knew it! An evil gluten proselytizer! You're so sneaky about it too, always talking about trampolines and squishy hugs when those were just gateways to gluten. Intensely aromatic loaves fresh from the oven....that's pure evil genius.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Prohibition hasn't doesn't and will never solve issues.

Change must be organic and willful to take effect.

Cigs have lots of scientific proof about what it does to us...

Cannabis studies show a much different picture, and it's prohibition is based mostly on lies, imo.

Making sure people are able to make healthy, sound and informed decisions is our best hope to ending destructive behaviour.
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Instead of banning things, how about we trust people to be responsible adults and let them make their own decisions with regards to smoking, drinking, junk food, etc., and let nature take it's course? I smoke my pipe (tobacco) like once every two weeks, and I'm sick of having every person I see (some morbidly overweight) tell me it's bad for me. I know it's not healthy! Just let me enjoy my stroll or sit on the park bench in peace! I can't wait til I have my own house so I can sit down and read while enjoying the occasional good smoke....one of life's few pleasures.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Fatties telling you to stop smoking.... I love me a good hypocrite.

<----- I see one everyday, but I try to be humble about it ;)
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I've already dealt with this.

So to say again - just because something did not work so well, way back in 1920, does not mean it cannot be tried again in a different manner.

Sort of like today's war on drugs? Some of the most inevitably pointless and wasteful ventures started with the noblest intentions.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Fatties telling you to stop smoking.... I love me a good hypocrite.

<----- I see one everyday, but I try to be humble about it ;)

I'm a struggling wanna-be ex-smoker who disses fat folks all the time. Gotta be a hypocrite at something.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I'm a struggling wanna-be ex-smoker who disses fat folks all the time. Gotta be a hypocrite at something.

I stopped completely for 5 years, but when getting to encouraging my sister to quit I started having 2-3 a year with her to show her that it can be something you enjoy and not something that controls your life....

So I'm a smoker technically I guess, regarding cigs ;)


A good first step to one of the secrets of a happy life, I think, is know that we all are hypocrites about a least a few things ;)

Then, not taking ourselves too seriously to laugh about it a little... to laugh at ourselves,
but taking its effects serious enough to start analyzing how to recognize when you are being hypocritical and what your hypocritical about and and then how to better manage it in ourselves,
Afterwards,proceeding with LoLz in our hearts and a smile on our face :D
 
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Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I stopped completely for 5 years, but when getting to encouraging my sister to quit I started having 2-3 a year with her to show her that it can be something you enjoy and not something that controls your life....

So I'm a smoker technically I guess, regarding cigs ;)


A good first step to one of the secrets of a happy life, I think, is know that we all are hypocrites about a least a few things ;)

Then, not taking ourselves too seriously to laugh about it a little... to laugh at ourselves,
but taking its effects serious enough to start analyzing how to recognize when you are being hypocritical and what your hypocritical about and and then how to better manage it in ourselves,
Afterwards,proceeding with LoLz in our hearts and a smile on our face :D

I usually have a smile on my face and plenty of lolz all around. I refuse to take any of it too seriously.

If I stop riding my bicycle and working around the yard too much and quit smoking I know I'll pick up some extra luggage around the waist line. It would be funny. I'll be able to make fun of one more thing about myself.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I usually have a smile on my face and plenty of lolz all around. I refuse to take any of it too seriously.

If I stop riding my bicycle and working around the yard too much and quit smoking I know I'll pick up some extra luggage around the waist line. It would be funny. I'll be able to make fun of one more thing about myself.


Good to know there are a few out there chap.

Seems like two of those three might get easier if you cut one out, which ought to help with the extra cushion :D

How long have you smoked?
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't care abut cigarrettes, I smoke them in the meantime, but I wouldn't care either way if they were or were not banned, so I guess I can let you go with that.

Marijuana though, I believe we SHOULD have that legal, not only for smoking purposes but to make things such as paper, etc.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Good to know there are a few out there chap.

Seems like two of those three might get easier if you cut one out, which ought to help with the extra cushion :D

How long have you smoked?

42 and since 15 with bouts of no smoking and little smoking. Too long but oh well. My heaviest smoking was during college and when I started my current job about 13 years ago, about a pack or a little more a day.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
No kidding.... Sum :D

Then maybe we'll actually get some more Rastas around here who are able to talk about their spirituality too. :D
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
42 and since 15 with bouts of no smoking and little smoking. Too long but oh well. My heaviest smoking was during college and when I started my current job about 13 years ago, about a pack or a little more a day.


wow... that's a hard ship to jump off'a
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
wow... that's a hard ship to jump off'a

Yeah. I've been doing it longer than some here have been alive. It's ingrained into my body. I know it can be done. It will have to be done right and with a good plan. I don't want it to retire me. I'd like to retire one day and not be a smoker any longer.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I wonder if the OP has a plan or idea about hardcore smokers quiting?
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
Saying that some people smoking encourages other to smoke is an incredibly weak argument, in my mind. Does my being gay encourage others to be gay?

Yes, it could well do that.

I mean, I DID say, smoke in the privacy of your own home. I don't think you can say it's "encouraging" others to. There is no advertising, no publicity, and every packet has a massive warning on it - where exactly is the encouragement?
Children may want to emulate their fathers.
Anyway, main thing - you can't say some people smoking encourages others too - we could ba virtually anything based on that argument. Anything at all. Football encourages hooliganism - banned. Alcohol encourages binge-drinking - banned. Harry Potter encourages a belief in wicca and sorcery - banned. It's the use of that word "encourage" thats dangerous

All those forms of encouragement are indirect , and fairly vague at that.

Most people who watch football, drink or read HP don't turn into hooligans, bingers or Wiccans, but those who smoke all end up addicted.

So the issues are not the same here.
 
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