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The Teen Obesity Problem in America."

psychoslice

Veteran Member
If you are anorexic you put a strain on the hospital system.
If you are obsessive about what you eat to the point of intestinal disease you put a strain on the hospital system. I know this happened to someone.
If you exercise to the point of joint damage, you put a strain on the hospital system.
If you didn't know, anorexia is a mental illness, with one in every hundred, the same percentage as schizophrenia, of course mental illness can affect people in different ways, but the biggest majority of over weight people isn't caused by metal illness, do your reading.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If you didn't know, anorexia is a mental illness, with one in every hundred, the same percentage as schizophrenia, of course mental illness can affect people in different ways, but the biggest majority of over weight people isn't caused by metal illness, do your reading.
I think you are right that obesity isn't caused by metal illness. :D

 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
No, I eat properly, I also take anti-psychotics which can caused you to put on a lot of weight, if I didn't take care of my weight I would be a big fat psychotic psychoslice lol.
Me too, but some people do not know the same care for health as we do. To believe that all people know the same as you do is sophomoric.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Me too, but some people do not know the same care for health as we do. To believe that all people know the same as you do is sophomoric.
Yes I agree, but lets face it, you would have to be living under a rock not to know that eating the wrong foods can detrimental to their health, you see it everywhere, I really do think we are becoming more and more dumber.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If your grossly over weight, you put a strain on the hospital system, such as diabetes, and heart disease, plus many more diseases. If you want to stay that way then pay for your own medical help, in that way it doesn't matter.
That's still no reason they should feel ashamed of themselves. And if you're so concerned about this strain, then don't tear overweight people down, but help them to feel good enough about themselves to make positive changes. Shame and other negative feelings, so much far more often than not, leads to viscous cycles and feedback loops that make things worse and worse.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
That's still no reason they should feel ashamed of themselves. And if you're so concerned about this strain, then don't tear overweight people down, but help them to feel good enough about themselves to make positive changes. Shame and other negative feelings, so much far more often than not, leads to viscous cycles and feedback loops that make things worse and worse.
That just hasn't worked, they really need a kick up the backside to kick start them, these people end up having children and the children in many cases end up just like them, to me this is child abuse.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That just hasn't worked
It hasn't been tried. And, often times, the objection come from those who want to demonize for what should be, and often is, considered a health issue. Now, consider men are much more stubborn when it comes to going to the doctor, and men are more likely than women to die from a terminal illness, often because when they finally did go to the doctor it was just too late. Consider the stigma against seeking help for psychological issues that keeps people away from therapists and psychiatrists?
Now, if someone is obese, and they are buying into this "they should feel ashamed of themselves" nonsense, do you think they are likely or less likely to get help with? And, yes, people do often need help. Help with learning about diet and nutrition, exercises that help them meet their goals, and any unique challenges they may be facing.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
That just hasn't worked, they really need a kick up the backside to kick start them, these people end up having children and the children in many cases end up just like them, to me this is child abuse.
You're being a hypocrite. You're mentally ill and you know people use those same arguments against people with mental illness. You need to stop it.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
It hasn't been tried. And, often times, the objection come from those who want to demonize for what should be, and often is, considered a health issue. Now, consider men are much more stubborn when it comes to going to the doctor, and men are more likely than women to die from a terminal illness, often because when they finally did go to the doctor it was just too late. Consider the stigma against seeking help for psychological issues that keeps people away from therapists and psychiatrists?
Now, if someone is obese, and they are buying into this "they should feel ashamed of themselves" nonsense, do you think they are likely or less likely to get help with? And, yes, people do often need help. Help with learning about diet and nutrition, exercises that help them meet their goals, and any unique challenges they may be facing.
Yes help is what they need, but they have to make that start, they have to stop feeling sorry for themselves, and get that help, again you would be pretty ignorant of not knowing what to eat, its not rocket science is it ?.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
You're being a hypocrite. You're mentally ill and you know people use those same arguments against people with mental illness. You need to stop it.
But the difference with me is that I do get help, I don't blame others, I take responsibility for myself, I'm sick of hearing people who don't take responsibly, and all they do is blame everyone else, we are becoming an age of dumb bells.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
But the difference with me is that I do get help, I don't blame others, I take responsibility for myself, I'm sick of hearing people who don't take responsibly, and all they do is blame everyone else, we are becoming an age of dumb bells.
And here you are, blaming everyone else for all the problems in the world. :rolleyes:
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
“A sign of wisdom and maturity is when you come to terms with the realization that your decisions cause your rewards and consequences. You are responsible for your life, and your ultimate success depends on the choices you make.”
Denis Waitley
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes help is what they need, but they have to make that start, they have to stop feeling sorry for themselves, and get that help
How are they supposed to feel motivated to get help or improve themselves if they are supposed to feel ashamed of themselves?
again you would be pretty ignorant of not knowing what to eat, its not rocket science is it ?.
Many times it's not what you should eat, but what you can afford to eat.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Now come on, you know very well I haven't said that, you are angry at me, ask yourself why ?.
I'm annoyed with you because of your attitude in this thread. You have many problems of your own and you're in here acting all high and mighty and tearing people down. You should know better. I'm sure you know what kind of nasty stuff people say and do to the mentally ill. Have some respect for others.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
How are they supposed to feel motivated to get help or improve themselves if they are supposed to feel ashamed of themselves?

Many times it's not what you should eat, but what you can afford to eat.
My god, the excuses that you keep coming up with is ridiculous, buying take away's is much more costly than eating a decent meal.
 
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