the religious Racial discrimination in Islam Teaching

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Discrimination between people is a policy unfair
Discrimination contradicts the Justice and Equality
And any religion which proclaims this policy is contrary to the religion of human rights as we know at the present time
According to the teachings of Islam and used racial discrimination and religious
And it is one of the most important teachings of Islam until the present era
Muslims use the word ( edematous )(الذمي) and translated by
Into English or other languages
And Mbda or the concept of disclosure and dhimmi is racial discrimination and religious
Eastern Christians have suffered from this unjust and racist Education
Because after the Islamic occupation in Iraq, Egypt , Syria, Lebanon
It became aboriginal citizens of dhimmis
This means that they have become second-class citizens
Because the imposition of tribute on the Jews and the Christians
It is one of the harshest racial discrimination and religious in Muslim countries
I present to you some of the positions of the meaning of this word and this education of the books of Muslims
May not be exported dhimmis in the councils, not to do them, not Bdathm peace, the surrendered shall respond to them by saying and you.
And they may not be congratulating them on their festivals, and are prevented from building churches, sale and temples, and show vintage and pig and alarm, and speak out Bektabhm, and Ramp on Muslim architecture, and so on.
And it improves honor them and treat them by word and deed please their Islam.
God said: {Allah does not forbid those who have neither faith nor drive you out of your homes, dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loves those (8)} [Mumtahinah / 8].
Fourth Ahl : They are those who are content to live and stability with us in a Muslim country , and they with Sharia and Islam ruler and lord , and then condemned for his Balzlh and children , can not be achieved them so as Ibn values and other scholars in the \ " provisions of the Ahl \" , but the pay full tribute by the hand , and liked the sovereignty of the ruling Muslim state , nor
The big question is if the Muslims were able to rule Britain
The natives become of dhimmis
????
Do you want Dear Westerners that you become slaves in your country ??
Survey your permission this racist education and identified the good of Islam

 

[psychoslice]

Anything but Muslims will be fine with me.

 

[JacobEzra.]

I don't think you understand racism and racial discrimination.

Hint; Arab Muslims discriminating against Arab Christians is not racial discrimination at all

 

[Smart_Guy]

About the tribute (Jizyah) for Thimmah people:

Do you base your words on actual events or do you just run your imagination based on your understanding to what you read about it?

Do you know that those who can't pay it, don't have to?

Do you know that it's taken only from healthy and physically capable men who can fight, yet if those men join the force they don't pay it? Every single other that falls under other categories don't pay it.

Do you know it exists to go along with the annual alms Muslims pay?

Do you know that it is so small that it is around 1 dinar a year per the person it applies to, and only for himself? Yes, I said "himself" because women don't pay it.

Do you know it exists to have non-Muslims equal to Muslims in supporting the country? Yet it was way much less than the annual alms Muslims pay!

Did you compare it to the taxes payed in the West at all? The taxes that take from the poor more effectively than the rich, which is the complete other way around in Islam?

Do Muslim countries these days ask for it from non-Muslims? (someone please advise)

Do you know that at the times these tributes (Jizyah) existed, there was what was called the Monetary House of Muslims (rough translation), used to support those in need, that it included supporting non-Muslims equally?

Do you know that Muslims, if in charge, are obliged to defend non-Muslims? Thimmah means under protection, in case you do not know.

Does this Jizyah and Thimmah thing exist these days anyways?

 

[Jumi]

Did you compare it to the taxes payed in the West at all? The taxes that take from the poor more than the rich, which is the complete other way around in Islam?

In my country as in many Western countries taxation is actually progressive. The more you earn the more you pay percent-wise.

