The stupidity is unreal

[The Hammer]

Sorry, when your error is made clear and you persist in making that error you take away the ability to claim "twisting". If you had owned up to your error I would have changed my claim appropriately. But since you have not it is clear that you still want to stuff a one and a half month baby up a ladies hoo hah.

He was calling the hospital the babies new host parent.....

Edit: no stuffing required.

 

[Subduction Zone]

He was calling the hospital the babies new host parent.....

I know what he meant, but that is not what he wrote. A fetus is not a baby.

 

[Kenny]

I have no idea what you mean by this. Unless you are telling us that you enjoy this sort of activity:

Okay this is weird, my tablet will not link the definition correctly.

Look it up in iceskating lingo.

And reread :#61 and no twisting please

 

[The Hammer]

I know what he meant, but that is not what he wrote. A fetus is not a baby.

True, enough. That's also why I mentioned not requiring medical intervention for the fetus/baby, in my follow up with him .

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look it up in iceskating lingo.

And reread :#61 and no twisting please

Sorry you have no grounds for complaint. You screwed up and did not own up to your error.

 

[Kenny]

Sorry you have no grounds for complaint. You screwed up and did not own up to your error.

LOL... you now have two people saying that you were wrong... but still you insist. And then you say it is me to own up?

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL... you now have two people saying that you were wrong... but still you insist. And then you say it is me to own up?

No, there is only you. And please, when you screwed up you do not get to use a face palm. I knew what you meant to say, but it was so much more fun to quote you based upon what you actually said. I took your post literally, just as creationists make the error of reading the Bible literally. Though to be fair the authors of the Bible may have believed the myths that they wrote.

 

[Kenny]

No, there is only you. And please, when you screwed up you do not get to use a face palm

Toe Pick

I knew what you meant to say, but it was so much more fun to quote you based upon what you actually said.

Now, let me translate this. "I knew what you said but twisted it to say who I think you meant to say and wanted you to say... because I have so much more fun by twisting what is said". I told you I would catch you doing it.

I took your post literally, just as creationists make the error of reading the Bible literally. Though to be fair the authors of the Bible may have believed the myths that they wrote.

The is a change of subject.... would you like to literally open a different thread?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Toe Pick



Now, let me translate this. "I knew what you said but twisted it to say who I think you meant to say and wanted you to say... because I have so much more fun by twisting what is said". I told you I would catch you doing it.



The is a change of subject.... would you like to literally open a different thread?

Nope, you screwed up. You know it. I know it. Everyone else knows it. You are now just complaining because what you said was really stupid when you stop to think about it.

Try again.

Here is a hint, try to be honest in your responses. Appealing to emotions by using incorrect and emotionally burdened terms is not honest.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I find this whole discussion irrelevant. I don't care when these people think a life begins. All I care about is when a fetus is old enough to experience suffering if aborted, and before that time, who gets to make the decision that an abortion will occur - the potential mother or the the church using the force of the state to compel its values on her against her will. Once you answer those questions, the abortion rights discussion is over for me.

Personally, I feel that any first term abortion is as cruelty free as cracking open and scrambling an egg. This is the same standard I would apply to methods of raising and slaughtering animals. The fact that the fetus is human entitles it to no more consideration than a lamb or chicken. Failure to elevate humanity above the other beasts such as comparing a human fetus to a chicken fetus will offend the religious as well, but their beliefs and standards are not mine, and I consider their outrage manufactured, since it is found almost exclusively with those that have been conditioned by religion. Natural outrage is across the board. When a man begging for his life is killed on the street by a cop with a knee on his neck, the world is outraged, not just the religious. They didn't get their opinion from sermons.

"Life begins at conception"
"Then you object to killing live chicken embryos?"
"No, only human life counts, because humans are special in God's eye and have souls."
"If I believed that, I might agree with you."

 

[Subduction Zone]

Look it up in iceskating lingo.

And reread :#61 and no twisting please

Nope, unless yoiu m

I find this whole discussion irrelevant. I don't care when these people think a life begins. All I care about is when a fetus is old enough to experience suffering if aborted, and before that time, who gets to make the decision that an abortion will occur - the potential mother or the the church using the force of the state to compel its values on her against her will. Once you answer those questions, the abortion rights discussion is over for me.

Personally, I feel that any first term abortion is as cruelty free as cracking open and scrambling an egg. This is the same standard I would apply to methods of raising and slaughtering animals. The fact that the fetus is human entitles it to no more consideration than a lamb or chicken. Failure to elevate humanity above the other beasts such as comparing a human fetus to a chicken fetus will offend the religious as well, but their beliefs and standards are not mine, and I consider their outrage manufactured, since it is found almost exclusively with those that have been conditioned by religion. Natural outrage is across the board. When a man begging for his life is killed on the street by a cop with a knee on his neck, the world is outraged, not just the religious. They didn't get their opinion from sermons.

"Life begins at conception"
"Then you object to killing live chicken embryos?"
"No, only human life counts, because humans are special in God's eye and have souls."
"If I believed that, I might agree with you."

I think that you meant "first trimester abortion". And I agree. If abortions are readily available later term abortions drop to very low levels. And there always will be a need for some later term abortions. Very few women have them on a whim. They are almost always medically necessary.

And antiabortion people do not really care about fetuses in my eyes since one of their strategies is to make abortions more difficult to obtains thus raising the number of later term abortions. There strategy appears to be often one of trying to make them incrementally more difficult to get.