The Ten Commandments movie

[Subduction Zone]

That is secular history sir, similar to man being here for way longer than recorded Bible history. It did not rain prior to the flood, and the canopy of water that was released was a canopy that green-housed the entire earth. Seasons came with the opening of the atmosphere, and that is either true or false.

Frozen animals with fresh vegetation have been found in the last century seems to support our understanding on that.

No, it is science and it is far more reliable than anything you appear to have.

And please, support your claims with valid sources. Yes, frozen animals have been found in the Arctic. I do not know what you mean by "with fresh vegetation". Remember, creationist sources are not scientific. Real sources must be used.

 

[capumetu]

No, it is science and it is far more reliable than anything you appear to have.

And please, support your claims with valid sources. Yes, frozen animals have been found in the Arctic. I do not know what you mean by "with fresh vegetation". Remember, creationist sources are not scientific. Real sources must be used.

What we each say at this time is simply our understanding sir. Time will reveal the existence of God and if His word is correct.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What we each say at this time is simply our understanding sir. Time will reveal the existence of God and if His word is correct.

I have reliable evidence for my claims. You have a book with countless contradictions.

 

[capumetu]

I have reliable evidence for my claims. You have a book with countless contradictions.

There you have it sir, your truths, are not my truths, and only time will reveal which if either one of us are correct.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There you have it sir, your truths, are not my truths, and only time will reveal which if either one of us are correct.

No, we can test our beliefs right now. Fundamentalists tend to live in fear. They are afraid to properly test their beliefs.

 

[Muffled]

Our cable went out a couple of days ago so my husband went looking for movies and pulled the movie The Ten Commandments (1956) off the bookcase, which is one of his favorite movies. We have seen the movie many times but it has been years since I watched it.

I soon realized that I am not the same person I was when I last watched it because I cried through practically the entire movie. I know I have said that I am not religiously inclined and that I don’t like God very much but after watching this movie I realized that is not really the case.

I never read the Torah or the Old Testament, only bits and pieces of it, but now I am inspired to read it all, as soon as I have time. I also want to say that I now believe that Judaism laid the foundation for the religions that came later – Christianity, Islam, and the Baha'i Faith.

I have a whole new appreciation for Moses and the Jewish people and Judaism after watching this movie, so I guess it was a good thing our cable went out.

If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood? Call me naive, but I believe that those miracles could have happened by the power of God.

I believe Holly wood extrapolates a bit. For instance The Bible just says that God hardened the heart of Pharaoh but the movie has him so tied to his beliefs in his gods that the miracles of God don't change his mind.

 

[Muffled]

Good film, but not as good as the book by all accounts but can't really compare because ive only read the bible.

My parents had a vhs player (remember those) it was amongst their sparse collection of tapes so I say it a few times as a teenager. It is also on TV in the UK every few years, around easter time for some reason.

I believe at Easter it also tends to be Passover for Jews.

 

[Muffled]

I watched it from the same perspective as
you might for a movie about some ancient
Oriental god-king myth.

Scenes like the guy jumping up on
the sacred ststue to direct this group
to go here, or that to go there- no way.

That "slaves" would have so much wealth
to take along? Things like that kinda messed with my willing suspension of disbelief.

But of course, its just a story, with no
(Zero) evidence of any sort to indicate its true.
(Ron Wyatt and his chariots notwithstanding!)

I was not much of a student of Christianity
as a kid in HK where the religion is a small
minority, alien and weird).

The impression I got of that God was
NOT very favourable!

He sends death and misery to countless
Innocent people (excuse me ma'am, but
like, I'm an angel, God sent me, so I will
have to trouble you for that baby you are hiding,
I will just be a moment chopping him up)

Drought, locusts etc while not even
allowing Pharoah to change his mind?

Drowning all those soldiers wasn't
necessary either. What kind of people
make up a story like that, what kind of
'god" is such a psycho?

I cannot see enjoying anything in that
movie, it left me feeling kind of ill and
utterly revolted.

I believe I can recommend the Gods of Egypt movie. It borders on Sci-Fi a lot like the Thor movies.

 

[ChristineM]

I believe at Easter it also tends to be Passover for Jews.

Usually

 

[Trailblazer]

I am sorry I called you sir in my last post maam. If the Kingdom is here now, Jehovah failed miserably. Nope, may that never be so.

I did not say that the Kingdom was here yet, I said it had been ushered in in 1844. Since humans are going to build the Kingdom of God on earth, it is going to take a long time.