List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[oldbadger]

Discrimination between people is a policy unfair
Discrimination contradicts the Justice and Equality
And any religion which proclaims this policy is contrary to the religion of human rights as we know at the present time
According to the teachings of Islam and used racial discrimination and religious
And it is one of the most important teachings of Islam until the present era
Muslims use the word ( edematous )(الذمي) and translated by
Into English or other languages
And Mbda or the concept of disclosure and dhimmi is racial discrimination and religious
Eastern Christians have suffered from this unjust and racist Education
Because after the Islamic occupation in Iraq, Egypt , Syria, Lebanon
It became aboriginal citizens of dhimmis
This means that they have become second-class citizens
Because the imposition of tribute on the Jews and the Christians
It is one of the harshest racial discrimination and religious in Muslim countries
I present to you some of the positions of the meaning of this word and this education of the books of Muslims
May not be exported dhimmis in the councils, not to do them, not Bdathm peace, the surrendered shall respond to them by saying and you.
And they may not be congratulating them on their festivals, and are prevented from building churches, sale and temples, and show vintage and pig and alarm, and speak out Bektabhm, and Ramp on Muslim architecture, and so on.
And it improves honor them and treat them by word and deed please their Islam.
God said: {Allah does not forbid those who have neither faith nor drive you out of your homes, dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loves those (8)} [Mumtahinah / 8].
Fourth Ahl : They are those who are content to live and stability with us in a Muslim country , and they with Sharia and Islam ruler and lord , and then condemned for his Balzlh and children , can not be achieved them so as Ibn values and other scholars in the \ " provisions of the Ahl \" , but the pay full tribute by the hand , and liked the sovereignty of the ruling Muslim state , nor
The big question is if the Muslims were able to rule Britain
The natives become of dhimmis
????
Do you want Dear Westerners that you become slaves in your country ??
Survey your permission this racist education and identified the good of Islam

Hello Mahasn............ again!

Look.......... we have a multi-cultural society here with a massive mixture of race, colour, creed, religion and national-origin and we simply get bored with silly individuals who want to whip up any hatred or fear within one group ....for another.

For instance, if some freaked out fanatic started shouting hatred about a particular group in my local cafe, we'd just ask the proprietor to tell him to sod-off. We'd even help the proprietor to eject him if absolutely necessary. These maniacs can spoil a decent breakfast, you know.

The fact that we don't, won't, shan't put with extremists and terrorists doesn't extend to picking on whole groups of people, you know.

Where do you live?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

The kaafir in the muslim land paid far less than a muslim had to pay. Zakaat is more than Jizyah. The riches must pay for the poor, thats called Zakaat. Now should all riches be mad and say: why do i have to pay for the poor????
Also if the disbeliever(able to serve in the army) pays Jizyah, he doesnt have to be part of the army, his safety is sought after.



Jizyah is levied only on males capable of performing military services. Any one who is not fit for military services is exempted from it. Consequently the following are exempted from paying Jizyah:

• Women
• Minors
• The aged people
• Those who were out of work or were chronically sick or crippled.
• Lunatics
• Monks
• Any disabled person whether he has mental or physical disability.
• Financially incapable persons
• If a non-Muslim rendered an important service to the country, he is exempted from paying the Jizyah for the life time. During the caliphate of Umar Ibn El-Khattab, the second righteous caliph, may Allah be pleased with him, a non-Muslim Egyptian laid before the Islamic government the project of cleaning and re-digging the ancient canal named, Nahr Amir al-Muminin, from Cairo down to the red sea which would facilitate the transportation of food stuff from Egypt to Medina, the capital. Umar, may Allah be leased with him, exempted the man from paying the Jizyah throughout his life.

Why must male adult non Muslims pay the Jizyah:
The reasons behind the Jizyah are:
1- It is a financial substitute for military service and it is levied only on every non Muslim fit for combat. A non-Muslim is never asked to fight with the Islamic army against his will so he pays the Jizyah as a compensation for not performing the military service. It is also a contribution to the expenses of the state defense and protection similar to the now called defense tax.


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It is illogical not to ask jizyah from a healthy kaafir person able to serve in the army but doesnt want(also he is not forced to serve). So he has choice: to serve in the army, or to pay the tax.

 

[Smart_Guy]

In my country as in many Western countries taxation is actually progressive. The more you earn the more you pay percent-wise.

