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The Situation in Egypt

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The New York Times is reporting that Mubarak has left Cairo, and the military is in control of the country.
 

kai

ragamuffin
the BBC says Mubarak is in Sharm el-Sheikh theres going to be another presidential announcement soon.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Its was just announced that Mubarak has left the rule, the military has control now. Omar Suleiman declared this.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
The army statement was that Mubarak has resigned and Suleiman is now in charge. Constitutional reforms and a free, fair election have been promised. The state of emergency will be lifted when the strikes and protests have ended and the protesters will not be prosecuted. That's all very positive, but I don't believe any of it with Suleiman in charge. Remember "Egypt is not ready for democracy" according to him.
 

kai

ragamuffin
The army statement was that Mubarak has resigned and Suleiman is now in charge. Constitutional reforms and a free, fair election have been promised. The state of emergency will be lifted when the strikes and protests have ended and the protesters will not be prosecuted. That's all very positive, but I don't believe any of it with Suleiman in charge. Remember "Egypt is not ready for democracy" according to him.


hate to pee on the bonfire, but it just doesnt feel right, hope i am wrong
 

Bismillah

Submit
The army statement was that Mubarak has resigned and Suleiman is now in charge. Constitutional reforms and a free, fair election have been promised. The state of emergency will be lifted when the strikes and protests have ended and the protesters will not be prosecuted. That's all very positive, but I don't believe any of it with Suleiman in charge. Remember "Egypt is not ready for democracy" according to him.
I've read articles Suleiman was also stripped of his powers along with Mubarak.
 

kai

ragamuffin
I still have serious misgivings about this. My guess is that it is a ruse to clear the streets.


me too , i have never seen so much celebrating over a military coup, but hey let them party its their night ,theres time for questions tommorrow
 

Bismillah

Submit
Vice President Suleiman — who appears to have lost his post as well in the military takeover — appeared grim as he delivered the short announcement.
Mubarak resigns, hands power to military - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com

Not sure about the veracity of the snippets that I have read because according to Al-Jazeera
General Omar Suleiman, vice president and former intelligence chief, is among the key retired or serving military officers on the council.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/201121185311711502.html

Though I also know the Parliament has lost its authority as well.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
me too , i have never seen so much celebrating over a military coup, but hey let them party its their night ,theres time for questions tommorrow
I know. I cannot imagine jumping up and down in jubilation if the Canadian Military took over Canada. It was be a true WTF moment, for sure.

In all seriousness, the military kept Mubarak in power all these years, why on Earth would people think that their taking control would be a good thing? :areyoucra

The people of Egypt have to understand that any group that moves in to fill the void, does so at the express pleasure of the military. (Here I am not talking about the interim period, but rather, after the September elections.)
 
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Alceste

Vagabond
I know. I cannot imagine jumping up and down in jubilation if the Canadian Military took over Canada. It was be a true WTF moment, for sure.

In all seriousness, the military kept Mubarak in power all these years, why on Earth would people think that their taking control would be a good thing? :areyoucra

Actually the bulk of the repression, torture, intimidation and harassment was carried out by state security and police. The army in Egypt is widely perceived to be neutral. They may be celebrating the coup but they're still burning police stations.
 

Bismillah

Submit
I know. I cannot imagine jumping up and down in jubilation if the Canadian Military took over Canada. It was be a true WTF moment, for sure.
Canada has not been ruled under an autocratic tyrant for the past thirty years and the celebration is of the elections not the transitory government.

In all seriousness, the military kept Mubarak in power all these years, why on Earth would people think that their taking control would be a good thing?
The military has largely been a third party content with and at times blossoming under Mubarak's rule. That said, it is important that the military in the end has sided with the protesters.

The people of Egypt have to understand that any group that moves in to fill the void, does so at the express pleasure of the military. (Here I am not talking about the interim period, but rather, after the September elections.)
Quite the opposite has been affirmed by these protests. If anything the military has come to recognize and respect the power of the protesters and the hold they have over Egypt.
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
The Army is neutral. We won't deny that it had to be bit biased to its supreme council leader, but after all, it will have to support the people.

The Army won't benefit from ruling the country, in contrary, I believe this delay was all to postpone this decision that we surely know the Army does not favour.

The Army insisted in the previous days that it's waiting for a more peaceful exit, and that the military interferring should be the last playing card; which we played at the end.

The Army could have taken control from day 1, and this gives a sense of honesty.

The Army is widely respected in Egypt, and it will settle down for the demands of the people, because this honorable image is too important to them.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Further to the above, if the government in Canada had been corrupt for thirty years and using the police force, CSIS and the RCMP to stamp out dissent with torture and murder, I expect we too might come to believe only the military is tough enough to clean things up.
 
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