The Kingdom of God on earth will be built by humans who are following the blueprint instructions Baha'u'llah laid out for us to follow. The Kingdom of God is a new world order. We are in the process of building that new world order, but it will not be built overnight. It will take a long time because the old world order has to be torn down before the new world order can be built up. The process of tearing down and building up are going on simultaneously right now. Just turn on your television news. It's all there.

“Beseech ye the one true God to grant that all men may be graciously assisted to fulfil that which is acceptable in Our sight. Soon will the present-day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead. Verily, thy Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 7

 

[URAVIP2ME]

It is necessary for those of Muslim and Christian faiths to go to Jewish temples and learn the roots of their own religions.
Go, with love in your heart, not to get angry if their versions or interpretations of events differ from your own.

Christian roots go back to father Abraham and notice to whom the promised 'seed' (Genesis 3:15) would be through: Genesis 21:12 "Isaac".
This is why Christians know the promised 'seed' (Jesus) would come only through son Isaac - Romans 9:7; Hebrews 11:18

 

[Trailblazer]

Christian roots go back to father Abraham and notice to whom the promised 'seed' (Genesis 3:15) would be through: Genesis 21:12 "Isaac".
This is why Christians know the promised 'seed' (Jesus) would come only through son Isaac - Romans 9:7; Hebrews 11:18

Jesus was the promised seed who came through Issac, as you can see on this genealogy chart:

Genealogy of The Báb and Bahá'u'lláh

However, Jesus did not see his seed and His days were not prolonged, so there is no way Isaiah 53:10 can be about Jesus.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Jesus was the promised seed who came through Issac, as you can see on this genealogy chart:
Genealogy of The Báb and Bahá'u'lláh
However, Jesus did not see his seed and His days were not prolonged, so there is no way Isaiah 53:10 can be about Jesus.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

I find Isaiah 53:10 corresponds with : Leviticus 16:11; Hebrews 7:26-27; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15; Isaiah 9:7; 1 Timothy 6:16; Colossians 1:19-20

To me Jesus did see his ' seed ' and his days were prolonged because his God 'resurrected' the dead Jesus. Did Not leave Jesus dead.
His resurrection fulfilled Hebrews 9:24; Daniel 7:13, and Zechariah 9:9 that Jesus is bringing salvation. No resurrection would mean No salvation.
At first Jesus comes humbly to suffer and die, however after his God resurrects the dead Jesus, Jesus has heavenly glory and to return.
So, Jesus is the ' him' of Isaiah 53:10.
One title for Jesus is ' eternal father ' and the word father means ' life giver ' so man's resurrection life will be prolonged / be long.
Though man's earthly resurrection still future (Acts of the Apostles 24:15) it is as good as if already done. A done deal guaranteed.

 

[Trailblazer]

To me Jesus did see his ' seed ' and his days were prolonged because his God 'resurrected' the dead Jesus. Did Not leave Jesus dead.
His resurrection fulfilled Hebrews 9:24; Daniel 7:13, and Zechariah 9:9 that Jesus is bringing salvation. No resurrection would mean No salvation.
At first Jesus comes humbly to suffer and die, however after his God resurrects the dead Jesus, Jesus has heavenly glory and to return.
So, Jesus is the ' him' of Isaiah 53:10.
One title for Jesus is ' eternal father ' and the word father means ' life giver ' so man's resurrection life will be prolonged / be long.
Though man's earthly resurrection still future (Acts of the Apostles 24:15) it is as good as if already done. A done deal guaranteed.

As I always say to Christians, you can interpret Bible verses in many ways, and you can try to make verses mean what you want them to mean in order to support what you want to believe.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

Within the context of that verse, seed means offspring, and since Jesus had no offspring, that verse cannot be about Jesus. Moreover, prolonging one's days means someone who lives to be old. You cannot say that because Jesus was resurrected (even if He had been) that the days of Jesus were prolonged. This is what I call "trying to make the verse fit when it does not fit." That is like trying to put on a pair of shoes that do not fit.

I believe that Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah who would come in the end times/latter days, not about Jesus.
Christians try to make all the OT prophecies be about Jesus, but clearly thye were not all about Jesus, although some of them were, and that is the main reason Jews do not accept Jesus as their Messiah.

I believe that Baha'u'llah was the Messiah who appeared in the end times/latter days.

