The Theory of Evolution is supported by the evidence.

[Danmac]

Do you know how nonsensical that sentence is? Do you really not understand that abiogenesis is not evolution?

Without abiogenisis there is no evolution. Without the sperm and the egg there is no baby. Capish.

It's almost impossible, considering the number of times this had been pointed out to you. So you're doing it on purpose - you're intentionally being dishonest - now that's cheating.

Just because you have no defense doesn't mean I'm cheating.

Hope you're wrong about the heaven/hell thing.

I hope I see you in heaven. I suppose we will have to wait till the time comes to know who is right and who is wrong. Good luck.

 

[Commoner]

Without abiogenisis there is no evolution. Without the sperm and the egg there is no baby. Capish.

False, without abiogenesis, there is evolution. (I must have edited my post just as you were writing your response).

We agree, I hope, that life exists. How it came to be - whether by abiogenesis, god's divine spark, or something else is an interesting question, but is not one the theory of evolution deals with.

Capish?

 

[Danmac]

False, without abiogenesis, there is evolution. (I must have edited my post just as you were writing your response).

We agree, I hope, that life exists. How it came to be - whether by abiogenesis, god's divine spark, or something else is an interesting question, but is not one the theory of evolution deals with.

Capish?

Agreed

 

[Commoner]

Agreed

Well then, what's the problem with discussing evolution?

 

[Danmac]

Well then, what's the problem with discussing evolution?

Tell ya what. You ask the questions and I will answer them. That way if I get off track it will be your fault.

 

[Commoner]

There are already so many questions you have been asked, most recently:

We do not need a theory to explain why all dogs belong to the wolf kind (decent with modification). It is a testable conclusion. We need a theory when we go beyond the wolf. The wolf is one of the trees in my orchard. Man is a separate tree in my orchard.

How would you go about testing it?

So, to go back to one of your many unanswered questions, how many beetle "kinds," 1, 450,000, or something else? How do you know?

 

[Autodidact]

Without abiogenisis there is no evolution.

This is simply false, as I told you already. Let us all agree that God, specifically, Danmac's God, magically poofed the first cell into existence. Everything after that is evolution.

Without the sperm and the egg there is no baby. Capish.

Just because you have no defense doesn't mean I'm cheating.

What do you call it when someone lies, Danmac?

I hope I see you in heaven. I suppose we will have to wait till the time comes to know who is right and who is wrong. Good luck.

You might have to wait. The rest of us use this little thing we call science.

 

[Autodidact]

Tell ya what. You ask the questions and I will answer them. That way if I get off track it will be your fault.

How about you start by answering all the ones you've already been asked? Here's my pick:

How many beetle kinds are there, 1, 450,000, or something else? How do you know?

 

[Danmac]

There are already so many questions you have been asked, most recently:

Reproductive isolation. Now we know that species can lose genetic information and as a result they can be reproductively isolated from their parent kind. That is because information is lost thru natural selection. We can use the same scientific process that determined that the wolf is the parent kind of all dogs to determine other parent kinds and there various offspring species.

 

[Danmac]

This is simply false, as I told you already. Let us all agree that God, specifically, Danmac's God, magically poofed the first cell into existence. Everything after that is evolution.

Auto, you have just described my belief. You did mean microevolution I hope.

 

[Tristesse]

Auto, you have just described my belief. You did mean microevolution I hope.

Well, I don't know what microevolution is. But from your response it sounds like you accept the theory of evolution.

 

[The_Evelyonian]

Well, I don't know what microevolution is. But from your response it sounds like you accept the theory of evolution.

Microevolution = Changes within a species.

Macroevolution = Changes from one species to another.

 

[Commoner]

Reproductive isolation. Now we know that species can lose genetic information and as a result they can be reproductively isolated from their parent kind. That is because information is lost thru natural selection. We can use the same scientific process that determined that the wolf is the parent kind of all dogs to determine other parent kinds and there various offspring species.

Read your post back and tell me, honestly, do you think that it answered the question(s)?

What you've attempted to do was to answer how we would go about establishing different kinds - but you have yet to even decide what a "kind" is. That's like me saying we can use the same process that we used to determine books are the same noodle as magazines, to determine other kinds of noodles. Do you see why I can't use your answer at all?

What is a "kind"?

 

[Commoner]

Microevolution = Changes within a species.

Macroevolution = Changes from one species to another.

also...

Different species = arbitrary/not same in biology and genetics

 

[Tristesse]

Microevolution = Changes within a species.

Macroevolution = Changes from one species to another.

I was being a bit coy. I know what it is, but I don't really accept that term as valid.

 

[The_Evelyonian]

I was being a bit coy. I know what it is, but I don't really accept that term as valid.

Ah, sorry about that. It's difficult to tell the sarcastic comments from the real thing

 

[Autodidact]

Reproductive isolation. Now we know that species can lose genetic information and as a result they can be reproductively isolated from their parent kind. That is because information is lost thru natural selection. We can use the same scientific process that determined that the wolf is the parent kind of all dogs to determine other parent kinds and there various offspring species.

I'm sorry to say I have no idea what you're trying to say here. Try some complete English sentences with meaningful terms that you understand. You really can't have a scientific conversation without defining your terms. To begin with, you can't define "kind," so you can't use that term. Now, do you by chance have any idea what you mean by "information?"

Why would "losing information" cause the wolf to evolve into the fox and the hyena? That just makes no sense. What is this "information" that is supposedly "lost" and how?

 

[Autodidact]

Auto, you have just described my belief. You did mean microevolution I hope.

No, I meant the Theory of Evolution. Are you familiar with it?

 

[Danmac]

Well, I don't know what microevolution is. But from your response it sounds like you accept the theory of evolution.

Some aspects of it as I have already stated. I'm a cherry picker.

 

[Danmac]

No, I meant the Theory of Evolution. Are you familiar with it?

I'm stuck on abiogenesis right now.