The stupidity is unreal

[Subduction Zone]

Antiabortion people tend to base their arguments on a false narrative. Over 90% of abortions occur by the end of the first trimester. Yet they rely on images from late term abortions to try to play on human emotion. Late term abortions are very rarely elective. They are expensive and rare and almost always done for strong medical reasons and not for birth control. They are abortions that would probably occur even if abortions were made illegal.

Crowder's argument is far worse than the liberal ladies, though they both use arbitrary points. To be consistent Crowder would then have to respect all life, not just human since he lowered the bar so far. He is far more of a hypocrite that she is. He may believe in a soul, but if he wants to use that as a basis for a law he needs to be able to prove that a soul exists and we all know that he cannot do that.

 

[Earthtank]

If that's the best summary you can give why should I bother wasting my time to watch it? Doesn't seem like it really inspires anything worthwhile by that.

umm you are welcome for me saving you the time?

 

[Kenny]

Oh, by definition it can be classified as a parasite, no argument here, "an organism that lives on or in a host organism and gets its food from or at the expense of its host." It depends 100% upon host for survival. But I am of the opinion that a person does not have a soul until around the time they start forming solid memories (so 3-ish.). No one has a right to use someone's body medically as they see fit, and that includes offspring.

I think someone who calls their child a "parasite" has a thinking problem. A 3 year old child lives on the "host organism" - their parents, gets their food from them at the expense of its host. It depends 100% on the host for survival.

Since you base your position on an "opinion", I would prefer to err on the side of life.

They way I look at it, if one thinks that your child is expendable for convenience sake and personal freedom, that same child will apply that standard to you when you are older.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think someone who calls their child a "parasite" has a thinking problem. A 3 year old child lives on the "host organism" - their parents, gets their food from them at the expense of its host. It depends 100% on the host for survival.

Since you base your position on an "opinion", I would prefer to err on the side of life.

They way I look at it, if one thinks that your child is expendable for convenience sake and personal freedom, that same child will apply that standard to you when you are older.

It is fine if you err " on the side of life" when it comes to your own. But something stronger is needed if you want to change the current legal.standard.

 

[Kenny]

It is fine if you err " on the side of life" when it comes to your own. But something stronger is needed if you want to change the current legal.standard.

Unless, of course, it is changed again. Then, hopefully, you don't "err"

 

[Subduction Zone]

Unless, of course, it is changed again. Then, hopefully, you don't "err"

I will use rational instead of irrational arguments to support what I believe to be the best policy.

I doubt if it will change since there really does not appear to be any proper argument against a woman's right to choose.

 

[Kenny]

I will use rational instead of irrational arguments to support what I believe to be the best policy.

I doubt if it will change since there really does not appear to be any proper argument against a woman's right to choose.

Not arguing that point nor do I think it was a point in the OP. You have the right to "choose" to murder too and then commit suicide.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not arguing that point nor do I think it was a point in the OP. You have the right to "choose" to murder too and then commit suicide.

Quite the non sequitur there.

 

[Secret Chief]

The stupidity of this lady is truly absurd. Also, this is why I hate people like her because they make me agree with people I hate like Crowder lol. Anyone agree with her?

3 mins and 50 seconds

Never heard of him.
Isn't this just two people having a difference of opinion?

 

[Earthtank]

I think someone who calls their child a "parasite" has a thinking problem

 

[Earthtank]

Never heard of him.
Isn't this just two people having a difference of opinion?

Yes but the point of the video was the logic and rational of each opinion.

 

[Secret Chief]

Yes but the point of the video was the logic and rational of each opinion.

Hers being lacking? Having read a little about the man, I'm none too lined up with the logic and rationale of homophobia, racism and "destroying veganism."

 

[The Hammer]

I think someone who calls their child a "parasite" has a thinking problem. A 3 year old child lives on the "host organism" - their parents, gets their food from them at the expense of its host. It depends 100% on the host for survival.

Since you base your position on an "opinion", I would prefer to err on the side of life.

They way I look at it, if one thinks that your child is expendable for convenience sake and personal freedom, that same child will apply that standard to you when you are older.

A three year old can also be given to another host (parent), if need be, whereas a fetus can't be scraped and put elsewhere (it would die). So, basically, you can "abort" your toddler, by utilizing the foster care system (although this isn't something I'd condone personally).

Once the fetus becomes viable as an organism that can survive outside of the mother's womb (without medical intervention, barring disease), it becomes a different argument altogether.

So your toddler argument doesn't hold water in that regard.

 

[The Hammer]

It is fine if you err " on the side of life" when it comes to your own. But something stronger is needed if you want to change the current legal.standard.

Basically, this.

 

[The Hammer]

Not arguing that point nor do I think it was a point in the OP. You have the right to "choose" to murder too and then commit suicide.

You do have those rights, to choose that. And there are spiritual repercussions for it too, sometimes legal. But the choice is still there.

 

[Kenny]

A three year old can also be given to another host (parent), if need be, whereas a fetus can't be scraped and put elsewhere (it would die). So, basically, you can "abort" your toddler, by utilizing the foster care system (although this isn't something I'd condone personally).

Once the fetus becomes viable as an organism that can survive outside of the mother's womb (without medical intervention, barring disease), it becomes a different argument altogether.

So your toddler argument doesn't hold water in that regard.

No... you can taketh 1 and1/2 pound baby out of the womb and give it to the hospital doctors and nurses (a new host parent) and they will hook it up to feeding tubes and it will survive.


So... your postulate is a no go.

 

[Kenny]

You do have those rights, to choose that. And there are spiritual repercussions for it too, sometimes legal. But the choice is still there.

Yes!!! There is still a choice. The choice doesn't mean it is right... but it is a choice.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No... you can taketh 1 and1/2 pound baby out of the womb and give it to the hospital doctors and nurses (a new host parent) and they will hook it up to feeding tubes and it will survive.


So... your postulate is a no go.

Actually that is quite impossible.

 

[The Hammer]

No... you can taketh 1 and1/2 pound baby out of the womb and give it to the hospital doctors and nurses (a new host parent) and they will hook it up to feeding tubes and it will survive.


So... your postulate is a no go.

I stated without medical intervention friend.

Edit: a child is not viable outside of the mother's womb until around 6-7 months gestation. This is why most people disagree with late term abortions (3rd trimester), outside of emergencies.

"Doctors now consider 22 weeks the earliest gestational age when a baby is "viable," or able to survive outside the womb. But this is still extremely premature, and a baby born at this age will need a great deal of medical attention. Even if he survives, the risk of permanent disability is very high."

 

[The Hammer]

Yes!!! There is still a choice. The choice doesn't mean it is right... but it is a choice.

We are allowed to let others make choices we view as wrong, without interference.