"Bahá’u’lláh did see his ‘seed’. He wrote a special document called the Book of the Covenant, in which he appointed his eldest son to be the Centre of his Faith after his own passing. This very event was also foretold in the prophecies of the Psalms that proclaim:“Also I will make him my first-born higher than the kings of the earth … and my covenant shall stand fast with him.” (Psalms 89:27, 28) The ‘first-born’ son of Bahá’u’lláh, was named ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, which means ‘the servant of Bahá’(‘u’lláh). Bahá’u’lláh appointed him as his own successor in his Will and Testament. He called ‘Abdu’l-Baháthe Centre of his Covenant.

Bahá’u’lláh’s days were prolonged. He was born in 1817 and passed away in the Holy Land in 1892. In the last years of his life, Bahá’u’lláh was released from his prison cell. He came out of the prison-city of ‘Akká and walked on the sides of Mount Carmel. His followers came from afar to be with him, and to surround him with their love, fulfilling the words of the prayer of David spoken within a cave: “Bring my soul out of prison, that I may praise thy name: the righteous shall compass me about; for thou shalt deal bountifully with me.” (Psalms 142:7)"
Thief in the Night, pp. 157-159

 

[Quagmire]

Our cable went out a couple of days ago so my husband went looking for movies and pulled the movie The Ten Commandments (1956) off the bookcase, which is one of his favorite movies. We have seen the movie many times but it has been years since I watched it.

I soon realized that I am not the same person I was when I last watched it because I cried through practically the entire movie. I know I have said that I am not religiously inclined and that I don’t like God very much but after watching this movie I realized that is not really the case.

I never read the Torah or the Old Testament, only bits and pieces of it, but now I am inspired to read it all, as soon as I have time. I also want to say that I now believe that Judaism laid the foundation for the religions that came later – Christianity, Islam, and the Baha'i Faith.

I have a whole new appreciation for Moses and the Jewish people and Judaism after watching this movie, so I guess it was a good thing our cable went out.

If anyone of the Jewish faith or anyone else wants to weigh in on how accurately the movie depicts the Jewish history I would be very happy to hear from them. How much of the movie was just Hollywood? Call me naive, but I believe that those miracles could have happened by the power of God.

It's a classic. Great special effects for its time. But a lot of it is, as you asked, just Hollywood. You should be able to spot some of the inconsistencies once you read Exodus ( Mrs. Pharaoh was in love with Moses? how did I miss that part?)

Cecil B Demille was (I don't think many people would disagree) the best at what he did for his time ( direct epics), but he was out to entertain, not evangelize.

 

[Quagmire]

@Trailblazer Here's another Cecil B DeMille biblical epic you might like:
Samson and Delilah - Google Search

This is one of my favorites. I was surprised to see what a low rating it was getting.

 

[Audie]

I believe I can recommend the Gods of Egypt movie. It borders on Sci-Fi a lot like the Thor movies.

That's no recommendation at all.

 

[capumetu]

No, we can test our beliefs right now. Fundamentalists tend to live in fear. They are afraid to properly test their beliefs.

For right now, the Kingdom is actually gathering citizens Isa 2:2-4 One can look at these citizens and literally think how the world would be if everyone was one of them. But there are many things yet to be fulfilled.

 

[capumetu]

I believe at Easter it also tends to be Passover for Jews.

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We live in the age of information, simply google easter. You will find that easter is a pagan goddess of fertility, and many who claim to be christian come together annually to celebrate her in the name of Christ.

Passover occurs a tad bit earlier, on Nisan 14 on which Jesus the passover lamb was sacrificed. Each year millions gather on that night to: (Luke 22:19) . . .Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”

This year it occurs on March 27 at sundown.

 

[capumetu]

I did not say that the Kingdom was here yet, I said it had been ushered in in 1844. Since humans are going to build the Kingdom of God on earth, it is going to take a long time.

The Kingdom of God on earth will be built by humans who are following the blueprint instructions Baha'u'llah laid out for us to follow. The Kingdom of God is a new world order. We are in the process of building that new world order, but it will not be built overnight. It will take a long time because the old world order has to be torn down before the new world order can be built up. The process of tearing down and building up are going on simultaneously right now. Just turn on your television news. It's all there.

“Beseech ye the one true God to grant that all men may be graciously assisted to fulfil that which is acceptable in Our sight. Soon will the present-day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead. Verily, thy Lord speaketh the truth, and is the Knower of things unseen.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 7

We teach Jesus became King in 1914, and the heavens has been cleansed Rev 12:7-9 establishing the Kingdom in heaven, but the earth moved into the last days, and like you stated is yet to be established here at this time.

The Kingdom will come when Jesus and his powerful angels return to remove the wicked from here, thus establishing the earthly part of the Kingdom of God.