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The Theory of Evolution is supported by the evidence.

Autodidact

Autodidact

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Danmac said:
Science constantly makes discoveries that previous generations would have called wacko if such ideas were suggested. Like going to the moon. In concluding that there is no God are atheists making the same mistake? How can you be certain in either case?
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I may lose my patience completely. How many times have I asked you to take your obsession with atheism to another thread. It is not relevant to this one, which is about the scientific evidence for the theory of evolution, a subject which has absolutely nothing to do with atheism. I'm beginning to lose interest in figuring out whether you're unable to grasp this concept, or have so little regard for the truth that you don't care. What you're doing is extremely rude, and is the kind of garbage that turns reasonable people away from Christianity. Please stop. If you have nothing to say on the subject of evidence and evolution, kindly get out of the thread. Thank you.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Danmac said:
If I were to agree that God guided evolution, why am I unreasonable for believing that evolution is an orchard and not a tree?
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Because the evidence does not support that hypothesis. Remember when you said that you accept the scientific method? Well, if you apply it to the evidence, you find out that it turns out to be a tree.

Of course, if you can't get over your obsession with atheism long enough to even glance at the evidence, you never get to realize that.

Which I guess is your goal.
 
fantome profane

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
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Danmac said:
Science constantly makes discoveries that previous generations would have called wacko if such ideas were suggested. Like going to the moon. In concluding that there is no God are atheists making the same mistake? How can you be certain in either case?
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I ask a second time.

Can you point to a post where Autodidact “uses science to say there is no God”?
 
Danmac

Danmac

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Autodidact said:
By accepting and studying science. Wow, are you really this hard to communicate with? Science says nothing about the existence of God. We can all agree, for the purpose of this thread, that God created all things. We're not discussing whether God created all species; we're assuming that. We're not discussing that. We're trying to figure out how. HOW, NOT WHO. HOW, HOW, HOW. I really don't know a simpler way to communicate this elementary concept to you. I do not say there is no God (in this thread.) ToE works quite well assuming there is a God. What I say is, Genesis is not literally true. Are you really unable to understand the difference between these two things?

HOW. NOT WHO, HOW.

You accuse me of being rude but honestly, when I have to say the same thing over and over and over and over, I lose my patience.

So please tell me, do you really not understand what I'm saying? Or are you deliberately twisting it? In another words, once again, are you really really stupid? Or completely dishonest?

Maybe someone else can figure out a way to communicate this simple concept to Danmac?
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So I believe in an orchard and you believe in a tree. Why am I unreasonable when your tree is missing some fruit?
 
Danmac

Danmac

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fantôme profane;2008653 said:
I ask a second time.

Can you point to a post where Autodidact “uses science to say there is no God”?
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If not science what is she using to say there is no God?
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Danmac said:
So I believe in an orchard and you believe in a tree. Why am I unreasonable when your tree is missing some fruit?
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I accept the overwhelming consensus of biologists working in the field. I have actually studies the mountains (literally) of evidence, and understand exactly why it points overwhelmingly to a single origin for all species on earth.

You don't even know how many trees are in your non-existent orchard, or how to tell.

In science, Danmac, all opinions are not equal. Science rigorously applies its method to constantly weed out incorrect hypotheses, and identify only the most correct, robust, well-supported theories. Like evolution.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Danmac said:
If not science what is she using to say there is no God?
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*heroically restrains herself to stay within forum guidelines*

I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M ASSUMING THAT GOD EXISTS AND CREATED EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE.

If you want to discuss atheism or the existence of God, start a thread.

Do you think that modeling bad manners, stubborn stupidity and pig-headed dishonesty speaks well for Christianity?
 
fantome profane

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Danmac said:
If not science what is she using to say there is no God?
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That is an excellent, thoughtful, intelligent question. But it is a question for another thread. I really do seriously and respectful recommend that you start another thread to address that excellent question. But it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
 
Danmac

Danmac

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Autodidact said:
*heroically restrains herself to stay within forum guidelines*

I'M NOT SAYING THAT. I'M ASSUMING THAT GOD EXISTS AND CREATED EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE.

If you want to discuss atheism or the existence of God, start a thread.

Do you think that modeling bad manners, stubborn stupidity and pig-headed dishonesty speaks well for Christianity?
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The way that you speak to Christians doesn't speak much for atheism. Do you have any gaskets left? Are you that angry of a person?
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Danmac said:
The way that you speak to Christians doesn't speak much for atheism. Do you have any gaskets left? Are you that angry of a person?
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No, I'm down to my last nerve, and you're on it. Go back through the thread and count how many times I've made this extremely simple point to you. Here's the OP in full, with emphasis added:

This thread is to discuss the Theory of Evolution. It is NOT about atheism or whether God created all things. In fact, for the purposes of this thread, let's all participants agree that God exists and created all things. The question we are addressing here, and the only question, is whether God created all living creatures and plants on earth in the way set out in the Theory of Evolution (ToE.) Even more, we're going to talk about the evidence for that theory, and why modern Biology accepts it and is based on it.
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It's not Christians or Christianity, Danmac, it you and your behavior. Can you not see why I'm losing my patience? That quote is 50 pages ago, and you've rudely ignored it for 50 pages.

You need to stop, and then apologize for your rudeness. Or, as I say, is it stupidity or dishonesty? Because I am at a loss to explain your behavior otherwise.
 
Danmac

Danmac

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Autodidact said:
I may lose my patience completely. How many times have I asked you to take your obsession with atheism to another thread. It is not relevant to this one, which is about the scientific evidence for the theory of evolution, a subject which has absolutely nothing to do with atheism. I'm beginning to lose interest in figuring out whether you're unable to grasp this concept, or have so little regard for the truth that you don't care. What you're doing is extremely rude, and is the kind of garbage that turns reasonable people away from Christianity. Please stop. If you have nothing to say on the subject of evidence and evolution, kindly get out of the thread. Thank you.
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I am going to say this one time. First you need to stop acting like my mother. It's a bit annoying. Secondly, if you don't try being civil in your posts I will no longer respond to them. If I annoy you hit your ignore button. You have become very annoying.
 
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