List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's good

I keep seeing Americans complain about it tho on my FB, including Sunstone

In my country, only commercial firms are asked for a tax to support the country which is actually the Islamic alms. Other people are not asked for it at all, and they are left for their own consciousness to pay it to the poor.

I might have added that phrase to the question based on the complaint I heard from the Americans I know. Myhaps I should have left the first part of the question only.

Thank you for the heads up

 

[Jumi]

Well I'm not American and don't know their system that well. For us, we have a social security safety net for poor, refugees, elderly and incapable people. Education is free up to master's degree with basic necessities provided, so people can be poor but their children have some equality in opportunity.

The US system isn't the way we have it. We have very few homeless for example. Even drug addicts and such are cared for by the government.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Anything but Muslims will be fine with me.

I'm sorry I'm Muslim

 

[JacobEzra.]

Well I'm not American and don't know their system that well. For us, we have a social security safety net for poor, refugees, elderly and incapable people. Education is free up to master's degree with basic necessities provided, so people can be poor but their children have some equality in opportunity.

The US system isn't the way we have it. We have very few homeless for example. Even drug addicts and such are cared for by the government.

I....wish

 

[Jumi]

I....wish

There's certainly some work for you guys. I think us small countries have it easier.

 

[JacobEzra.]

There's certainly some work for you guys. I think us small countries have it easier.

"Some work" is an understatement. Half the country denies clinate change and evolution. The working class is losing rights so quickly, and unless you want a lifelong debt, college is way out of the question for many youth.

Our corporations and elite control our country and really, there is no hope.

 

[Smart_Guy]

There's certainly some work for you guys. I think us small countries have it easier.

For give me if I seem to be imposing; are you intentionally keeping your country unknown?
No pressure in me wanting to know, I'd understand

 

[JacobEzra.]

For give me if I seem to be imposing; are you intentionally keeping your country unknown?
No pressure in me wanting to know, I'd understand

I want to know too. Either some European country, or Qatar

 

[JacobEzra.]

Well either Qatar or Kuwait. I forget which one but one of them have what he described

 

[gsa]

I don't think you understand racism and racial discrimination.

Hint; Arab Muslims discriminating against Arab Christians is not racial discrimination at all

No, it is not. But that is not really material; caste discrimination in India can be just as bad as any form of racial discrimination. It seems apparent that sectarian discrimination in the Middle East can be just as bad or worse than what was experienced under racial apartheid.

 

[JacobEzra.]

No, it is not. But that is not really material; caste discrimination in India can be just as bad as any form of racial discrimination. It seems apparent that sectarian discrimination in the Middle East can be just as bad or worse than what was experienced under racial apartheid.

Oppression is oppression. But doesn't mean you can just label anything simply anything you want.

I'd say the dhimmi system seem fair ideally, but I'd rather have a society where no one gets any kind of extra tax. The biggest problem with it in my opinion, is that it kind of makes religious minorities, if even permitted, second class citizens.

 

[JacobEzra.]

Im not really down with any type of society that is divided between religion or class.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Oppression is oppression. But doesn't mean you can just label anything simply anything you want.

I'd say the dhimmi system seem fair ideally, but I'd rather have a society where no one gets any kind of extra tax. The biggest problem with it in my opinion, is that it kind of makes religious minorities, if even permitted, second class citizens.

I agree.

But I personally would call it "different class citizens", if I had to, instead of second. I say that because the tribute payed by non-Muslims is way much less both restrictive and in amount. True one could see "being different" as discrimination, but I think the general idea of seeing different (being different some times is a virtue) is not a problem, and the problem is to cause harm because of it is. I mean, all countries these days do make different classes of citizens based on let's say age, wealth and status, and some of those differences are really needed. We can't let a 5-year-old drive a real car on a highway, for example.

However, there is a very important point here. This Dhimmi and Tribute thing was put as a regulation to manage social life for the Muslim countries. Now with all the advanced social inventions and development, I see it is completely not needed and I personally don't even recommend it. Times change and people change.

Just my thoughts and I don't mean any disrespect with it.

By the way, where is @mahasn ebn sawresho ?